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Man this bravo special makes me miss the perfection of OC two seasons ago. It was my favorite season along with this season of ATL and BH s2/3

Absolutely. I'm not saying any of them don't. I'm saying Lisa does and acts like she doesn't. And her fans act like she's so above them. She's not. She's on this show and is on the same level as most of them. She does take digs, major digs, at Brandi and Kyle. She trashes Kyle then gets offended when they do it to her.

I do t think she's this awful, evil person. But I do think she believes she's better than people, she talks down to people, she insults them as a joke, makes digs and denies all of this and believes she's just the sweetest most kind person ever. It's hard to be around people like that because they are not awful and evil so they can play innocent.

Also the pa spilling the tea on nene seam ktogakly true and what many have speculated about. As for why he didn't name his own name, of course he didn't. That would be stupid of him to do. I wish there were just lexis clips lol

Oh my so much conversation to catch up on! I'll try later. I love lexis and I almost wanna watch I dream of nene for more of her. Was she on a lot? There's been none. That's the main issue. Is she the first one to appear on another wives?

No idea. Also they announced another special- "Bravo's Top Ten Vacations" Premiering Wednesday, February 19 at 9pm ET/PT

All of the RHOBH ladies are in lady gagas new music video. They filmed it after the reunion.

It wasnt desperate. After all the [!@#$%^&*] Lisa talked, the supposed hurt feelings, the "betryal", etc to then throw a joint party and act as if shes besties with Kyle and act as if shes offended she wasnt invited to Yolandas husbands daughters wedding, i think Yolanda was more than on point.

There's a special RHONY preview tomorrow night There's a special RHONY preview tomorrow night

Stassi is the best. Her plots, her lines, her commentary, her story. There would literally be no show without her this season.

PRAISE ERIC FOR SEEING THE LIGHT. LONG LIVE KANDI. DOWN WITH NENE! In the new RHONY promo it looks like Ramona throws wine in the new girls face! Wow.

Peter calls her ass out on acting like a brat at a chair yet event. She don't like it because your never allowed to call her out on her behavior so she gets loud to try and win like she always does. I've been to a lot of charity events and hosted quite a few myself. I've never seen anyone act up and cause a scene that was justified. Let alone by nenes justification that Kenya was lucky not to get her ass beat for dating to stand up when she was under attack.

Peter calls her ass out on acting like a brat at a chair yet event. She don't like it because your never allowed to call her out on her behavior so she gets loud to try and win like she always does.

Nene showing hat an immature brat she is. Shocking, not. I'm pretty excited to see her and papa smurf go at it cuz they are both such awful people and I can't wait to see how Cynthia deals with this. She's been showing her ass all season.

Carlton's blog was a bore. Lisa's blog was a pity party. Yolanda's blog as always was perfection. As for ATL nene and Cynthia's blobs were desperate to make themselves innocent while Kenya's blog slayed. I wish more of the atl ladies blogged.

Fay wasn't asked back. That's the party line she's been spreading to try and look good. If they we anted her her ass would be there. And y'all want her back but call Brandi trash? LOL. I agree. Production is at the base of everything that happens basically. But to BL,are it as an excuse for what you do when you do have a choice is weak. If Lisa really didn't want tot do it it wouldn't have been done. Period.

I do shared about VPR. It could easily be a new HILLS. A lomg running show with real media attention. The problem is these kids were only contracted to two seasons and their main star isn't returning. Stassi is somehow a Kristen and a Lauren wrapped into one. But I think watching these young adults struggle with their messy personal lives while trying to live the dream in Beverly Hills and failing at it is oddly endearing to a lot of people. BH is having a bad season and it's all due to not having a real story to follow, even one that's leads Into another for a string of stories through the season and the cast just not working. ATL was atrocious last year and great this year with the exact same cast. Sometimes an off season just happens. BH Suffers from too much cast turnover too quickly tho. I feel like 4 seasons in and we have had a total of 14 wives somehow.

