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Here's my rest if thoughts on the episode. Sorry it's kinda scattered and all over. I had to rewatch the end again. Ken is seriously worse than Simon. Oh Lisa is so [!@#$%^&*] pathetic. She wants to invade on Mauricio and Ken talking then be annoyed when others do? Why can't either one of them discuss issues with people one on one? Well Brandi is being over the top, the core issue here for Lisa using Brandi to generate story for her show by using Scheena is legit. Lisa said she knows. That just show she doesn't care. Lisa says she's not her friend then defends her? Go Yolanda! Finally someone tells ken to get out. One day her husband might come? Sorry he has a job. How dare he put her hands on a woman. Finally Lisa is actually appalled by something he does if even for a second. Once again when things are actually being discussed ken makes a huge issue and ruins it. Carlton, I enjoyed her a lot. Bye. Kim girl bye bye bye. Please be gone! I hope Jouce doesn't return but I'm pretty sure she will. It would be great is Lisa didn't return cuz then no ken! His thirsty ass will be all over the reunion ruining it. Brandi's line at the end was great about there being so much love and that's why everyone is hurt. Loved the Segway into the reunion.

Lisa is tired of talking about it? But she hasn't talked about it with anyone but ken... Yolanda is right. When friends have an issue it should be able to be discussed and you shouldn't minimize or dismiss your friends thoughts. That is some fake ass [!@#$%^&*]. Kyles line Bout not being nervous to see Lisa but Lisa being so and how it getting ugly was in Lisa's hands? Perfection. Now Lisa wants to being up her leaving but once again doesn't wanna talk about it. Oh and here is Lisa's bitch, ken. Causing a scene, putting his hands on people, being totally inappropriate and encouraged by his owner. How pathetic. I still don't like Joyce but it's nice she spoke up for Kim against the bitches pathetic further attacks on her. Kim apologized and he couldn't? She's right, there we have it. Oh carlton, I love you girl but your attempt at a return by siding with Lisa because she's against everyone else is amusing. She is mad for Lisa. Brandi "did she remind you of what you remember?" DEAD. Brandi telling truths again about Lisa running to carlton in need if an ally. Now Lisa is saying Brandi and Yolanda are liars, well they were your best friends so what does that mean about you Hun? Oh right, poor innocent victim. Lisa trying to make herself into a victim again and trying to avoid the issue by walking away. Her act is tired and predictable now. This party is where the daytime Emmy after party is FYI. Great location. Oh, hi drew.

Exactly. Lisa Yolanda all of them are on the same level. As for Joyce pegged Yolanda as a liar, um Lisa lied multiple times in the lady episode so I guess everything she says and does it out the window.

All of these girls are trying their most at this reunion. It's gonna be messy and I can't wait. Yolanda is no different today than day one. Y'all just mad she's speaking truth on Lisa now. Carlton Joyce and Kim all still need to go. Let's not forget Lisa cheered her on during her take down of adrinne. She stood by her, helped her and encouraged it. Karma.

She was added in. She's not in any of the bts photos from anyone including hair/makeup. She looks TERRIBLE

The only reason to watch that [!@#$%^&*] show tbh I wonder if bravo is mad at her like they were Luann It's sad that Tamra/Vicki got their way. One of them needed to go over Gretchen tbh.

Sonja, Melissa and Vicki represent the three returning series. Lisa is likely there cuz she has two shows and RULES did huge this season. Or hopefully it's them phasing nene out.

For someone who's irrelevant you sure can't stop talking about her lol

He big difference between ken defending Brandi last season and what he did this season is that Brandi was being attacked by men and no men were attacking Lisa this year. Can't wait for all the carlton love now lmfao.

Boring but nice episode. I honestly don't have much more to say. Brandi buying her parents a car was sweet. Yolanda and Gigi were great. It was nice to see the girls get along and interact with their families. Can't wait for her to go off on ken again who can't seem to help himself from getting involved and causing a scene. Shocker.

