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  1. In Michael Corbett's (Michael Pavel)  April 1983 SOD interview  --he was asked about his departure from Ryan's Hope --he gave a much different version of his leaving than he did in 2007 (on the SN forum from his webmaster). Maybe in 1983 he was  trying to be nice -- or maybe trying to not burn any bridges.

     

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    What Michael said in 2007

     

    I thought you all might find it interesting to know how the end came about for Michael Pavel.

    I personally didn't know that they were going to kill off the
    character. Kelli Maroney (Kim) and I had just finished a big publicity tour with Luke and Laura from General Hospital.

    We got back to town on a Sunday and that Monday I was called into the office by the executive producer at the time Ellen Barrett. She never seemed to like me or the character of Michael Pavel very much. She told me to come in sit down. She said "I have some news for you." "Michael Pavel is going to die."

    "You're kidding," I said. "No I'm not" and in Devil Wears Prada finesse she tossed out a parting "That's all."

    Within 6 or 7 shows, I was taking bullet shots from Kim and her mother Rae.



     

  2. 11 hours ago, adrnyc said:

    Yes, the Frank jogging scene happened already. That is such a staple of Daytime Drama (milking the location shooting for all its worth - even if it's just around the corner from the studio) that I didn't even think twice about it. I just knew that DHK has to be leaving for Hardcastle & McCormick soon so I thought he was going to get hit by a car, get amnesia, and disappear from the show for awhile. (I was glad to be wrong about that.)  It was nearly as bad as that endless Ireland location shooting with nothing but voice over from Mary Ryan - LOL    It also reminded me of someone on AMC who was headed to the altar (to Tad?) running in her wedding dress through snowy streets for half an episode before being hit by a car. Or Nicole on AW on her horse headed for the giant truck coming her way for half an episode.  Soaps love to justify the location shooting!

     

     

    DHK left Ryan's Hope for the NBC TV series Chicago Story - H&M premiered two years later (1983) 

     

    That 1981 Frank outdoor scene always made me think of Andrew Robinson's Frank going out for a walk ...and then he starts running through the street at night after Jill told him Seneca was the father of her baby with  "lies...Lies...Lies"  goes through his head....until he finally collapses on the steps of St. Patrick's...

  3. 1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

    I know this is Augusta Dabney in the ad at 55 minutes but the daughter looks so familiar to me. Is it Jennifer Harmon?

     

    (never mind - someone in the comments said it was Betty Buckley)

     

      Carl, thanks for sharing that – love all the old commercials you find!

  4. This is a Bernard Barrow (Louie) interview from Ryan's Bar Online

     

    http://ryansbaronline.tripod.com/barrowspw91.html

     

    Bernard Barrow: 
    Big Daddy 
    Soap Opera Weekly, September 3, 1991 
    by John A. Penzotti 

     

     

    Although I've been interviewing soap opera actors for years, I've never been as nervous about spending an afternoon with anyone as I was when I met Bernie Barrow, this year's Emmy winner for Outstanding Actor in a Supporting role for his portrayal of Louie Slavinsky on Loving. But on the way to meet him I came to this conclusion: Barrow is a veteran and a pro, and well-equipped to field whatever I might throw at him.

     

    Still, I waited before I asked him about his toupee. Being a member of the Thinning Follicle Society myself, I wondered if it was necessary to his career or just a personal decision, especially since Johnny Ryan, Barrow's beloved Ryan's Hope character, wore one, and Louie does not. "I became balding (in my late 20's) and then bald by my early 30's," he explains, without a hint of annoyance. "I started wearing a piece for commercials in the 70's. It started as a small patch of hair and every three years or so, the hair pieces became fuller and fuller. In the 60's and 70's, commercials demanded hair. Fathers had hair."

     

    To him it was a tool of the trade. But if he was going to wear a piece, he wanted a good one. "I went through four or five. Joe Paris, who makes Frank Sinatra's hairpiece, made mine." Now I know who to call.

     

    "I had heard about the role of Johnny Ryan, but could not get a reading for the show," he continues, since, he says, it was felt he was too ethnic looking for the part. Through a personal friend who was connected with RH, he was able to get a reading, but it was for the part of Dr. Seneca Beaulac. Feeling that the toupee would work well with the characterization of this strong, gentle romantic doctor, he wore it to the screen test.

