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Did you catch the snippet about Rinna being on Andy's radio show saying that the new 'young' girls should take over from the 'old' ones on BH? Three guesses who she wants to get rid of. I think she truly counts herself in the young, fresh, newbie category. Gosh, I can't wait to see S9 BH and more of Rinna getting her ladyparts waxed/pushing her under-talented daughters on us! Rinna also seemed a little in that video by the resumption of the Dorit-Kyle-LVP friendship. Rinna despises LVP and it has hardened into something Brandi-esque. LVP throws her digs back but is facing a barrage of them this season. Sigh, I don't know why I even care anymore. I think they should all get pink-slipped at this point.

I guess Bravo still thinks BH is A-OK

90 min episode? You are being generous! 60 mins is more than enough, with the first half = the Berlin Zoo, and the second half = Dorit's fashion line which I trust we will never see again. OC last season was literally THE WORST, and ATL has lost its way, but BH is in its final throes. These women are bored by each other and the show. Rinna's hate-obsession with LVP mirrors Carole hiding behind more powerful friends and throwing daggers from the safety of her VTs. As usual, UnORinnaGinal stays copying other HWs' playbooks! Erika is just awful and more unpopular than Bravo cares to admit. The show's relationships have not recovered since Munchausen season. As you say, these women pander to the audience; more than that, they try to manipulate them with fakery and role-playing. Watching this alongside S2 BH (arguably its best, most organic season) is jarring. Unless Joan Collins and the ghost of Jackie Collins join next year as season regulars to confirm that, yes, LVP is indeed the lost Collins sister, then BH needs to be put out of its misery. If they want to do a Real Housewives of Brentwood with Faye Resnick and Kathryn Edwards warily finding common ground within a group of female friends, then I would watch, but I know I am in a party of 1 with that idea lol.

Wow. Dorit and Kyle look absolutely beautiful makeup-free.

I'm not sure? TT said Luke somebody so I'm guessing Luke Neslage who is credited as one of the EPs. It was AMAZING! I just caught up on it on YouTube.

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Tamara Tattles indicated something interesting in passing about this season's RHOA, which was that Michael Beck started out as EP but Bravo realized he was out of his depth as filming progressed. (Personally, I wonder if it wasn't Kim's first appearance at Nene's white party when she screamed "Michael! Michael!" during a fight with Kenya that changed things. The fact that she was ordering the EP around must have unsettled the other HWs who figured he was there to do Kim's bidding). Anyway, Bravo drafted in another EP to help steer the ship. However, because this season did not perform well ratings-wise (the jury is still out on Reunion ratings), looks like this other EP will take the fall for it. Beck will avoid the chop, but it remains to be seen if he will be back on RHOA where I don't think he is a good fit. I'm not sure what to make of Beck being joined at the hip with KZB, but given that Kim won't be returning, maybe Beck got a dressing-down by Bravo, too, and they are commiserating?

She needs to sue the nail technician 'doctor' who gave her and Brielle those lips. It looks like they injected cement in there and now there is an allergic reaction. It's sad that she has destroyed her looks, she was pretty in her blousy, wig-wearing way of the early seasons! Somebody already mentioned on this thread that it would be interesting if there was a HW SL about addiction to plastic surgery, to the point of having to correct bad surgery. Not that I want Kim to return to RHOA or anything, but she would be a natural for a SL like this. However, Kim is so wedded to the Barbie/Kardashian-beauty ideal that she honestly does not think she looks bad at all. She's always been delusional that way. It's too bad she doesn't have people around her who feel they can point out a mistake like this, but Kim never liked criticism, even if it was constructive.