CC/SMG issues and DG's love of Cordy lead to her going to angel. I've heard and believe that JW wasn't happy with Cordy/angel and when he got involved in direction/story of angel more he wanted it to end. Her exit was basically at his hands. And yeah her come back was cuz joss thought Sarah would come back for the episode but she refused as she was beyond Buffy so CC came in and knocked it out of the park, like always.

I think there is story there. It's just we are only now getting to it. This last episode has been the most talked about of the season and with good reason. Stuff actually happened. And once again ill point to ATL. Last season was awful and boring. This season has been insane. With the exact same cast.

Please. She wasn't ganged up nor was it four on one even if that was so. Kyle nor Kim attacked her in that situation. I don't think Kim even said anything and Kyle said maybe a few words. Being confronted about being a shitty friend isn't being attacked. She ran away and cried because she knew her lies were being exposed. If there was a gang up and attack why didn't anybody do it on the bus when Brandi and Lisa got into it? Oh that's right because it wasn't about them and kens bitch ass didn't drag them into it. As for their mutual friends, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there's more than a few. They both knew adrinne, they have been in the sane show for years now, that sur staff is a gossiping bunch and Lisa isn't exactly friends with the most exclusive glam crowd to ever walk the planet despite what she's desperate for us to believe. You really can't turn people against someone unless they give you the ammo. Poor innocent victim Lisa has done her fair share of plotting, [!@#$%^&*] talking and take downs herself. Hell isn't that how she and Brandi became friends?! Ahh the good in comparison argument. Sure. Same trash, different front. That's all it is. Lisa blown through a great amount of friends in a short amount of time and I think blaming it al on bitter jealousy is an easy out. She's not evil. She's not the worst person ever. And she may come off the best in comparison but that doesn't mean she's in the right or innocent or that she hasn't given them cause for issues with her. She does a great game of selling herself I'll give her that.

I loved the second opening. And the first.

Please. Yolanda is honest and blunt and was about Lisa. It's a fact that Lisa doesn't reposed well to criticism. She wasn't spreading gossip and lies she was stating a fact about her friend. That's not [!@#$%^&*] talking like Kim and Kyle tried to make it. I'm sure Yolanda is seething with jealousy over the erection of Ken and Lisa lol. You make it sound like ken said that's enough let's go Lisa. He didn't. He got loud first. He attacked. He shouted over other people demanding answers and ignoring those answers. He was being a bitch point blank. He is the one that attacked that table like a hyena. I'm pretty sure you've called out other husbands who have done far less. Yup. I actually think mo and Kyle were oddly calm. They wanted answers and are the kens with the right to be upset. Brandi was totally calm and straightforward. Ken set Yolanda and Kim off.

I just don't think they I'll cut three wives and I want Kim gone so I'll keep Joyce. Spot on about Yolanda. Her issue with Lisa is Lisa is being a shitty friend and she's seeing Lisa be a shitty friend to their mutual friend and being friendly with a woman she's don't nothing but trash for years. Why is this hard to understand? Yeah Ken wasnt defending his wife he was attacking others and being a bitch because Lisa couldn't talk herself out of this one. Spot on about Lisa/adrinne.

Not showing up, being a fake friend, not being able to have a real conversation with her, seeing how she trusts her other friends, treating her like a Hollywood friend. Kim should apologize to ken cuz she shouldn't have snapped. But Ken should also apologize her abd Yolanda but he won't. He's gotta cover for his wife while she's being exposed and showing what a liar she is. I don't like Joyce but I agree she should return. Def over Kim.

Yes Lisa so jealous and hateful of Lisa for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than her jealousy of "picking" Mohammed over her... Come on. Radar is reporting Lisa and Yolanda want Mohammed fiancé on next season. I totally buy it. And I'd welcome her. Cue the Yolanda isn't in on it and is jealous and terrified of her "perfect" relationship wi moahmemd being exposed as a fraud. Lol.

Please. She forgave Kyle. If it works for her story Lisa will be besties with Brandi. She's all about the fame, the attention, the story. It's why she's a housewife. Like all of them. Exactly. Lisa has given as good as she's given she's just good at playing the poor me game. Your spot on Bout her. Or a Teresa, Nene, Kim, Joanna, Gretchen, Tamra, heather, Lisa, Brandi, Kyle, alex, Bethanny, etc...