Production isn't a valid excuse. Because if we allow it to be, again, discussing anything is pointless. Nobody is ever to blame nor credit for anything. Ever. It's all production. It's a cowerdly move to go to production and shift blame. Because they signed up for this show. They choose to be on it. They choose to go along with production. This is a reflection of them and to use production as a scape goat is weak. I don't think anyone is saying Lisa is the worst person ever and just evil. I also think we all are wise enough to know that the judgements made against any of these women are show related. Lisa for example, I do not personally know to judge. However I absolutely will judge her - good and bad - on these shows. Even going for someone who does seem legit awful IRL like Nene, I don't know her actual self, her real life. But I do know the character she puts out there on the show. Brandi nor sisters Richards have turned me against Lisa. Lisa sure has though. Her personality is not one I could handle for a long period of time. The digs, the better than you attitude, the smothering, the [!@#$%^&*] talking then acting as if you are best friends, etc. and that's just on RHOBH - VR offers other issues I'd have with her. I'd rather a messy embarrassing friend like Brandi or a so blunt il hurt your feelings friend like Yolanda over a Lisa. But I'd take Lisa over a Kyle, Kim, Joyce, Adrinne, Taylor, Faye, Pam etc anyday. Because Lisa isn't evil. She can be very sweet and nurturing and will likely spoil the [!@#$%^&*] out of you when your on her good side. I do share about their being a direct connection between BH failing and VR thriving. I also disagree about Lisa obvious enjoying VR more. She seems bothered to be there honestly. And her scenes add little to nothing of value of the show. VR is thriving because it, unlike BH, had a season long arc with a begin, middle and end. More than that tho it has an actual storyline where BH has a bunch of misunderstandings and a story about a not so sober recovering addicts dog. It also has a cast that just fits together and can play well off each other. Lisa and Bravo should be terrified of s3 failing tho without its central character, star, and storyline driver Stassi. She basically singlehandedly made this show a hit this season with her plots, her commentary and relationships. I think Brandi feels used by Lisa and that's the issue. And I think she's extra ly justified in feeling that way.

If we are going to allow production for a valid excuse then there's no point in discussing anything. Because no matter what they can use the weak production made me do it excuse. Valid or not. Even if she did object, and I doubt it because she's used Brandi for scheme as story on pump rules, did they really force her to push Brandi to talk to her? What if she had refused?

You guys I'm so offended at you all. I can't believe I poured my heart out telling you I'm not good with words and expo along myself and none y'all bitches defended me to myself lol. /real housewife pitty party rant Lol. I'm legit totally kidding. And I love this thread and all of you.

His masculinity or femininity isn't relevant tho.

The difference is he calls himself that. And it isn't said in a mean, deminish sing way. I am gay. I never have referred to msy elf as miss anything. And if anyone does I do take it as a direct attack on me being gay. I'm not one of the girls. I am a man. Period. He point would have gotten across if she called him mr, IMO. She choose miss for a reason and it was an attack. The same for queen. She didn't say what a fab queen he is. Now I don't know Brandon. I don't know a lot about him. But I've never seen him refer to himself as miss. But even if she had said this about Lawrence, the way she said it, I'd feel the same.

You can not be homophobic and say homophobic things. Nene is not homophobic. However she did attack Brandon based on his sexuality. She used his sexuality against him. To deminish him and attack him. That is homophobic. She did this because she needs to make herself look good and because she needs to spin what happened. You can not be racist and say racist things. Much like the Brandi/Joyce issue from BH. It is a weird line and I wish I was better at explaining it but I'm not. I'm really not good with words and oddly scared of offending people when talking about stuff like this.

Bless this post. Nene outright is lying and it's painfully obvious. She's doing it because it doesn't fit her narrative to admit the truth and she looks bad. She's always controlled the narrative on this show and this is the first time that girl is being called out on her doing and it's glorious.

You can keep pointing out who said the word charged and I can keep pouting you to people who say it wasn't. Kandi and Todd saying charged doesn't make it so. Neither do you nor nene. Just like me saying she didn't doesn't make it so. It's all perception. I will say he nene who I hate done the same thing Kenya did I still wouldn't say it was charged. But would your view change? And yes the men are getting a free pass. Defending their actions is the same as justifying it IMO. You say none of this would have happened if Kenya hadn't gotten up. Why is the line there that was crossed and not when Christopher grabbed her? Why not when nene set the tone to promote a violent gathering? Why not Cynthia for telling gossip? Etc.