Agreed on Gizelle. I notice that whenever Andy fawns over a HW and hypes her up, that HW usually (though not always -- see Margaret) tends to be petty, mean and quite hollow and vapid. Andy is all about the surface, as he admits. Erika is one of his faves, so is Melissa, and, astoundingly, Gizelle is another. I never understood why he is so crazy about Gizelle when all her 'reads' and VTs sound scripted and over-rehearsed. There are much more witty and compelling people on RHOP imo. Gizelle is someone who has coasted on her Vanessa Williams-esque looks but not done much else (unlike the hard-working, smart and empathetic Ms. Williams who rebuilt her acting career from the ground up when she hit her late 40s). Clearly Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley will keep coming for Karen now that Charrisse isn't there to do their dirty work. It makes me laugh at the hypocrisy considering their own situations. Ray Huger is in hot water with the IRS, and Karen is obviously trying to save face, and it is arguably the most riveting story on Potomac this season. But Karen and Ray separating their finances and tax returns was long-term smart. Robyn is trying to make the separate tax returns a shady issue, like why would you file separately when you get a modest write-off to file jointly? But Robyn is clearly v short-term in her approach to money since she is already spending Juan's paycheck before he even got it. Karen and Ray were likely advised by their financial adviser years ago to file separately -- as I myself have been advised to do in the past. The whole convo underscores just how dependent Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley are on their men to provide them with even basic living expenses. The Hugers are in financial difficulties but Karen still has some income she can call her own and not have to ask Ray for. This is AMAZING. Kandi shut her down and nailed the trap door shut just as surely as she will on ATL next week. I especially love how Kandi pointed out that Tardy is not pulling in the ratings it once did and, by implication, its future is in question. Indeed, that is the reason why Kim did S10 of ATL in the first place. Her lazy ass would never have bothered unless she felt she had to land another show before Tardy is cancelled. If Tardy gets yet another season or two, Kim can thank another predominately AA show, M2M, which helped to bring in new viewers and demos for that entire Friday evening death slot.

I made a mistake. Mama Joyce actually says "The streets have been talking" ! Like @DRW50 and @DaytimeFan I don't get the Eva hype either. She's pretty but blah to me. Nene is apparently celebrating by referring to Kim and Sheree as 'Smokey and the bandit.'

Not just a different person -- a different gender! Cheap got this great shot. She literally looks like a man whose child put make-up and a scraggly wig on him while he was sleeping. And I think Sonja is gorgeous 99.9% of the time! lol I beg to differ -- Miss Skinnygirl herself loves to hit the bottle -- it's just that she plies her co-stars with alcohol, too, so that she looks better in comparison (because Sonja and Dorinda cannot handle their booze). Exhibit A: Mexico last year. Also, the streets are sayin [(c) Mama Joyce] that Carole gets stoned. Often. Like her close friend Andy Cohen. I too sort of hope Dorinda keeps slurring and CLIPping (in a healthy, high-functioning way of course). Selfish, I know, but she's a lot of fun both sober and sauced.

Absolutely! She is showing us more than she ever has. Carole is actually vaguely relevant this season. No more watching her kittens ( or "ki--ins") rip up Lee Radziwill's mid-century couch. No more hipstery man-bun boyfriend breathing through his mouth. No more vegan-couples cookbook that no publishing house wants. She's had a face lift, fillers, chopped her hair, dyed it an awful blonde, and is trying to get in shape. She's being awful to Luann? LOL karma will get her this season. Luann is popular, and that's why Bethenny has migrated to Lu's side. I'm going to enjoy openly-villainous Carole instead of the bully's sidekick who hid behind her more powerful friends throwing daggers. As for Tinsley, there is only one reason she came back, and that is Mr. Coupon Cabin himself, Scott Kluth. The Unicorn [(c) @DaytimeFan ]. She had a good thing with this amazing guy and now it seems to have gone south. Personally, I would rather Tinsley's mother Dale (Dayyyyle) was a HW than Tinsley:

NYC! Carole being the season villain and breaking up with Bethenny is the most relevant she has been in over three years. I am going to enjoy hating on her and Tinsley. Still, having to put up with Bethenny all this time couldn't have been easy. Bethenny is a b!tch to all these women and thank god at least Ramona stands up to her. Ramona as Britney Spears (Ooops I Did It Again era) was the best costume at Dorinda's Hallowe'en party. I was horrified when I saw Sonja's talking head. WHO applied that make-up on her? Rocco? She looked like a straight man in a Marilyn Monroe costume. Seeing Luann in her Diana Ross costume was uncomfortable, although I don't think it came from a malicious place. She did look an awful lot like Rachel Dolezal, however.