I think he was board, certainly. But he was damaged and scared of being in love and vulnerable fully so he let justin have pieces of him. He loved justin. He cared for him after the bashing, was hurt when he left him for the piano player, and I think we saw Brian reluctantly confirm to much of a "breeder" life he hated. He gave justin keys, he let justin top him handing over some control, he gave justin all the love he could give him and played by the rules set forth by Justin. I think with his boredom they addressed it by his almost moving to NYC but then not getting the job and starting his own firm. He also was there for ted when none of his other friends were for various reasons. Then there's him literally buying the farm for Justin, and his pushing justin away to push justin forward in life. His methods were not always the best, but I think to those he loved and loved him they got him. I think he had passion but was consistently at war with himself. I think Brian was a very complicated and layered person. Characters like Mel Justin and Michael understood it and accepted it. People like Ben Linds and Debbie had to accept it he ages the ones they loved loved him so much.

I think Joyce will likely be back. Carlton and Kim are out. If they only vibe one new wife Joyce will stay. If they find two she will go and BH will have 5. I don't think one of Lisa/Kyle/brandi/Yolanda needs to go. At all. They are the most popular, interesting and relevant. As for this apology Lisa made to Kyle... Where was that? Lisa refused to discuss any harm she caused and ended the conversation.

You may not being she's a victim directly, but it is what you are. Along her out to be. As if she doesn't deserve this. As if she didn't cause it. As if she's done nothing wrong. As if it's just the entire show is jealous haters grasping at anything to bring her down and attack her and all she could do was cry and walk away because if the intesen gang attack on her. Yes Lisa calling Kyle not Brandi, Lisa throwing a party with Kyle, Lisa being close with Scheena feels very petty but I don't think those are the real issues here. You have to go deeper. It's about her being phony. About not being there. About being close out of nowhere to a woman that she's trashed and dragged through the media. About lying about many things. About being dismissive and elitist. I don't think cobbling together ammo would make two friends feel as if she's distanced herself and is being fake. I don't think Yolanda or Brandi set out to ruin her and make her the most evil bitch to ever bitch. I think she hurt them and then brushed their issues off. Brandi isn't innocent here. She should have taken Lisa aside herself but at the same time, look at how Lisa did deal when two friends did tht recently. Yolanda and Kyle. Walked away. Crushed it off. Refused to deal with it. As for Ken, like I said before, did you expect him to sit back and let Lisa take it by herself? His first instinct was to defend his wife. He wasn't out of line in calling out Kim for not bothering to turn up to Pandora's wedding (moving, my eye!). He prob shouldn't have called Yolanda stupid, but belittling all the women? Yeah, no. Mauricio would have done the same -- in fact he has, when drunken Kim shouted at Kyle in Hawaii. There's a way to defend someone without shouting and name calling. That's not defending anyone. He was the first to yell. He is the one who went on the attack. He is the ken that turned that into a fight. He kept screaming for Brandi to answer the question when she had many times. Yes no has has done it too and I've called him out on it for being wrong too. I honestly don't know how to respond to this. Lol good cuz your stuck with me! And of course it's not personal.