     

    After he finished his test, Barrow says, he was asked to test for Johnny Ryan, so he removed the hairpiece and read for the part. Later, he would be offered his choice of the two roles. Taking the show's title into consideration, he chose Johnny Ryan (John Gabriel was cast as Seneca). "I showed up the first day, and after rehearsal they asked me, 'Where's the hairpiece that you had on during the screen test?'" he recalls. "They were referring to the test for Seneca. I said, "I wasn't wearing a hairpiece." They said, 'Yes you were.'" He phoned his wife, Joan Kaye, who brought him the piece, and Johnny Ryan was born - with a full head of hair.

     

    When he joined Loving in the summer of 1990, Barrow and head writer Millee Taggart, who created the role of Louie, agreed that the hairpiece was not essential. "They wanted a strong, upfront, masculine kind of guy, which I equate with sexy," says Barrow. "They wanted to create middle-age romance between a guy who loved life, and somebody like Kate (Rescott, actress Nada Rowand), who needed a lift."

     

    Louie, says Barrow, appreciates Kate for who she is. "I love the idea of playing blue-collar men," he continues. "My father and mother were both Russian immigrants. My father ran a laundry and my mother worked alongside him."

     

    Blue collar or otherwise, Barrow has always taken on older characters. "At 19, I was playing Jonah Goodman in Irwin Shaw'sGentle People, off Broadway. (Jonah) was  an older man - late 50's, early 60's," says Barrow. "So, I'm wearing a pair of my father's old pants, sticking my gut out, walking like him, and I was wonderful. I got a note from my agent; he said, 'how dare you play these roles - you're wonderful, but let the older guys play these roles. Come back in 40 years.'" A somewhat disheartening, if not insulting, comment, especially to a young actor.

     

    Besides tackling roles beyond his years, Barrow had been a college student since age 16. On the heels of the agent's advice, the 19-year-old actor focused on his studies, earning a bachelor's degree in theater history that year, and a master's in business administration at 21. By 22, he was one of the youngest professors at Brooklyn College in New York. His mother even called him "my son the professor who acts." But the actor inside him always seemed to be in conflict with the professor.

    The conflict came to a head about 20 years ago. "I was in a weekend encounter group," he explains, "Somebody asked me what I did for a living. I hesitated for a minute, then I said I was an actor. I burst into tears I couldn't control. All my life I had been telling people that I was a teacher who acts."

     

    "Ultimately you are what you love to be, or what gives you the most pleasure," he adds. "I'm proud to be an actor. I enjoy being an actor."

    He also enjoys being a husband and father. Barrow and his wife have four children between them (two each from previous marriages), now grown up and on their own. According to Barrow, one of the hardest things "is to tell your children what you really think. (Often) if you tell them what you really think and why, you will in some way wound them, or run the risk of losing some of their love or respect."

     

    "To be critical of one's children is not always a good idea," he continues, "because love gets in the way. Given the opportunities - as Johnny Ryan and Louie Slavinsky - to deal in a one-on-one way with a kid who needs to be made aware of what they are doing, or who is maybe going down the wrong path, is somehow satisfying for me. I don't know why. Maybe because it always puts me in a position to be freer than I am as a father in my own life. As though I can do it vicariously as an actor, not as a father." Barrow himself prefers a hands-off approach to child rearing, only occasionally offering opinions or advice. "I think people should make their own mistakes. It's important for kids to know that they can make mistakes, but their parents will still love them."

     

    Barrow has found the current storyline with on-screen son Paul (Joe Breen) a moving experience. (Paul is paralyzed following an injury from an explosion). "One of the hardest things so far is the emotional trauma that Louie has gone through with having his son so severely injured. Trying to find a way to get his son to forgive him for all those things that have happened between them over the years, and realizing that all the mistakes I have made with him may have caused this to happen."

    In spite of his reluctance to give advice, Barrow does share these words for theater hopefuls. "I always tell young actors to find a good teacher so they can find out what they're doing right and wrong and have some ammunition or technique for (those days) when they don't feel particularly good or haven't had a lot of sleep, or their co-star has a cold and is complaining."

     

    Winning the Daytime Emmy award helps validate Barrow's work on Loving. But was it Louie's Emmy or did Johnny Ryan have something to do with it? "I don't think the award was given to me for outstanding work in one's lifetime," Barrow says, "because if that were true, Susan Lucci (Erica, All My Children, who's been nominated 12 times) would have one."

