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5 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

I had always heard that getting royalties from characters that a writer had created on a soap was a myth. I also can't find any WGA rules/guidelines around that. 

You are correct.  It is a myth, and I wish it would go away. At least two former soap head-writers have stated in interviews that ii is not the truth.  I believe those writers may have been Claire Labine and Agnes Nixon, but I could be wrong about that.  The creator(s) of a soap opera, and their estate(s), may get royalties, depending on their original agreements/contracts and the Writer's Guild regulations at that time.  But head-writers do not get royalties for characters they create.   

21 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Lemay did admit that they didn't have any success recasting Alice. It's too bad he couldn't have figured out how to be satisfied with Jacqueline Courtney in the role. But if forced to choose between Alice and Iris I would have to go with Iris myself. 

I don't see any reason for choosing between Alice and Iris. The characters were very different.   

At what point did Lisa become rich?  Was it after her divorce from John Eldridge, and her return from "Our Private World"?  Or was it when she married Whit McCall?   

2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The AWHP identifies most of these actors.

This party was for director Len Valenta. I mentioned in a post elsewhere that I read somewhere that Mr Valenta had tapes of shows he had directed. They're probably sitting in an attic ....

Nancy Wickwire is one of the actors.  She played Liz Matthews after Audra Lindley left the show, and she certainly resembles Lindley in this film.  Wickwire has been rumored to have been Connie Ford's partner.  And it has long been speculated the character Nancy McGowen was named after Wickwire, who had been ill and passed-away just a few days after Ada's baby was born.    

6 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

What really baffled and irked me about all this was: how the hell did Susan Stewart end up living in Ellen's house? Ellen was wont to carry grudges for decades (ask Lisa, LOL); why would she sell or lease the Stewart house to Susan of all people???

There was no viable explanation to explain why Susan would be living in Ellen's house all those years.  Except TPTB simply wanted to keep the set and use it.  Most people don't realize, the Steward/Lowell house was (at the time) the longest running soap opera set still in use -- having been used on ATWT since the beginning.   They also probably put Susan in Ellen's house simply to save money by using an existing set, rather than building a new set for Susan.   

On 5/20/2021 at 6:11 PM, Liberty City said:

Another World and Santa Barbara were two completely different soaps in my eyes.

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by this.  Aren't all soaps completely different soaps? 

On 5/22/2021 at 3:12 AM, Paul Raven said:

Pleased to be able to share some rare RTPP photos.

Bettye Ackerman, John Hoyt, Mary K Wells, Julie Parrish

Joe Gallison, Mary K Wells

Frank Ferguson ,Gail Kobe (associate producer)

Great photos!  Thank you for posting.   I always thought the actor cast as Martin Peyton in the daytime version looked too young and healthy to play the role.  In the primetime show, Martin Payton was very frail, and seemed to be at death's door.   

32 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I always thought John Fitzpatrick was the one with the drinking problem.

It's been about a decade since I re-read the book, but wasn't there one actor with a drinking problem (Fitzpatrick), and another actor who had trouble with his lines exacerbated by drinking (Coster)??  Not sure about the details, but I believe Coster had trouble with lines (and maybe drinking), and Fitzpatrick had a drinking problem.   It's all really speculation, however.   

12 minutes ago, Vee said:

Didn't Lemay all but name Coster as the actor he counted as a friend who had a problem learning lines due to alcohol, and that contributed to his exit from AW? Coster tells a different story in his (excellent) WLS interview, but it's understandable that he might, nor is Lemay's word sacrosanct.

 

I've loved Nicholas Coster in so much TV and film - he was always a credit to anything he appeared in.

Yes, most fans of Lemay's book speculate that actor was Coster.  And Lemay's statements about Nic's problem learning lines may have been influenced by complaints from Beverly McKenzie.   The "problem" didn't seem to come up, until Nic was working opposite her.  

10 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

 

Yes.
However Santa Barbara has an active fandom still today.
70s Another World, particularly since noone will ever get to watch it anymore, is more or less forgotten but for the most hardcore of fans.

Perhaps, but if books contain only the things people remember anyway, then why write books?   Especially biographies and autobiographies.   90 percent of the stuff in Nic's book is remembered only by him.  Yet he recorded it for posterity.   That's one of the most important purposes of books, in my opinion.   

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 

Somebody must have convinced Nic to limit the Another World information in his book.  They probably told him it took place too long ago and nobody would care about it.   With all the crap that was happening in that studio in the mid-1970s, it's ridiculous that Nic didn't discuss it in his book. Another World was on fire in the ratings and it had critical acclaim, all while the cast and crew were being booed, screwed, tattooed, and barbecued by Paul Rauch and Harding Lemay.   Santa Barbara got an entire chapter, even though SB never got the ratings AW had -- even while SB was running.  And of course SB never even got close to number 2 in the ratings, where Another World spent most of the 1970s (while Nic was there).   I don't mean to be critical of Santa Barbara, but it was certainly not a more important soap opera than Another World.