Here's why I do t feel bad for Lisa, aside from all her lies cat hunch up with her and it being her own fault, she had the opportunity to discuss issues. Kyle came to her to finally a dress the pain caused by both if them and she was brushed off. Yolanda took her aside and Brandi joined them and Lisa deflected, denied and stroked off like a little girl in over her head. Brandi came for her absolutely. Telling Kyle was effed up, but it's what people do when they feel betrayed. Brandi was feeling used and abandoned by her friend so she set out to her and did so by telling Kyle the truth about Lisa. You can call rando trashbox and blame her want all you want for this to absolve the great poor innocent victimized Lisa, but I think that's reaching. Lisa constantly says things are over and people have moved in them brings up the past to discredit them. She deflects and talks circles whenever she's confronted. She's not a smart strong woman. She's the same piece of trash all these people who sign up for reality shows are. She's a victim playing pot stirrer just like Kyle. She's a vindictive bitch just like Brandi is. And that's whee Lisa made her mistake, she underestimated both of them. She watched r a id ruin Adrinnes life. Cheered it on more than less. Brandi used secrets adrinne told her against her and Lisa stupidly decided she'd befriend Brandi and then cut her out. So Brandi did what Brandi does. Lisa walked away from this because she couldn't outwit them all when they had compared notes. She couldn't pit one against the other. She had no play so she bolted. It's typically what liars will do when caught. I don't think Lisa is as lose to Scheena as Brandi is thinking she is, but I don't blame Brandi for thinking that at all. When a friend pulls away from you when your having a hard time it's pause for concern. When you realize your friend is closer to someone than they led you to believe and becoming friends with someone's who's character they TRASHED it's even more cause for questions. I do believe that Lisa cared for and loved Brandi, you could feel it when she told Brandi that, and I think Brandi is coming from a place of anger and hurt and that's why Yolanda tried to get Lisa to see what was happening and deal with if, but she shifted blame, deflected and walked off instead of dealing with the issue like a real friend should. As for the tabloids, her story changed so many times in one day it's hard to tell. Of course Brandi could be lying but I doubt it. And I doubt it because of Lisa. Because of her actions. Because of her reactions. She looked scared that the truth was coming out and hurt that Brandi would out her, not upset and angry about the accusation. Kyle is defiantly coming off better than most. Good for her for playing the game correctly for once. And ken? Just disgusting. He was beyind M yelling at Brandi, Boyce's husband acting a like a bitch, and Paul being all up in the drama bad. It was defending his wife. It was attacking, yelling and name calling board line shaming women who were not doing any of that to he or his wife. He's the one that started yelling and turned that ugly and him alone. I loved seeing an actual strong woman like Yolanda come back at him. I honestly would have loved Kim going back at him had it been anyone else lol. Lisa exit? I doubt it. She is as desperate for the spotlight as the rest are. I think there is two more episodes.

I finally have time to post my full thoughts. The confrontation on the beach: Lisa didn't deny a lot of what she was accused of. I agree with Yolanda about how if Lisa dies t feel that way about Kyle and mo after attacking them multiple times that she should have shared that. She was determined to make sure and attack their character and now she's friendly with them. It's weird. She claims they had a conversation about it but we saw her dodge it and Kyle confirm they didn't get anywhere in that talk. Lie. She didn't tell Brandi that she did call her, she asked when the last time Brandi called her was. Brandi stated recently and previously left messages. Lisa isn't answering or calling back. And yes throwing a party for yours and kyles husbands is a sign of being close. It's a Shane Lisa isn't a strong enough person to have a discussion and hash out real issues. That's the sign of a fake friend. So she just takes off. Then she accuses of it being five on one? Bitch please. First if all there were 4 at most, and I'm pretty sure only two confronted you. Then ken attacks Yolanda? He's becoming such a simon, desperate for a spot as a wife. Sit your ass down old man - Yolanda didn't come for him and he wasn't defending his wife because she wasn't being attacked the. I feel bad for Mo. And yes I totally believe Brandi here. Absolutely. Again she didn't really deny it. Lol at Kim stirring the pot desperate to secure her job. Bye bitch! Lisa whole I am so innocent, this is all a lie, poor innocent me act is gross but she's good at it. Yes ken, no does believe it because Lisa has attacked his character before. Boyce: I just don't care. It's sad, I feel for her and her family, but I'm just not invested in her. The bus: the Scheena issue was always bound to boil over. Once again Lisa just turns things around, deflects the issue, etc. go Brandi honestly. She caught her in a lie and Lisa's dog ken goes on the attack again. A trend? Yup. I totally believe Scheena was there via Lisa because that's her daughters close friend of five years and because the photos of her there she's in the friends/family section. Of course it's possible she was there via someone else but it's unlikely and Lisa was caught in the lie about her even being there. The dinner: Kyle asked the question point blank and she didn't answer. Of course ken butts in before Lisa even speaks. Lisa says she didn't see the tabloids and is caught in another lie. Ken taking this up to levels it doesn't need to go to and name calling women. Gross. It is unacceptable that he's shouting and name calling but Lisa sure doesn't mind cuz she can't answer a question. As evident by Brandi pointing out that she saw it and Lisa trying desperately to point out she didn't pack it, she didn't bring it. Ken demanding Brandi answer when she has but his old yelling ass wouldn't listen. Kim vs ken was stupid and they were both in the wrong. So ken and Lisa storm off. Bye! I bet they will all get along now without her.. There was no ambush, there was a discussion that Ken turned into a fight. Once again Lisa is playing innocent as if she's never said a bad thing about anyone on this show. Lie. Again. So she just leaves so she doesn't have to deal with it. That's what liars do when everyone who've theyvd lied go and about compare stories and get to the truth. The problem between Lisa and Kyle is quite simple. At their core, they are the same person. And Lisa and Brandi came together to take down adrinne and that should have warned both about who the other really is... There's a difference between not wanting to be mothered by a friend and not wanting to be friends.