    Barrow speaks of how his late parents might have felt about their son's victory. Barrow feels that his mother "would have been joyous. She would have said that she was glad that I won for playing a good guy and not a bad guy. When I was doing The Secret Storm, playing Dan Kincaid, she was concerned that I was a bad guy. She didn't like her son doing bad things. I just kept telling her that bad guys have all the fun." But then again, good guys always win in the end.

     

     

     

     

  5. On 5/6/2018 at 12:32 AM, amybrickwallace said:

    I wonder why they didn't write Frank out at the same time. It didn't really make sense for them to have a long-distance marriage.

     

     

    I hope they had Frank make visits to see Jill & Mary in Australia throughout his year in Riverside without them

  6. Wonder why they changed their minds about how to write Jill out 

    Newspaper/December 1987

    Bye, Nance. Dec. 9 will mark Nancy Addison Altman's last day as Jillian Coleridge Ryan on "Ryan's Hope," one of the few actors who has been with the show since it premiered back in 1975. A strong and reliable actress, she garnered two Emmy nominations during her years as Jill. She and her husband, former "20/20" producer Daniel Goldfarb, are moving to California, where Altman will be making rounds of film auditions and Goldfarb will be pursuing a new career as a screenwriter. Meanwhile, back at "RH," there were reports that the writers were going to send Jill off with a flourish by getting her involved in a political scandal or putting the character in a coma just in case Nancy decides to return in the future. Now, they've decided to simply send Jill off to Australia to visit her mother. Soap Bits - Even though John Sanderford is angry that his "Ryan's Hope" character, Frank Ryan, has been relegated to the back burner, he just signed a new 18-month contract...


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    Considering that Nancy felt bored her last year and a half the show --perhaps it was just a little too soon when they asked her to return having just left 8 or 9 months earlier.

  7. 12 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

    Wow, I can't even imagine a recast Jill. I'm still glad she came back for the show's final episodes.

    Maybe they could have just had Jill presumed dead in some kind of accident in Australia -- no body found. Bess or Maggie could have been watching Mary and why she wouldn't  have been with Jill at the time of the accident. If Nancy ever did agree to return-- just say she had a recurrence of her amnesia caused by the accident.

  8. Shortly before the cancellation was announced in the fall of 1988 -- newspaper column reported that they asked Nancy Addison Altman to return  to Ryan's Hope and she declined. It then went on to say that they were considering recasting the role.

  9. On 3/31/2018 at 5:11 PM, DRW50 said:

     

    I often wonder what Jill's fate would have been without Nancy in the role - Jill was such a challenging character, especially early on, but Nancy always gave her so much heart and sweetness along with the iciness and the harder-edged. Her performance when Edmund died and Jill got hooked on pills was superb and deserved more recognition (I can't remember who won the Emmy that year). It may have been too much for voters,

     

    On 4/2/2018 at 9:52 AM, amybrickwallace said:

     

    It was Irene Dailey of AW, in 1979. Others up for the Lead Actress Emmy that year were Susan Seaforth Hayes (DAYS), Beverlee McKinsey and Victoria Wyndham (AW) and Nancy's RH co-star, Helen Gallagher.

    Something that I have come to question is that it is often said/written that Nancy Addison received her emmy nomination for the drug addition storyline -- but that doesn't fit with the submission deadline   - -which ended the first week of March 1979.  Jill didn't even take her first non-prescribed pill until March 6. The addiction s/l would have qualified for the 1980 emmy's -- not the 1979 ones. (She did not receive a nomination in 1980)

    It's likely that Nancy was nominated in 1979 for the accident and the physical and emotional pain immediately following the accident -- and not the addiction/recovery story.

     

     

  10. On 3/29/2018 at 9:47 PM, BetterForgotten said:

    Random question - was Nancy Addison Altman fired, or did she leave on her own accord in 1988? Jillian was probably my favorite character early on, and I don't think Altman ever got the respect she deserved as an actress. Such a stunning woman in her prime too. 

     

    On 3/29/2018 at 10:34 PM, BetterForgotten said:

    Thanks for the link. Hmm, didn't know she left to try her hand at Hollywood (she was probably considered "too old" by Hollywood by then, sadly). It couldn't have been for very long though, as she was briefly on AMC later in '89, and later on Loving.

     

     

     

     

    Nancy was 41 when she left the show - - and other actresses --like Louise Shaffer (Rae) --who talked about age discrimination that begins with actresses once they turn 40 (Louise was written off RH at 41)  - -so it was a big gamble for Nancy to make a try at Hollywood already in that age bracket.