How did she respond? ETA: Found it! http://twitter.com/AllCelebPolls/status/968508705133289472 I love that she answered for herself! She's the best! I think the "2" she is referring to are Faye and Erika. She also said she would never return: http://twitter.com/_KathrynEdwards/status/976302914682568704 And it was Erika and Eileen apparently. Wow. She spoke the truth about Erika with this one: http://twitter.com/_KathrynEdwards/status/970055563319984128 KathrynEdwards Mar 3 Cuz she was given a pass by EVERYONE on her language, lack of underwear (yes, even back then) & lack of respect 2 all, including crew. She spends a ton of $, that goes far. She sure cleaned up her mouth after her first season. Has she called anyone an F’in C___ again?Not my fav

I like Lu's the best. And ITA about Michael Rappaport. He's always trying to make himself 'be seen' with this RH obsession. The monkey pic alongside Kenya's was especially egregious. How can anybody think that kind of 'joking' is ok? I sort of wish Tinsley wasn't part of this cast. I find her a weak link. Don't hate me lol. This is what I've been saying!!!! How is Robyn buying her kids all those team items (that sh*t gets expensive) AND looking for a bigger place? Juan is only coaching at a state college. That's middle income AT BEST, not the big leagues. He could be fired at any time, and he could hook up with a rich lady and leave her ass for real at any time. She needs to sit on that rental in Hanover, pay off some debts, bank that Bravo cheque, put away some savings (even though she's probably banking on her kids getting full sports scholarships for college) and keep her head down money-wise. And she DEFINITELY shouldn't look down at the Hugers' IRS troubles because we know the IRS gets its best info from the RH. I'll bet they are sniffing around her and Juan's finances. Early RHOA is so good. I watched Seasons 1-3 not so long ago. S1 ATL is the best first season of any franchise. I LMAO at delulu Kim thinking she was a country singer and the recording engineer at the studio literally wincing when she started to sing and turning down the volume! Nene's story about her mom and finding her biological father was very affecting too. Kandi was a great addition. I did like Lisa Wu a lot, but I also thought Phaedra (her replacement) was better. She was shady (verbally and financially) from the start. I would have liked to see Lisa come back, though. She eventually divorced Ed which I was always sad about because they seemed genuinely into each other and had a strong bond. For some reason, I actually believed they had crossed paths before, lol. Just the way she was teasing Rinna about being thin. I'm so gullible! But then again I loved Kathryn and think Bravo was too hasty to fire her. She had chemistry with a lot of the cast.

I would agree. Dorinda is the best recent addition to any RH show because it was such an organic choice. Sonja, Ramona and Luann all recommended her after knowing for a number of years. It makes a change from OC Meghan (shudder) pretending to know Kelly Dodd when it is clear they've never laid eyes on each other and have zero in common. Even BH Dorit said she'd only met LVP briefly before filming started. I have seen pics of Margaret hanging out with Teresa, Melissa, Dolores and Danielle off-season so in a sense NJ has that bond -- sometimes.

Candiace seems very feisty and outgoing. It's a love-match with her and Monique! Now you know I love Karen, but she is clearly putting up a front for the ladies and the audience. She is trying to save face. Looking back on the episode, it struck me how empty that big ole Great Falls mansion was. It reminded me of Teresa Giudice's McMansion after she and Joe had to sell off half the furnishings. I noticed in the season teaser that nosy-parkers Gizelle and Ashley dress up as pizza deliverymen and ring the doorbell and the place seems totally empty. Do you think this mansion is staged for the cameras and that Karen and Ray live somewhere else (somewhere smaller)? That place looks way too big for the two of them and, frankly, beyond their current means and circumstances. Also when Ray was talking to Karen on-camera about the tax lien, it seemed to be the first conversation they had in days.