The BH Blogs > the show. Brandi's was good. She owned some [!@#$%^&*] she dud and was wrong about and I was kinda surprised actually. Kim's was also rather good and she made some valid points. Lisa's was a poor me, I'm innocent, Ken was attacked, I don't know Brandi or Scheena. Lol. Joyce's was clearly Angelina for next season to be Lisa's friend, Patheticly transparent but good on her esp cuz it seems she and Kyle have fallen out. Then there is Yolanda's. The perfection. The honesty. The slaying! Yesss. Kim makes a great point as some of us have noted, Lisa was ver deflecting and not directly answering the question- "I do believe Brandi, she is my friend, and I have no reason not to. After watching the episode I noticed that Lisa kept saying "Just leave it alone," and "Let's drop it." However, if it were me I would want to get to the bottom of it so everyone knew the truth. It just seems very fishy that she reacted this way. At dinner that night there was tension and it was quite at the beginning. Then when my sister confronted Lisa and Brandi the whole table turned upside down. . . like a circus! All my sister wanted was a simple yes or no. But at this point Lisa kept talking in circles about who bought them, who saw them, and when she first saw them. I couldn't handle everyone yelling across at each other so I finally jumped in and said, "Just answer the question!"" Brandi best part- "I understand Ken defending his wife when no one else at the table, but I don't agree with the way he talked to Yolanda (who looked amazing in her bathing suit btw)." Yolanda speaking some truth- "Ken defending Lisa is natural -- I just felt it to be unfair for Ken to speak for Lisa. Ken always told Paul, Mauricio, and others not to get involved in the girls' issues and now he is doing it himself. We, the girls, choose to be in this group and only we should take responsibility for our actions and the friendships between us. It's hard to see everyone's point-of-view but we must share for the sake of moving on. Kyle has a five-year relationship with Lisa with many unresolved issues. The magazine was only a small part of that. Brandi and Lisa were best friends way before I joined the group, which I dont know anything about, but I did witness the overnight change in their friendship. I know Lisa saw the tabloid at Brandi's house but I did not see her put the tabloid in the suitcase. . . This whole conversation has gone off topic for me personally. I can only speak for myself when I say that my issues with Lisa over the past year have nothing to do with anyone in this group. I thought Lisa was my friend, and I believe my friendships with women to be about sharing! Some of you speak about jealousy, but trust me it is not part of this equation at all. There is nothing that Lisa is or has that I want. I cheer for her successes and always compliment her greatness -- but that does not mean that I don't have an opinion. If Ken had given me the opportunity to speak at the table before lumping me in with the three other women and before he called me "stupid," I would have said that I saw the magazine in question at Brandi's house -- but I never saw Lisa put it in the suitcase. Ken did not want Kim to speak for Brandi, but he spoke for Lisa even though the truth is that neither one was there."