     


    This is taken from the December 1, 1987 Soap Opera Digest article called To Quit Or Not To Quit? where they talked to several actors about their decision to leave -- or to stay -- with their soap.


     

    Close buddies thought Nancy Addison should be committed, too. “Particularly my actor friends who are not working,” she says. “And my family thought I was nuts.” Having played Jillian Ryan for the last twelve years on RYAN”S HOPE, Addison finally decided to pack her bags (her character's departure from the show happens next month). Although she concedes, “I wasn't going to walk away without feeling financially secure,” her adios stemmed from boredom.

    “I was just tired of it. They'd done everything with the character that they could do and, ultimately, as a step-grandmother and an expectant mother on the show, it was very hard to create a story. For the last year, I really had nothing to do. For me to sit there with three lines once a week was silly when I could possibly be off doing other things.” 

    She's relocated to Southern California to try her luck, not an outlandish gamble considering she has juggled Broadway, features, and a mini-series throughout her RYAN'S run. Still, socking away bucks prior to the move was pretty mandatory. “ It's too much to take the emotional risk, the career risk, and the financial risk – it's like a triple whammy. I don't think an actor should do that to himself,” she reflects.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  11. A New York poster at the old SOAPnet forum (this poster is one who put some of the episodes online and her YouTube name is 28fairplay) actually phoned and talked Claire Labine in 2007 after that reboot -- and Claire told her music rights were the problem.

     

     

     

    8 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

    I recall a long time ago where one of the actors interview couldn't wait till the show aired past a certain point because then they would be getting residuals for episodes rerun.. so it is possible it has to do with the performers not getting paid if the reruns stopped at a certain point (end of 1981).

     

    Yeah, that was Ilene Kristen about her 1982 return to the show.

     

     

    Also before the 2007 rewind, another poster over at the SOAPnet forum had lunch with Peter Haskell (Hollis) and his wife--  she told him she was excited that his episodes would be starting on the channel. He told her he doubted the 1982-1989 shows would ever be seen there because the contracts when he joined the show were the first ones to start having residual clauses.

     

     

     

     

  12. On 3/23/2018 at 11:02 AM, adrnyc said:

     

     

    This Friday's episode for me was 1490 above. There is a scene at 40 minutes (the video is Thurs & Fri together) where Jack confronts Delia about who gave her the money to start the Crystal Palace. I loved Randall in the scene and it made me think about what @amybrickwallace asked me when I was in the midst of my disgust with Delia for purposefully trying to run down Barry with her car. Amy asked me how I would've felt if IK were doing the storyline. Ever since then, I've been thinking about the difference between the two performances.

     

    Edited to say: Thinking back on that storyline of Delia/Barry/Car, I do think that if IK had been Delia at the time, I would've believed that the character would do something like that. I still wouldn't have liked it, but it wouldn't have seemed so out of left field as it did to me with RE.

     

    While I personally don't care for IK's acting, I understand and appreciate that she *is* Delia. Her version of Delia is obviously bi-polar or manic depressive or has some sort of serious psychological issue. Randall's was ditzier but also not so manic. In the scene I mentioned above, I was trying to picture IK doing the scene. It would've been slightly OTT, manic, and it would've been so OBVIOUS that she was lying. I prefer Randall's acting because, although both the audience and Jack can see that she's lying, it's subtle. You can see that she's trying to keep her cool but her face gives her away here and there.

     

     

    Glad to hear you still have your love for Randall after how you felt about Delia's hit and run of Barry and framing Faith...

     

    On 3/23/2018 at 11:02 AM, adrnyc said:

    do wish we saw the Ryans more but, with Siobhan back, I'm hoping that changes. Right now, we just get a lot of Siobhan and Joe, which I also enjoy, and I understand they're re-establishing them on the canvas. When I think of the fact that, at the end of this year, the SoapNet run is over, I do get a little sad. I have quite enjoyed Ryan's Hope over the past 6 years!

     

    I always got sad when SOAPnet would get to that  point, too...