@Nothin'ButAttitude Saw Kenya on WWHL. T H I S is the Kenya have been waiting for all season -- nay, for two seasons! First of all, she looked PHENOMENAL. That hair, that dress, those legs, those shoes, her makeup -- she was legit stunning. I noticed she kept her stomach well hidden. But best of all was the way she shaded Michael Rappaport so effortlessly, without breaking a sweat. She left him bumbling, dazed and confused. I had to look up exactly what their beef was about, and it was way back when Porsha physically attacked Kenya at Reunion, and MR supported Porsha for doing so. Because Kenya is "the villain," according to him. So I applaud her for standing her ground on that issue. Andy was so shady for booking the two together. But I think it was clear to him by the end why Kenya should be back next season. She had Andy and the audience and even M-m-m-Michael in the palm of her hand by the end of that show. ATL There wasn't much for me to comment on this episode -- as has been the case all season. The execution this year has been woeful. I think Nene & Greg as Exterminator & Roach should have won 1st prize. Eva Marcille is still meh to me. She looked beautiful in her Cleopatra costume but her voice doesn't stand out and isn't distinctive. If anything, she sounds whiny and nasally. I don't know why that bugs me but it does. You can't shade properly with that Valley whine. POTOMAC The show I have been waiting for ALL WEEK! Even though Bravo had already put up three-quarters of the episode on YouTube. First of all, this says everything about Karen and why I love her: She is totally delulu but her and her story still dominates and drives this show. She is the OG as far as I am concerned. I was anticipating her lunch with pea-brained Robyn who foolishly thought she was going to speak truth to power. LMAO! Robyn who lets her trifling ex cheat on her but climb back into bed on Sundays. And she proudly admitted it in tonight's episode! Robyn is so weak. She actually thinks this is some kind of reward. And WTG spending all of Juan's new coaching cheque and moving into a bigger place. What happened to settling your debts first?? Speaking of debts, I was honestly dumbfounded that it didn't occur to the other women that Karen files separate tax statements from her husband and his business. Because I'm pretty sure some of these ladies (side-eyes Gizelle, Robyn, Charrisse) have done some murky IRS sh*t! I have been filing my own tax returns since I left college and started working. These girls are true dependants in the worst case of the word. How have they never kept a little savings or trading account for themselves and declared it as a separate entity? Karen has the right idea to keep her money and the BBG's separate. How messy would it have been if the BBG was giving Karen a household allowance out of his own company's piggybank? All of them are going after Karen to an extent, but seeing Cha-Cha-Charrisse there, bobbing her Cleopatra wig as she tried to elbow her way into the camera's eyeline was the worst. She's so eager to milk Karen's hard times because it makes her feel better about her own unpaid-champagne-room situation. I keep forgetting Monique is on the show. Ooops. So glad this show has started tho!! I am excited for the season.

Ahmagah Are Bravo going to spoil the entire episode before it airs??

RHONY are hitting the ground running. Dealing with the divorce right off the bat, but in a way that feels familiar and comforting -- at Dorinda's home over tea and food. Dorinda did the same thing with Ramona after her divorce in S7. In fact, that scene was her introduction to the show. Luann looks good in her VT.

Kim's lips are OUT. OF. C O N T R O L. Wtf is Porsha doing wearing a tiara? She thinks she's Meghan Markle now? I do love her dress though. As @Chris B said, they are the best-dressed Reunion crowd, and it has been that way year after year. Eva 'threatening' to go into labor was so meh. And Sheree calling up Prison Bae so he could say those things about Nene was even more meh. Bravo is not letting it slip if Kenya is preggers or not... but her face does look more filled out.

I know! It's really noticeable between the BH teaser and the two Potomac ones, which show is the more gripping and compelling. Potomac doesn't have the blingy wealth, but like M2M it does have women who are going through something real and have a bond with each other, and some measure of empathy. I remember last season's reunion and the audible gasp when Ashley admitted she and Michael had separated. Gizelle was especially affected, maybe she saw something of her own marriage breakup in that news. At any rate, I like that it has brought the two of them closer together and they can lean on each other a little bit. This is a better look for Gizelle. I am looking forward to liking her more this season!

And here's a sneak peak at the first ep of S3 Potomac: