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Lisa clearly is closer with Scheena than most of the VPR cast. She has admitted to hating Kristen so being on the show is irrelevant. Brandi has said she doesn't expect her to be fired and I believe that. But I think that for years Lisa downplayed the nature of her relationship with Scheena and it's come out that they were closer than she let on. It doesn't make them besties, but it's clearly more than Lisa out out there. Be it because she likes her or she's suddenly pandoraa best friend whatever. The fact that Lisa did keep them seperated even after the sit down talk IMO is a perfect example of Lisa knowing that that convo was utter bullshit just to launch VPR. Brandi may be being overly paranoid, but when you think someone has one type of relationship with a person and then it turns out they have another, it's cause for question IMO. Exactly. Yeah a like fifth viewing rerun, with no promotion. I doubt they are even looking at that rating.

Your right. But she has implied abd outright said she isn't a friend, that she diesnt know her, that she knows nothing about her, that she's just an employee, etc. she def downplayed their actual friendship or is lying about it now. She made it a point of saying she doesn't hate Scheena like she does Kristen but she's also has defended her this season and stopped that nonsense at the reunion here. I think Brandi's issue of Lisa using her to generate story/buzz for VOR/Scheena is valid. ESP after Brandi did it to please her and help her friend out but then asked her to stop it abd Lisa refused. It's understandable she'd feel betrayed if Lisa downplayed her relationship with this girl, then distanced herself as seemingly getting closer/revealing a closer relationship with the girl esp since Brandi's best friend did this with Leeann. I also absolutely think if Ken cheated on Lisa and Brandi ever spoke to her let alone was friendly with her Lisa would freak out. Yes to kyles lips! Between those, Lisa's atrocious hair and Joyce's dress there were a lot of distractions.

Lisa brought up the past many times both during the season and on the reunion. Kyles problem is she and Lisa never actually dealt with the past and moved on. Lisa just says to do so the. Brings it up herself but then tells Kyle it's over. So Brandi thought ken would side with her and have her back? I don't thinks he thought anything that you wrote and I'm not sure where that impression came from. Brandi knows the audience is on Lisa's side here. I think that she finally got herself together and was able to say what was wrong and tried to address it and Lisa was very responsive because they truly care about each other. Kenya may drive it but nene is the name on the show like Vicki Ramona Teresa and Lisa. Not Kenya. I love Kenya and believe the show can move on without nene just like BH could without Lisa. And yes if the audience doesn't care about the wives at all, not even in I hate them way then time shouldn't be wasted on them.

Yes to all of this.

I think Kyle gave very specific and pointed examples and all Lisa did was try to ignore them and talk about how sets moved on then she herself brought up the past. I think that Ken wasn't ready to see Brandi actually be real. I think everyone thought she'd put on her I hate Lisa act abd while she stood her ground, she was also real, honest and emotional and it got to them. They love her abd care for her and I think it's obvious and I feel for all three. You put Kenya on ATL but before this season it would've been nene. Teresa has been the main reason nj has sucked and Aviva? Lol. I think Andy was only dismissive of carlton and Joyce trying to grab airtime because he knows nobody cares about them and good on him for it.

I'm so sorry my thoughts on it are wrong. What would I do without you? Poor innocent victimized and bullied Lisa.

I thought 1 was really solid. 2 sucked for the most part. 3 delivered.

Kyle EVICERATED Lisa. Like damn. She was so on point and honest abd didn't let Lisa lie herself out of it. I loved how she pointed out that Lisa demands that everyone drop the past but then she holds it herself. Brandi and Lisa have a ver real friendship issue. It's sad. Loved Andy shutting carlton and Joyce down. It's so clear that carlton is just sitting 2 cuz Lisa demanded it cuz she's irrelevant and Andy doesn't care what she says at all. I also loved Yolanda calling Joyce that one behind me lmao. I don't believe for a second that Lisa didn't know Scheena slept with Eddie. She's smart and a business person and that drama was how the show was launched. Perhaps production told her, but she knew. Lisa says Scheena isn't a friend to her but she sure is desperate to defend her abd build her up. I do think Lisa's apology to Brandi is a rare sincere moment. But then Lisa says that she hates Kristen making it clear she doesn't hate Scheena like she tries to play it up as such now. This is actually heartbreaking. I think Brandi and Lisa truly love each other but have real deep issues and I'm not sure where they go from here. The show both brought them tigfryger abd tear them apart. In an ideal world a Lisa/Brandi/Kyle trinity of perfection would dominate but there's too much hurt abd pain and even love there. Oh the husbands. Ugh. I love that the David's are not here. They support their wives but don't want the spotlight. The highlight reel really just made me realize I'm totally correct in my dislike of Lisa's bitch. Not here for Joyce's husband attacking Carlton's religion. Lisa's hair abd Joyce's dress are just so bad they are distracting. There is a way to defend your wife abd stand up for her without attacking women to do so. It's not hard to understand. There is far more love than hate between Brandi and Lisa/Ken. Her line about it not being nice to be dropped abd needing someone to stick around was so sad. I told y'all not to count out the Lisa/Brandi dynamic. Most did and swore Lisa was so above her it beyond repair. Yeah, nope. Part 3 was the best IMO. Good for her. Keep your hands to yourself. My 4 year old understands that. Press those charges. Brandon should have pressed charges against appolo. This weeks RHOA wasn't exciting but I didn't find it boring. It needs episodes like this to balance out all the high drama IMO. I liked oorscha going out and kandis work life. Cynthia is weak.

