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I would agree with this. I think Denise is problematic as a HW. I'm not sure she would have lasted next year because of her need to control the narrative. And let's face it, the Aaron stuff is a little bit crazy! OTOH, all the other HWs on BH are basically running production, and that's the problem. They have too much power because they can shut sh*t down and get things re-edited (or edited out) the way THEY want. If there is one person who isn't necessarily doing that, it is Garcelle. She knows production did her dirty by cutting some of her stuff which would have contextualized certain situations. That's why she wearily gave one-word answers this reunion. She feels used and she is over it. Similarly, I would argue that Denise blatantly lying at reunion -- and doesn't care who knows it -- is because she is done with production's agenda against her. So she is turning the tables on the whole system. I feel like I am Team Denise partly by default. The Coven are acting like sleeping with Brandi and not 'owning up' to it is akin to the Watergate cover-up. It is not. That is why the entire viewing audience absolutely despise them. I'm not sure if Bravo realise but what happened with BH this season and production's hand having been exposed... it's in danger of killing the RH franchises.

Right. The final 7 seconds of next week's episode will be the screen going black, somebody shouting "No no no!" and Karen going "MO-NIQUE!!!!"

I trust the 'millions of dollars in debt' are spread across LVP's financial partners and not just left at her door. Nevertheless, I think she will have difficulty recouping her losses from these restaurants-- unless Vanderpump Dogs gets picked up as a series and becomes a ratings winner. That's a big ask. As for the PPP, my understanding is that it wasn't just about wage-support but also covered loans to small businesses. Sounds like SUR is the only restaurant left standing but with VPR likely ending, I honestly cannot see LVP or Ken holding onto the restaurant business. I suspect Villa Rosa will be put on the market to pay those debts quickly and then the Vanderpump-Todds head into semi-retirement. Maybe even back to France. I hope she is OK financially and that she has Villa Rosa and other investments as assets she can fall back on.

Yeah, I remember the big one glass and the "just one" comment earlier this season. But the other two were actually relevant and dramatic scenes and no reason they should have been cut.

I can't do it either. When Teddi LECTURED Garcelle that she should have pulled Rinna aside instead of putting her on blast in front of the group, I thought I was going to have an aneurysm. Isn't that what the Sanctimonious Pregnant One should have done with Denise? Honestly, I can't deal with the hypocrisy and the passive-aggression. I too am inclined to believe that BAT has been asked back for her FOURTH SEASON (read that and weep). Because Bravo devoted a good +10 mins of this week's episode to Teddi talking about: -being pregnant -being boring and pregnant -"Edwin didn't like the name Dove until he realized it was an emoji!" -One of the kiddos got a finger sliced off. -Did you know that a sliced-off finger should NOT be put on ice? Now you know. -Denise talked behind my back, you guys! x 12 This Dorit story does not surprise me at all. Dorit always lands on her feet, and the fact that she is on vacation with Vyle illustrates to me just how fake and scripted this entire season has been. Also, bless your heart for sweetly thinking Mauricio is selling Dorit's house! What he is actually doing is selling Sam Nazarian's house. Dorit is merely a renter. RHONY: FANTASTIC reunion thus far. I think meeting up face-to-face helped with that (even though the rug decor was horrific). I admit it. Seeing Tinsley there, the RHONY group felt complete. She was fearless and confident and funny and it was the Tinsley I always hoped to see on the show itself. That BOMB she dropped about John was truly jaw-dropping. It's not like last season was stellar either, and this would have driven so much drama! Dorinda going gangster at John over the phone! Financial impropriety! Dorinda going beserk at Tinsley and production having to step in to protect her! This was drama for the ages, and Lord knows why production left that God-given opportunity on the cutting room floor, but it was to the show's detriment. Last night showed what could have been, and I am blaming both Dorinda (who obviously pulled rank not to have this aired) and Bravo for hiding this juicy gossip. Sonja mentioned Ellen Barkin and suddenly all I want is Ellen Barkin on RHONY.

Yep. RHOBH has been a wonderful stepping stone for Garcelle and Denise. If they stay too long, they will atrophy and start giving their wig names like 'Heidi.' Acting and creating characters is more their bag. I would love nothing more than to watch Denise, Garcelle, Sutton and Dorit swan around LA next year, but it is not to be while the Coven claw for dear life at their dwindling Bravo paycheck. Re: Kelly Dodd, I have a horrible feeling that Bravo thinks she is the 'future' of the show. I can only hope she gets called out on her vile comments about Covid and other things.

Not his type? More like he is not your type. Lack of substance is such a cruel flaw to have. It basically means you are Kyle Richards Lisa Rinna.

lol and Denise was all "... Yeah... where is Brandi?" OC update: So when the trailer for RHOC was released, I was surprised how little there was of Kelly Dodd running her mouth ("We need to thin the herd" etc). In the trailer it was all 'La la la, Kelly found her Fox News soulmate and is planning her dream wedding!' Welp, turns out that, from what Peggy Sulahian posted below, production have been covering for Kelly for some time now. I wouldn't mind if this was the season Kelly gets called out on her nastiness and sent on her way.

Woah Bethenny! Was that shade on Vyle? Or Bravo?

If Garcelle wants to continue her career, she should drop BH. I hate to say it because I really love her and she keeps me watching the show. But BH is now toxic as a brand. Who on earth is going to join the show with that cast? No one enjoys being a target. No one trusts any of The Coven. Does Rinna have any friends left to invite on the show? Do Erika and Vyle?? Allegedly, Bravo made numerous offers to Kathy Hilton to join the show -- she turned them down each time. Kyle's own sister! She knows the score. Faye did not speak well of production after her extended stints on S3 and S6. I'd be stunned if Kris 'I want EP and creative control' Jenner joined. The only peeps begging to come back are Brandi and BAT. The Denise news has deflated me. The Coven wins again, but IMO their win is the death-knell for BH. Humorless wench. I am so over her! What on earth has she contributed to BH? Hours of mind-numbing glam (which we allllll had to sit through for 5 straight seasons) just to hit up Starbucks? 3 weeks on Broadway before it was shut down? Performative outfit-wearing is not a life, nor is it an actual personality. Denise gave us crazy Aaron, her family and put Vyle in her damn place. She carried the show. Erika is currently on a par with BAT in terms of utter uselessness. Some of the responses to her Tweet are amazing

I am stunned. This whole photo is giving me Tokyo Toni vibes! She is gorgeous but she urgently -- URGENTLY -- needs a full makeover. We're at critical point here.

The BUDGETNESS of this entire look. Right down to the plywood floor! I mean, her body looks fine but that crunchy looking wig needs to be set on fire.

Is anybody with any ounce of power in DC going to do something about Trump and Barr and this lawsuit? Or are people so deferential of presidential power that they let these crooks ride roughshod over US laws and steal out of the taxpayers' pocket? Both Barr and Trump need to be in jail. Trump, with all his 'billions' cannot afford to pay lawyers for his own lawsuits? Doesn't the orange godfodda have a consigliere? Can Roy Cohn be raised from his grave vampire-styles and take over this lawsuit from Barr? Taxpayer's money!!!! Isn't that a Faux News mantra? The Dems need to beat this drum hard (but they won't). Even most of Trump's core base love their money more than they love him.

I live here too and I feel like it's me and some little old lady on busy streets or buses who are the only ones WEARING THE DAMN MASKS. My GP recently told me he felt a second wave was on its way this autumn and we could have another lockdown. Given that France has about 8,000 cases a day now, I have to imagine we are coming up close behind. Back in mid-March, we were about 10 days behind France's trajectory. Dont get me started on the 'world-beating' testing system sending Londoners to Inverness for a nose swab. The cynical part of me wonders if it has been set up to be purposely the case, so as to under-count totals. (Nevermind that the world already knows the UK is a hot mess when it comes to this pandemic, not to mention Brexit). However, given how naturally incompetent and non-forward-thinking this government of no-talents is, I'm of the mind that the testing system floundered of its own accord. Because nobody could be bothered to investigate first how another country (like, say, South Korea) might be doing it right. And this is why I love Eric Braeden. God bless him for adding that exclamation point! Because every Tweet he makes! Has! An! Exclamation! Point! This story about some 'influencer' showing up in Rwanda and getting quarantined made me feel oddly better. https://dlisted.com/2020/09/08/an-influencer-cried-about-getting-quarantined-in-rwanda-after-testing-positive-for-covid-19/ "TikTok influencer Charly Jordan recently documented an incredibly harrowing experience of testing positive for COVID-19 while vacationing in Rwanda wherein she was forced to spend 4 days in a 3-star hotel room. She was deprived of food (she liked), separated from her fellow TikTokers, and worst of all, she was left with only her own deep thoughts for company. Charly used the time to evaluate her life choices, from the spelling of her name to how her dogged reliance on external validation has contributed to society’s decline into performative living and a general decrease in self-esteem and individualism as well as her own mental health. Haha, got you, this dingus got on Tik Tok and cried a million albino crocodile tears about how unfairly she was treated."

Twitter is on fire with these tweets about Kris Jenner

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She is a really big name, wow. I'm sort of shocked she is doing Daytime, but hey in these tough times, rent is rent.

Hey! I still follow! Thanks for the cookies. I do enjoy Blackpink and their music (although it is increasingly clear that these girls are models hired to sell brands influencer-styles first and foremost. I do appreciate Jennie and Lisa's rapping talents, though). This week I have been all about this song by Super M -- Tiger Inside. Two of my EXO faves are in Super M. That said, I haven't been crazy about their song releases -- until now. I'm linking to the dance practice because I love DPs. The mv is very easy to find though.