About a year ago, several fans of classic AW tried to convince Allan to interview remaining AW actors from the 1970s -- the show's highest rated period.  We even provided him with a list of actors to contact.  Allan didn't even respond to us.   

8 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

The best bet would be to read Nic Coster's interview on We Love Soaps. He talks about his time on AW there

Is that an old interview?  If so, I've probably read it.   

7 hours ago, John said:

They better talk about it all

Of course they will mention Another World, but I'm confident any discussion of Nic's soaps will focus mostly on Santa Barbara, and possibly ATWT.  I doubt they will spend more than 5 minutes on Another World.  Especially since Nic was on that show in the mid-1970s, and Allan probably wasn't even born at that time.  Plus, AW was embroiled in controversy in 1975, and Allan won't touch that.  He should definitely ask Nic about working with George Reinholt and Jacquie Courtney, but I doubt he will.  He should also ask Nic about head-writer Harding Lemay and his unique writing style -- but he won't.   Sadly.

14 hours ago, Frozpog1 said:

On Twitter someone asked if he read Nic’s book and his reply is he doesn’t have time.  If someone is going on your show to promote a book shouldn’t reading it be Job #1 as an interviewer?

 

 

14 hours ago, Frozpog1 said:

On Twitter someone asked if he read Nic’s book and his reply is he doesn’t have time.  If someone is going on your show to promote a book shouldn’t reading it be Job #1 as an interviewer?

Not necessarily.  Larry King, arguably one of the best television interviewers ever, never read the books his guests had written.  He felt his questions would be more genuine, without already knowing what was in the book.  Plus, he said most of the audience would not have read the book either, making his curiosity more parallel to that of the audience.  On the other hand, other great interviewers, (Oprah for example) always read the books their guests have written.   So it really depends on the interviewing style of the interviewer.     

18 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Hopefully, people in the chat will ask questions about his time on AW

But Allan needs to be willing to use those questions in the interview.  Plus, Allan doesn't like to discuss anything controversial about soaps, and Nic was on Another World during a period with lots of well-known volatility in the studio -- leading to the firings of three of the lead actors in the same year (1975).   If they don't discuss that, then the entire interview will be worthless to fans of Another World.   

11 hours ago, Forever8 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Emmy Award-winning actor Nicolas Coster will be my guest in The Locher Room on Wednesday, May 19th at 3 p.m. EST / 12 p.m. PST. In his new memoir, Another Whole Afternoon, Nicolas shares his reflections from a London kid's transition from a British privileged life to becoming an American: from cowboy to factory worker, from movie actor to Presidential Guard, on Broadway to daytime soap opera fame and prime-time TV star. A turbulent but rewarding love life! All in search of creative expression. Along the way introducing disabled scuba divers and fellow celebrities to the wonders of the great undersea world. Truly harrowing Atlantic crossings as well as tranquil tropical splendors...these memories reflect an adventurous life many would envy. Daytime television fans will recognize Nicolas from his popular roles on As the World Turns (Edward Grimaldi), Another World (Robert Delaney) and Santa Barbara (Lionel Lockridge) to name a small number of those roles. In his 70-year career, Nicolas has appeared in over a dozen soap operas, countless primetime television shows and scores of stage and screen productions. This memoir "Another Whole Afternoon" is his first behind the scenes retelling of his life in front of the camera and his adventures beyond it.

Sorry to be negative, but I bet they say very little about Nic's experience on Another World.  Allen knows almost nothing about AW -- especially the 1970s, when Nic was on the show.  Plus, Nic doesn't say much about Another World in his book.  

Anyone remember this one??  On Another World around 1976-77, they introduced new characters, Dino and Sharon Amate.  Dino was a painter, and Sharon was his wife.  They moved to Bay City socialized with the artistic circle of characters -- Rachel, Elena, Quentin Ames, etc..  Neither character ever did much on the show, but there was a scene in which Rachel and Dino were alone in his painting studio.  Rachel was curious about his work, and Dino seemed unusually interested in Rachel.   Dino left the room for a few minutes, leaving Rachel alone in the studio.  She was looking through a few unfinished paintings stacked against the wall, and she found a painting of a nude woman with long blonde hair.  The woman in the painting was facing away, shown only from the back.  The side of her face would have been visible, but it was unfinished.  Rachel stopped and looked curiously at the painting while the camera focused closely on it, then Dino returned to the studio.   Rachel asked Dino about the painting, and he made a dismissive remark to change the subject.   It seemed like the beginnings of a new plot, some kind of mystery, maybe. But I'm not sure the painting or the blonde woman were ever mentioned again.  Dino and Sharon stayed on the show for about 6-months, but got little screen time, and no storyline. Then they were quietly written off.    So what was the purpose of those two characters (Dino and Sharon)?  And what was the plan for Rachel and that painting?   