  13. Reverend Ann Gillespie (Siobhan #2) has left her position as Senior Associate Rector at Christ Church of Alexandria in Virginia

    http://www.historicchristchurch.org/blog/saying-goodbye-is-hard-and-yet-its-vitally-important-to-do?platform=hootsuite


    Saying Goodbye is hard….and yet it’s vitally important to do
    7 FEB 2018 | ANN GILLESPIE | GRATITUDECHANGECHRIST CHURCH

    Somebody stood in line this past Sunday to tell me they wouldn’t be here for my final Sunday, and then said, “But I am not saying ‘Goodbye.’ I’m saying ‘See you around.’” It was hard even for her to look me in the eye. It’s true, we might bump into each other, he and I, but goodbyes are important and if we avoid them we miss out on something powerful.

    Jesus thought saying Goodbye was so important, four chapters in the Gospel of John - in what we call the Farewell Discourse - are devoted to preparing the disciples for his absence. In that discourse, he instructs them to “love one another, as I have loved you” and then to carry that love out into the world.

    We must feel all the feelings, the hard ones, the painful ones, the powerless ones along with the joyous and fun ones. We must acknowledge endings when they happen. When I leave Christ Church, it marks the end of a pastoral relationship. A pastoral relationship is unique. We were brought together by God (along with some help from Pierce and the search committee). When I was commissioned, it was my charge to love you and serve you to the best of my ability and to the glory of God. It was my charge to engage with you in ministry that would help bring in the reign of God. We have laughed together and we have cried together and we have made a difference in the world together. We have done it in the name and spirit of Christ and it is in that same way that we will say Goodbye. And God will lead me somewhere else where my pastoral gifts will be used and God will bring you new pastors. God is always in the middle of it and God is always making things new. But before they can be new, some things must die. And that is sad. “Blessed are those who mourn,” says Jesus in his first sermon.

    We need to get good at saying goodbye. Loss – any loss - is to be felt fully and deeply because it expands our ability to love. When we accept that heartbreak is just part of this human experience, it actually makes the heart stronger and more flexible. And then we are able to love one another more fully and deeply and then take that love out into the world which so desperately needs it. Will it be hard? You bet. Will I feel lost without this community? Yes, for a while, I will. But the beloved community of Christ Church will go on being the beloved community and I will find other communities to love and serve.

    Be well. Do God’s work. Have fun and feel all the feelings.

     

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  14. Reverend Ann Gillespie (Siobhan #2, Ryan's Hope  /Jackie Taylor, Beverly Hills, 90210) has left her position as Senior Associate Rector at Christ Church of Alexandria in Virginia


    Saying Goodbye is hard….and yet it’s vitally important to do


    Somebody stood in line this past Sunday to tell me they wouldn’t be here for my final Sunday, and then said, “But I am not saying ‘Goodbye.’ I’m saying ‘See you around.’” It was hard even for her to look me in the eye. It’s true, we might bump into each other, he and I, but goodbyes are important and if we avoid them we miss out on something powerful.

    Jesus thought saying Goodbye was so important, four chapters in the Gospel of John - in what we call the Farewell Discourse - are devoted to preparing the disciples for his absence. In that discourse, he instructs them to “love one another, as I have loved you” and then to carry that love out into the world.

    We must feel all the feelings, the hard ones, the painful ones, the powerless ones along with the joyous and fun ones. We must acknowledge endings when they happen. When I leave Christ Church, it marks the end of a pastoral relationship. A pastoral relationship is unique. We were brought together by God (along with some help from Pierce and the search committee). When I was commissioned, it was my charge to love you and serve you to the best of my ability and to the glory of God. It was my charge to engage with you in ministry that would help bring in the reign of God. We have laughed together and we have cried together and we have made a difference in the world together. We have done it in the name and spirit of Christ and it is in that same way that we will say Goodbye. And God will lead me somewhere else where my pastoral gifts will be used and God will bring you new pastors. God is always in the middle of it and God is always making things new. But before they can be new, some things must die. And that is sad. “Blessed are those who mourn,” says Jesus in his first sermon.

    We need to get good at saying goodbye. Loss – any loss - is to be felt fully and deeply because it expands our ability to love. When we accept that heartbreak is just part of this human experience, it actually makes the heart stronger and more flexible. And then we are able to love one another more fully and deeply and then take that love out into the world which so desperately needs it. Will it be hard? You bet. Will I feel lost without this community? Yes, for a while, I will. But the beloved community of Christ Church will go on being the beloved community and I will find other communities to love and serve.

    Be well. Do God’s work. Have fun and feel all the feelings.
     

