Everything posted by will81
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Janice did get a primetime vehicle, Norman Lear's Roxie, but the pilot was never picked up. I believe it was done around 75/76. Not sure why she never got anything more after that. I really like Jance's portrayal now that we have seen a few episodes. She really balanced Leslie's shy, introverted personality with her newfound freedom and strength. I think Janice in real life was a fireball, you can see her infuse that element into Leslie in the 1975 episodes we have, such as when she and Laurie are arguing about Brad at the hospital (when Jennifer is having her mastectomy) but then she can revert back to the softer, slightly weaker Leslie such as when she and Laurie argue about Laurie no longer wanting to work for her. A scene I have watched over and over as I think both JLB and JL are so amazing in that scene together. I agree, Victoria's Leslie was more internalised and had Victoria originated the role, I might have really loved that, but now seeing a bit more of both, it often feels like Leslie was muted quite a bit after Janice left. The growth Janice brought to Leslie was almost reversed. I also wonder if Janice's departure pushed Bell's focus onto JLB's Laurie. I think they were a lot more equal initially, maybe with Leslie being more central. It feels after Victoria took over that Bell made Leslie more a supporting character in Laurie's story.
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I was just watching the Nov 20, 1987 episode where Eileen's Ashley got so fed up of Jack she laid back in her chair and started fanning herself and rolling her eyes. Terry/Jack was being more annoying than usual about Brad. At the end Jack leaves and Ashley does the gun to the head thing. It is these moments that were lost with recasts, the shading of things. I also liked in the same scene when Jack makes a quip about Brad, Ashley's demeanour gets darker, I think more so for Traci than Brad. Ashley was pretty much a surrogate mother to Traci and whenever something about her life came up, Ashley was immediately defensive. Especially with Dina and Jack.
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Here are a couple of articles on Eileen's arrival and departure. No concrete first air date, that article comes from Jun 27, 1982. The second article lists her last day as Fri Dec 2, 1988 with Brenda taking over Mon Dec 5, 1988 Also notice Marguerite Ray was added in June 1982, probably around the same time as Eileen
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I think Lester hadn't been happy for a while. That's why he left in 1985 to do a tv movie. I think it was a movie of the week that had the potential to be turned into a series called Blade in Hong Kong. He was off Y&R for about six months, he definitely wasn't starved for story back then. I am guessing it was a multitude of things, but I feel Lester would have quit regardless of if he had story, I think he was just over it.
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Yes in late July 1981 Victor asked Eve to help him, but Eve pretty much disappeared 2 months after that and didn't return until Oct 1982 in Paris with Julia Newman. Actually Victor recommended Eve to Stuart in 1980, he knew her already, it wasn't until after Eve got her job with Stuart that she demanded Victor pay child support. So Bell had set up the Victor story early, I assume the Stuart/Liz thing was only ever supposed to be temporary.
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Eve was Jill's housemate, I think they bonded because they both had sons. Eve was in the Stuart/Liz story, but Bell established her fling with Victor pretty quickly, I think within a few months she had shifted to Victor's story. Eve was only on for a year (80-81), then returned about a year later (1982) I guess after that she was really more a guest star. Chris was pretty much not appearing by June 1980, apart from Lynn giving birth to twins, David Hassellhoff wanted off the show to pursue primetime, instead he agreed to a new contract, but one where he would only appear sporadically and very rarely. Lynn Topping refused to sign that contract, so she was dismissed and the original plan was to recast. Snapper and Chris didn't appear again until Mar 1981 and Lynn Topping returned with David, who had no luck in the primetime game. JLB was pregnant that year and wasn't really appearing much either and had a temp recast when she went on maternity leave (around the time Eve first showed up) Leslie still had amnesia, sort of. Peggy was around, but was fighting with her father over Steve Williams. Logistically it seems the Brooks sisters were kinda scattered or not really around as much during the time Eve was going after Stuart.
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Here is some stuff for Patty. First is the announcement that Lilibet Stern signed a 5 year contract with Y&R from Nov 6, 1980. Patty was absent from any synopsis from Jul - Dec. So maybe Tammy Taylor left in Jul and Lilibet first aired in Dec. Next is the announcement that Lilibet was leaving and Andrea Evans was taking over, from May 22, 1983 Last is a few questions from soap fans who don't seem too happy with the recast
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Joe was her uncle, she was definitely on Summer 1983 according to soap synopsis I have. She would just appear every summer, then full time from 1986. I think the Nina story with Rose was her first proper storyline on the show. In terms of the Jabot photographers I believe Joe Blair was on at least from 1982. He has a scene with Jack were Jack is telling him about proposing to Patti and Joe is giving him a hard time about it. Skip, I am almost certain came on in 1987, pretty sure around the time Nina got a job there as his assistant. Then yeah Blade came next I guess in 1992 and I do think Malcolm might have shot some stuff for Jabot or maybe it was Brash & Sassy. Pretty sure I remember scenes of Victoria flirting with Malcolm at the studio in the mid to late 90's.
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Sigh, what this show could have been post Bell if Alden hadn't been pushed out. Though she did create one of my least favourite (to this day) storylines 'The Great Sperm Caper' Hate that story with a passion. Especially that it was Ashley who got pregnant. Even Eileen at the time said she was sure Ashley was not the culprit, that it would be out of character (which I totally agree with). I wonder how she reacted when she found out. I would say all three women were thrown under the bus for that storyline. As trashy as Nikki was when she was first introduced and as thug as Diane had become by that point, I still can't deal with the fact they had drag down fights over Victor's sperm. Just cringe worthy to me.
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Speaking of Kay and Nikki. I was thinking about Jeanne talking about Melody freezing her out at a certain point and then suddenly being friendly again. Do we know what period this happened? The best I can remember was that Kay and Nikki basically stopped interacting around 1985 when the Nikki/Jack/Ashley/Victor quad (or quin with Matt) was in full swing. I don't think they shared a proper scene again until 1996, when Nikki was about to hook up with Josh Landers. Anyone remember them interacting between 1985 - 1995? It's a shame since Kay would have been great to have in Nikki's life during her brief period of alcoholism. Also did Nikki spend like 80% or more of her time on the ranch between 1989 - 1999? I don't remember her outside that place much until she took an interest in Jabot around the time Jack and Brad were trying to take over/reclaim Jabot.
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Not sure when Jack met Victor. He was one of the few not at the Victor/Nikki wedding (or am i not remembering that properly). I remember that was the week Patti and Jack's divorce became final. I assume Jack interacted with Nikki first though, which I believe was late 1984 and probably met Victor that way. This was also around the time Victor took over Megeron, so that may have been when they met, this was very late 1984
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