Yeah I honestly don't believe it's a sure thing wpldnt be surprised at all if it didn't happen. Cast members may be in talks with a production company but that dies t mean the network has picked it up actually. I think they are casting a married to medicine LA. I know there was a casting call for a housewives like series looking for wives if doctors and surgeons like two months ago.

Nene ain't leaving Abd if she did, bye!

Is Miami confirmed?

I think the 1.4mil is solid for bravo. It might come back at the cost of losing one of the vets, to cut down on cost, and likely a shorter production sch. But if it ain't below 1.0 it'll return.

People have said heather is trying hard to be "street" with her holla in the openings and party with diddy people, but I don't think it's a front.

Yup. All nene has accomplished in trying to ruin Kenya is making her the center of the show.

Justifications and excuses. She beat her down. You wanna see it cuz you hate Kenya. Period. Own it. There's nothing wring with it. I love basket ball wives and a huge part of it is they get physical with each other. This season of real wold has been great cuz they get into legit fights. That said I can't think of one wife hitting another I'd be very down to see tho. That sounds more likely, and exactly like what we will see, but I do believe there was likely a slap/hit/hair pull involved.

I believe about 15% of that lol. Media take out is reliable for actual stuff that happens but not so much the details.

You need to define "shot to stardom" Nene is housewife famous. That's it. And yes they both left and the show did fine. It will if nene leaves too. Last season revolved 90% around her. "I don't condone violence but.." Is condoning violence boo. It's fine if you wanna see Kenya get a beat down. But own it.

I think there was a physical altercation but not a full on beat down. Radar tends to go to 100 when the truth is at a 10. If it's a minor physical thing it'll likely be aired and won't affect her coming back. If it's major it likely won't be aired and she's gone. The only I real physical violence they've shown has been between the two joes, neither of whom are under contract by bravo. Hair pulling, a little cat fighting, some wine throwing is one thing and the women doing it are usually shown to be being redic.

Nenes truly horrific hair has killed any I'd her decent looks

Lol. Brandi was a lock for s3 after that s2 reunion. On her own.

I just love RHONY Kristen. I can't wait to see her with Yolanda and Brandi.

Yup. And idl why ppl act like Yolanda is blind to Brandi. She isn't. She's called her on her [!@#$%^&*]. Both have said that to has real talks with her. In fact I think Yolanda's ability to be a real friend and confront Brandi on her behavior without coming off as judgmental or mothering likely lead her to realize how Lisa treats her. Yolanda and Brandi have had their issues. Some even quite public. But it would seem they are able to move past it. Likely via a real conversation. It's quite amazing what can be done in a relationship with honest conversation.

Ita. While I think Kim's issues run deeper than that she keeps bringing it up and basing it off that so we will run with it. They RSVP'd no. That's it. Don't and over.

Please don't try and tell me what I know. I've fully admitted it when Joyce was getting the better of her. But it didn't happen here. And judgemental isn't a buzz word like bully in this vase because Joyce is quite literally judging a girl she doesn't know. It's why even with say Lisa this season whom I greatly dislike I try to side ideally stick to her on screen behavior. I don't know her. I don't know her REAL life. I know what's on a reality show and in tabloids and blogs. Your Brandi hatred is deep and as if she murdered your dog or something. It's insane, amusing and a bit scary. You say she's consistently acting a pig in public? She was for a few months awhile back absolutely but it seems to have passed. I'm sure it happens here and there and whatever, it happens. I'd rather her be real and a mess than this image of perfect happiness that's a total lie. You really think you know these people on a real level. This is a heavily produced reality tv show. I find it fascinating how well you think you know Brandi's friends and the nature of their relationship and private conversations with her based on the 3 moments you've seen of them on the show.

Joyce didn't read her. She came off as a judgemental bitter bitch who tried to wind Brandi up except this time Brandi didn't fall for it. She defended herself and was pretty honest about being depressed and even using booze to get through it. I think it takes a lot to admit things like that esp when being attacked. Her friends are likely her friends because they see many, many sides we do not see and they understand she's going through some [!@#$%^&*]. Those are real friends. The ones who stand by you. And you have no idea if they talk to her about her issues or not. Parental relationships are complicated. They hashed it out, she bought them some things, they moved on. I'm thankful I've not had issues like that with my parents, tho if we did I'd hope we'd be able to move on like that as well. And I'd gladly take multiple NYT best selling novels myself. Joyce is lucky that carlton is such a flop and almost everyone wants Kim gone otherwise she'd be out for sure. Yeah I don't really think the crimes are fair to compare but I think the point was nene herself has a record and furthermore was friends with Marlo so does her criminal past really matter?