  15. Reverend Ann Gillespie (Jackie Taylor) has left her position as Senior Associate Rector at Christ Church of Alexandria in Virginia

    Saying Goodbye is hard….and yet it’s vitally important to do
    7 FEB 2018 | ANN GILLESPIE | GRATITUDECHANGECHRIST CHURCH

    Somebody stood in line this past Sunday to tell me they wouldn’t be here for my final Sunday, and then said, “But I am not saying ‘Goodbye.’ I’m saying ‘See you around.’” It was hard even for her to look me in the eye. It’s true, we might bump into each other, he and I, but goodbyes are important and if we avoid them we miss out on something powerful.

    Jesus thought saying Goodbye was so important, four chapters in the Gospel of John - in what we call the Farewell Discourse - are devoted to preparing the disciples for his absence. In that discourse, he instructs them to “love one another, as I have loved you” and then to carry that love out into the world.

    We must feel all the feelings, the hard ones, the painful ones, the powerless ones along with the joyous and fun ones. We must acknowledge endings when they happen. When I leave Christ Church, it marks the end of a pastoral relationship. A pastoral relationship is unique. We were brought together by God (along with some help from Pierce and the search committee). When I was commissioned, it was my charge to love you and serve you to the best of my ability and to the glory of God. It was my charge to engage with you in ministry that would help bring in the reign of God. We have laughed together and we have cried together and we have made a difference in the world together. We have done it in the name and spirit of Christ and it is in that same way that we will say Goodbye. And God will lead me somewhere else where my pastoral gifts will be used and God will bring you new pastors. God is always in the middle of it and God is always making things new. But before they can be new, some things must die. And that is sad. “Blessed are those who mourn,” says Jesus in his first sermon.

    We need to get good at saying goodbye. Loss – any loss - is to be felt fully and deeply because it expands our ability to love. When we accept that heartbreak is just part of this human experience, it actually makes the heart stronger and more flexible. And then we are able to love one another more fully and deeply and then take that love out into the world which so desperately needs it. Will it be hard? You bet. Will I feel lost without this community? Yes, for a while, I will. But the beloved community of Christ Church will go on being the beloved community and I will find other communities to love and serve.

    Be well. Do God’s work. Have fun and feel all the feelings.
     

  16. 22 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

    Maybe someone can try to contact him and find out what the status is on the book.

     

    Someone, from the old Soapnet forum, had left him a message on his IMDb page (before they removed those message boards) but they never received a reply.

  17. On 5/4/2015 at 10:24 PM, safe said:

    This message was posted in the comments section of a Ryan's Hope YouTube episode. Looks like Nancy Addison's (Jill) husband has finally finished his book.

     


    Daniel Goldfarb 4 days ago
    Nancy's biography - "Warrior Princess," has finally been completed and is on the way to publication. I promised her it would be done and I was finally able to accomplish that promise. Daniel S. Goldfarb, her husband. The Daniel Goldfarb shown on the Google search is not me. I am the former ABC TV News producer and not the playwright whose picyures appear on the site. I think all of Nancy's fans and all people who face the difficulties of battling a deadly disease will find inspiration from her story.
    Daniel S. Goldfarb
     

    I was thinking about this the other day-- I guess the book never came out?

  18. On 2/20/2018 at 11:34 PM, amybrickwallace said:

     

    That’s what I thought of the Lockridge family choosing to eat at Eden Capwell's Orient Express restaurant on SB (located on the top floor of the Capwell Hotel). After all, the Capwell and Lockridge families were established as having had this long-running feud that had lasted for generations. I guess in situations like these, the writers wanted us to forget all that. 😂

     

    You are probably right -- but sometimes it was impossible to forget!

  19. On 2/14/2018 at 7:50 AM, adrnyc said:

     

     

    Oh, and Delia's Crystal Palace has been vandalized. I hope it's not gone forever; I liked that set!

     

    I liked that set, too. I just felt that most of the characters would not be regular patrons of the Crystal Palace because they did not like Delia. Every time one of them walked in to the place - I would say to myself,   "Gee, Jill, you hate Delia! Why are you going there for dinner - or to spend the evening!"  

  20. 3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

    Ilene and Bernie in this episode (Ilene's scenes are...certainly memorable). I guess this must have been really close to the end for her.

     

     

     

    Thanks, Carl!

     

    Ilene reminded me of Delia impatiently ringing the doorbell and saying they didn't  know what "I"'ve been through

     

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