11 hours ago, Forever8 said:

 

Promo for Search For Tomorrow and As The World Turns from 1981. 

Is that Lawrence Hugo in the SFT clip?   He played Mike Karr on Edge of Night in the 1960s, and was the best Mike Karr, in my opinion.   

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think Mac and Janice lived there too for a little while. And so did Cass, I think, once Cecile owned it.

You are probably right, because I was thinking Mac owned it too, briefly during one of his divorces from Rachel.   Wow, that house really got around.  Undoubtedly holds AW's record for house owned by the most different characters.  

I remember when Walter and Lenore moved into Bill and Missy Matthews' former house, and I thought that was a big deal.  Later, Lenore lived in the same house with Robert Delany.   That was the house with the sunken living room.    

16 hours ago, j swift said:

James accepted Steve after Steve revealed his identity to all at a posh wingding.  Steve purchased Blaine's house

 

Blaine's house had been Jordan Scott's house, which while it was referred to as a mansion, and coveted by Cecile, never seemed as palatial as the Cory estate, nor did it have a stable.  However, from a practical stand point, it was a lovely set and deserved a second life

The house Steve bought from Blaine had originally been Iris's mansion -- the house she built when she was engaged to Russ Matthews.  Her mansion had been designed by Robert Delany (before she married him), and built by Frame Enterprises (the original Steve's company). Iris lived there for a few years, before she moved into the penthouse.  I believe Iris sold her house to Elena, who sold it to Miranda Bishop.  The house had several owners possibly including Reena Cook, then Blaine, then Steve, before the set was finally retired.    

3 hours ago, j swift said:

I beg to differ.  Although I tried hard to find the source and failed, my memory from reading Soap World was that the Carrington family owned the newspaper.  Arguably, by the time Eliot moved to Bay City he may have acquired his own source of wealth through the publication of his book.  However, I also have a vague recollection that Eliot's family owned the newspaper and that is why he was considered to be a viable match for Iris.

I don't mean to argue, but Mac definitely owned the newspapers for which Elliot wrote. There was a specific plot point when it was revealed the real reason Elliot had never divorced Iris, despite their long separation, was that Mac had threatened to fire Elliot and black-ball him to the rest of the industry, if Elliot divorced Iris.  This was explained in a scene between Elliot and Mac when Robert Emhardt was playing Mac and Mac was more of a ruthless businessman than he was later.   I specifically remember this.  Also, I'm not suggesting Elliot came from poverty, but just saying his background was left vague. And it was not established that he came from wealth.  He may have, but it was just never mentioned.   

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Idk

 

I don't remember there being a Carrington family fortune by the time Texas debuted. I could be wrong though. But I do know that when Mac died, Dennis did receive an inheritance.

I don't think it was ever established that Elliot Carrington was independently wealthy or came from a wealthy family. He was a hard working journalist who worked for the newspaper syndicate that Mac owned.  And Mac threatened to fire him, if he ever divorced Iris.  I always assumed that Elliot's wealth came from Iris.  So there probably was not a Carrington family fortune -- other than that which Iris provided.  And Iris's money had actually been part of the Cory family fortune -- or perhaps from her mother's family, who Mac mentioned had been wealthy.    

15 hours ago, j swift said:

Was Iris's marriage to Brian her longest on screen marriage during her first run on AW?

Yes, it was probably Iris's longest on screen marriage during both runs on the show.  We don't know how long she was married to Elliot Carrington, but most of that marriage took place off screen before the characters were introduced.   

54 minutes ago, Mitch said:

Yea, Bert's memorial really put a glaring focus on Kobe/Long's huge changes and the impact it had on the show. They had Parker, O'Leary, JVD,Kinkaid, WR, and Terseau as the only people left who had really any scenes of impact with her..(they even had Judi Evan off screen for that dumb ass Sampson Girl thing...you would think she would be there for MOL and to bring her back closer to Phillip, and Bev was on not there, though Alex had only one scene with Bert McKinnsey spoke fondly and highly of Charita on an interview when she just left Texas, which focuses on both of their mutual dislike and annoyance with Ruth Warrick!!)  Not only the actors who werent there but it was glaring how the tone of the show had totally changed from an warm ensemble show to a cold, campy show dominated by Reva and the Lewis men and Kyle Sampson,and a bunch of newbies.

Is the one scene between Bert and Alexandra available on Youtube?   I'd love to see them together.   

27 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

I was intrigued by the historical references in Scotty’s scenes yesterday with Liz and Cam - talking about Jeff with Liz, and his own past with Cam. Nice use of history there, which is interesting because I’ve been watching late 70s GH clips with Scotty and Jeff, and it’s actually interesting to see how it all unfolded back then.

 

Would it be worth bringing back RDA as Jeff after 39 years? I mean, if Kim Delaney can return to daytime after 36 years...

I've been told that RDA is no longer "camera ready."  A recast would be great.  The show needs Jeff to play the Steve Hardy role.