Yeah, those ratings are terrible and have been for a long time. The show itself has been a snooze for a while, with lots of glam squad filler which I daresay is also bringing down BH. Nevertheless, it was a game changer way back when. Kim was the original Influemcer, but people have been turning against that influencer culture for a while, especially this year. I have no doubt the Kardashians will survive without E! The question is will E! survive without them? Totally agree that the network has no clue what it wants to be. With the exception of like two other shows on the network, the majority of its reality shows have been one-hit failures, cancelled after a poor first season. The cancellation of E! News was a shock because I actually thought that was one of their better products. It was also their anchor show. Feels like a rebranding and pivot is in the works, but im not sure to what.

Shocked and yet not shocked at all. I imagine all their brand promotions are thriving online so that is where they shall be.

Potomac: Props to the editing team for giving T'Challa subtitles. "Trick." 😄 And the HWs on this show are legitimately funny. That pageant with Adjley's torn butthole and Candiace's height as subjects of the Q&A! Personally I thought Ashley should have won! Ashley seems to get pregnant every time Michael has a sex scandal. Diversion tactic! I saw on Twitter someone saying that Jamal Bryant looks like R.Kelly. And now I can't unsee. BH: The news about PK and Dorit listing their Encino spread makes me think a divorce is in the works. Kris Jenner has all the power on Keeping Up with the Kardashians. She is the first listed EP on that show. She would never ~ever~ give up that control over her image to Bravo. LOL @ "You chose Teddi. You keep Teddi." 😄 Words for Kyle to live by.

Totally agree about the straw the stirs the drink! She has become the narrator/Greek chorus of this show in a way. Agreed. Even though Dorinda loves being a RH and the perks it affords her, she also has her own money, her own homes, friends who will stick by her (Trinny, Luke, La Stanbury, the RHOS chick, and whatever I may say about Bethenny and Carole's faults, I think they are supportive of her over and above the show). She is brainy and has many interests. After mourning this loss, she will move onto other things. Indeed, she just announced on Instagram a book deal she has signed with Simon & Schuster. Don't know whether this is a lifestyle book or her life story, but the cover pic looks good.

@DynamiteKiddo Same. I am sad about it. What a way to end. She offered a lot to RHONY. The Berkshires! Not well, bitch! I was also hoping her friendship with Caroline Stanbury of Ladies of London would bring La Stanbury to the show. She hasn't burned every bridge. I think with a little time away and self-reflection, she could be back, if she wants to. By that point, though, I don't think she will want to return.

I think you mean the fabulousness that is ALEX PERRY -- fashion designer, Australia's Next Top Model judge, and Real Housewives host. Here he is threatening to stab himself in the eye with a fork because two women wouldn't stop screeching at each other. I have always enjoyed his bluntness. ETA: Yes, he's wearing sunglasses indoors.

I enjoy Wendy Williams' show but she is a bad interviewer. And that's with the guests she actually knows. Even with Hot Topics, Wendy needs her producer Norm to fill her in on what's going on. Wendy is self-absorbed and messy and has had a lot of drama in her life. As a result, she would be better suited to being an actual HW herself (she would never, though. She doesn't want to reveal her private life). Kathy Griffin is a good suggestion as I imagine she watches these shows. She would have to be in Interviewer Mode, though, and not in Let's Talk About Me Mode. The one good thing about Andy at these Reunions is that he doesn't make it about him all that often and basically leaves the women to talk. I do agree his bias is so problematic, though -- he gave Kyle total control of the narrative in the Kyle-Garcelle discussion so that she could sing her fave song "You're So F*cking Mean." 😬 I didn't feel it was as terrible as Dorinda has been in the past...? I mean, yes, Dorinda looked awful ranting and raving about somebody who has already left the show. Literally, I thought they were going to walk Tinsley out as a surprise cameo. However, I understand where Dorinda is coming from. Tinsley chose to break her contract and leave. The other RHONY women are there. Dorinda feels she is under threat because of her age, and Tinsley is the demo that Bravo prefers and wishes was back on the show. IMO, Leah more than makes up for Tinsley not being there. She is far more interesting and pro-active, for a start. I know people on this thread love The Tinsler, but for me, it was four seasons of nothingburger SLs (SCOTT). Tinsley does not have enough of a personality to make a truly interesting HW -- that's why they had to bring Dale out. And yet Bravo really want somebody like her to anchor RHONY. Of course Dorinda is jealous. Of course Dorinda is worried about her own job security. She feels resentful that Tinsley (in her eyes) is being rewarded for not showing up and breaching her contract, and all because Tinsley is young and pretty and pliable. It was a sweet finale to RHONY, despite the final 2 mins. I love the friendships between all the women. Sonja asking Leah to be her workout mate was touching, even though it was about promoting this fitness app (!!). Viva La Diva is now locked into my brain. The best disco songs are the ones sung non-ironically, and Luann basically thinks she is Donna Summer/Barbra Streisand about launch into Enough Is Enough. I'm relieved (as I'm sure the rest of the cast was) that the cabaret show was NOT the finale. We've seen it enough. Ramona is such a Trumper. I don't want to give any RH attention to 'the administration' (as DT's gaggle of dangerous and incompetent sycophants are now called). But I sort of wish the Bravo cameras had been there when Ramona and Kimberly Guilfoyle partied in the Hamptons and KG caught the coronavirus.