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On 10/16/2023 at 1:09 PM, AbcNbc247 said:

Chad and Stephanie’s scenes were good too, but Chad’s memories of Abigail seem sudden and random. I know it’s her birthday, but they really seemed go from nothing to everything in just the span of an episode. Like with many other storylines on Days lately, that should have been the storyline from the very beginning. Or at least should have  always been in the background of Chad and Stephanie’s storyline with Alex, that way today would’ve made more sense. 

Because they're clumsily setting up Abby to return on their wedding day.

2 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

This gives me flashbacks to the MODELS, INC. cliffhanger ending... lol iykyk

You're in hell baby, HOOKER HELL!

Ryan's Hope is really suffering from lack of clearances now - it's dropped down into the lower 2s permanently and their clearances are now in the lower 80s percentile. 

Helmut Berger was actually perfectly cast as a complete Eurosleaze with a cocaine addiction, unfortunately, they never truly went there and clearly things were happening behind the scenes - I've long been of the opinion that season 7b was the worst of the show, but I think the middle part of season 4 beats it. The show just completely loses its way until the Hong Kong episodes, you have characters that are just milling about and worst of all they basically decide to neutralize several conflicts on the show for no real reason, all while the music is getting louder and louder signalling to us that something is happening, but nothing is.

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

This weekend, I saw an ad for a Dallas channel on Pluto TV. Is this new?

Are you sure it wasn't Dynasty?

9 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I can see that with Justin, but Maggie definitely knows. 

Maggie might gloss over it though - saying someone's a rape baby is a sensitive subject.

Mind you, not that I think the writers are intelligent enough to take such things into account so never mind.

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And, I liked the Maggie/Justin scenes and her telling him about Mickey and Mike as a way of comforting him and giving him hope, but yeah, Bill and Laura did not have an affair. It was rape. 

To be fair, we don't know if the characters know the circumstances around that, so they might think it was an affair as Laura and certainly Bill might've glossed over things.

On 10/8/2023 at 11:31 AM, Paul Raven said:

The idea behind Sue Ellen and a toy boy was good but the execution was off.

Unless you are into twinks, Peter had zero appeal. Compare it to DH and Jesse Metcalfe.

Chris Atkins had moved full speed into his twank era.

I mean, I think the fact that Chris Atkins looked the way he did was intentional - Peter was never meant to represent a real threat to JR and if anything it became more sleazy because Atkins looked like a boy. They could've easily hired a 23-year old 6'3 stud, but then people might've actually taken the romance seriously.

To be fair, Capitol had a very cushy time slot plus is a clear "hammock" despite being in the middle of the ratings pack (ie it slumps between As the World Turns and Guiding Light. The only real option for it to survive was to retain ATWT/GL's ratings - and even then CBS would've had to move it to make room for B&B.

Well, at least Emily O'Brien is a better actor than Rob Wilson so at least she's hopefully going to be able to convey she's a different character.

I said it when Abby "died" and I'll say it again - she'll show up at Stephanie and Chad's wedding with a baby in tow.

From recent interviews Linda's sounds and moves around fine. She's just on the thin side and at that age it makes you look more frail than you are.

10 hours ago, YRBB said:

Generally speaking, I think YouTube is probably the best option for this sort of thing - just like Bold is doing. Anything they can make from monetizing is more than the episodes make now. That being said, if the library isn't digitized, the cost of that could potentially never be made back (and probably wouldn't).

Yes, which is why I feel that it has to start with a preservation project at the very least to begin with - like, I could see Corday potentially digitizing DAYS as an example to preserve it, but the starting point can't probably be because anyone thinks it'll be financially rewarding. 

I'd assume the audience size in Canada might not have made it financially possible to produce a long-running daytime soap, especially with part of the country being French-speaking? I'm guessing that's why attempts to produce soaps like Strange Paradise were syndicated in the US.

Paradise Falls is on YouTube at least...

8 hours ago, j swift said:

BTW, given Belle's history of being sold on the black market, she's not a good candidate to work as Eric's adoption attorney (too traumatic while her husband is hitting rock bottom).  Although it is nuts that Salem is so small that you could be a prosecutor one day, and an adoption attorney the next. 

These sort of things always cracks me up on soaps - not like attorneys tend to specialise in certain sections of the law or something, same thing with doctors. Not that I'm complaining really since it gives characters stuff to do, plus the budget isn't there to hire more people anyway.

The 2004 version of Gramercy Park:

9 hours ago, beebs said:

It was, and...yeah. For all the hype it was supposed to give them, it essentially amounted to a few weeks above 3.0 and that's it? Kinda sad, really.

The lack of clearances really did ultimately kill a lot of these soaps - it's sort of something you rarely think about, but with only a 77% clearing rate it really puts it at a huge disadvantage. I'd assume that once Oprah goes national and then the 90s wave of sassy ladies talk shows, the clearing for the bottom soaps must've gotten even worse.

111 Gramercy Park is also on that channel:

It was an attempt at a prime time soap by ABC that had two attempts at a pilot - a 2003 one and a 2004 one; ultimately, ABC didn't go with either, but it's obvious that ABC was looking for prime time soaps at that point (and eventually found one in Desperate Housewives).

On 9/21/2023 at 7:17 PM, danfling said:

When this storyline began in late 1966 and spread over into 1967, the show was not producing storylines that extensively used supernatural elements.   The Laura Collins storyline excited the show's viewers, and, by the time it had concluded and the vampire storyline was introduced, more supernatural elements were allowed.

Yeah, they definitively played the OG Laura storyline with slightly more ambigious - obviously, once they introduced Barnabus they'd decided to go full-on supernatural (though arguably, even early on in that storyline they did keep some things a bit vague in case they needed to backtrack). 

This is great! The fact that these old episodes are still being found gives me hope that a lot more are out there.

Their new album will be out in early 2024 on BMG (aka Kylie, Steps' etc label).

On 9/18/2023 at 4:04 AM, j swift said:

Yet, a huge percentage of Salem's teenagers were educated abroad, but none are fluent in a foreign language.

Hey now, Johnny throws around a few italian phrases here and there!

1 hour ago, divinemotion said:

This will happen one day... I believe it. Bold is the first that is streaming now nearly 2000 episodes and going forward.

The big issue is that those other soaps aren't digitized and that takes a lot of time and money to do; I suspect the reason why Bold is on streaming is because the Bells just kept up with the technology and probably had it digitized early (especially as they sold it in reruns to some countries in the past).

If someone decides to digitize the archives that remains then *maybe* I could see it happening on some form of FAST service, but it would be more of a passion/preservation project and there are so many (shorter) tv shows and movies that it would take a long time before they came around to the soap archives.

Sydney really better be the child Sami deserves.

19 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I do wonder about the primetime soap holdouts (or in this case, holdout). Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, Melrose Place, Beverly Hills 90210, The O.C., and even Titans are all streaming but no Knots, for instance. And that’s the show I’d want to watch the most of all of the above,

Well according to @Errol they're working on it - but lots of episodes and I'm sure they're either looking to license or replace some of the music. I assume they also are looking if they can sell it somewhere (ie IMDBTV or whatever it's called now) or put it on their own platforms.