KLN

On 4/15/2023 at 1:51 PM, Errol said:

What kind of overhaul? Seriously. Honest question. What exactly do you think Toups or I could do better when moderating the board? Neither of us can read every single post. When we receive reported posts (which are VERY rare), we handle them as quickly as possible and to the best of our abilities when judging the context of what was reported.

If you want us to become Twitter, Facebook or any other social media platform that polices posts by constantly warning members over some of the things they've posted, you'd be surprised who would be impacted by all that.

I've said it in the past, and I'll repeat it again, having to baby posters and tell them they are not being nice to each other isn't worth my time. I have so many things to do when it comes to this website that I should have a staff of 20, but no amount of revenue generated by this site can afford to pay a single person.

Additionally, people trashing the board means nothing to me. Why? Because if I gave a damn what people had to say about SON, I'd be a fool to keep it up and running. Seems I have thicker skin than most. People, including yourself (re-read your post), can say all they want about SON and the SON Community but continue posting because I don't believe in silencing opinions. Especially those I disagree with.

As for games, there isn't one being played. At least not by me and not by Toups. All we ever wanted for this place was a forum for people to discuss their love for soaps, past and present, openly. We want people to talk about their favorite storylines, favorite actors, worst plot devices, best and worst couples, worst soap, best soap, etc. We also welcome disagreements on said topics as debates are an ideal reason for a discussion forum. 

Instead, one of the ONLY forums still in existence today that provides people of all ages and backgrounds the ability to discuss all things soaps (among other topics), and not just some random couple or other single-topic fandoms, is constantly being demoralized because people want to get rid of posters they don't agree with or don't like because of something they said. More importantly, people get up in their feelings and start attacking each other over nonsense. And people expect me to come in and break up a pathetic fight from said verbal attacks? I then have to decide who to ban. Who to warn? Why? Twitter and Facebook don't do that? Why should I have to?

Don't like what someone has to say? Ignore them. You can't do that? Not my problem.

To add:

My comments are not meant to hurt anyone or make them feel less than others. I'm stating my opinion openly, for the first time in 20 years since running this place, with absolutely no compensation from anyone who dares complain about how it's run. 

When we introduce advertisements to pay for the server. Complaints. When we have over a dozen moderators, it creates drama among members vs. moderators and that leads to the creation of other forums (which won't be named here). There are complaints when we try to be hands-off and let people handle themselves like adults.

There are days I question whether to keep it up and running, and today is definitely one of them. Maybe I should let it all blow up and burn down. Won't bother me.

I appreciate you and this forum, Errol.

12 hours ago, janea4old said:

Nadia is still taping.

Thanks.

I heard she was leaving but I hadn't heard anything beyond that.

Maybe she's leaving and hasn't finished taping yet or maybe she isn't leaving, but I heard she's leaving.

6 hours ago, janea4old said:

just an fyi, that screengrab was first posted at DR. [link]  Other sites picked it up shortly thereafter.

I'm not surprised. They're sleuths at DR lol.

I saw it on Twitter and cropped it for here.

Well... you got me for a second lol.

I sighed and thought "I hope they enjoy smirking at funerals" then realized they'd have to de-age Lucky and it all fell apart lol.

22 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

I think Stormy Daniels has done better work than her. 

Can we call it a draw?

On 3/30/2023 at 12:00 PM, Soapsuds said:

Jessica Serfaty(Sloan) out!!

Gutted by this!

Jessica has SUCH charisma and screen presence. She's like a soapy Janelle Pierzina, I just love her.

B&B should sign her to play Phoebe!

I'm sure you all saw the latest.

52 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

Faux Eve was abrasive, hard, cold...

Super strange considering KDP's previous work.

Kassie was miscast as Eve but I thought she did great work when Paige was murdered. That breakdown in Eve's apartment was wrenching.

5 hours ago, dio said:

wait, really? That's a pretty huge get (imo)! I thought she was pretty set w/ all those GAC movies. I always loved her/thought she was a very charismatic and great actress that managed to be sympathetic even when she was being the worst (lol) and it was such a boneheaded move that GH never locked her down before DAYS scooped her up. I personally thought it was a big loss for the show when she left. My interest is def. piqued. 

I'm guessing it's a limited arc return.

I saw this recently too. It would be fun to see nurse Anne with Eve.

6 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

@KLN Are you sure they are gone for good?

Jack and Jennifer? No clue.

If Eve is back there might be a bit of a Donovan family reunion because Jen Lilley (Theresa) is back too, according to reports.

I hated Theresa but it makes sense to bring her back with Chloe leaving. Brady/Kristen need a spoiler and Tate is a great tool. I was expecting it.

It's too bad Jack and Jennifer left because Eve could've come back to town with Peter Blake.

No shade to Kassie (who I LOVE) but the thought of Charlotte's Eve opposite Stacy's Kristen makes my mouth water.

Apologies if this was already posted.

17 hours ago, Vee said:

I am with @carolineg, I always liked Molly Burnett. The mistake was Dena then trying to center the show around her, tearing down characters like Nick for her, etc. Jamey Giddens and DC making a hue and cry against Molly their mission in life also heavily shifted fandom perception online IMO. They acted like anyone they didn't like was a 'hair model' and could not act, and that was never the case with Burnett.

Yeah, I never got 'hair model' from Molly. I didn't like Melanie (mostly because she ate the show) but Molly actually had charisma and screen presence.

6 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

I grew to like her. Initially, I was disappointed with Shayna Rose being replaced. She wasn't the typical cookie cutter young leading lady and I liked it. 

I liked Shayna and it took me time to adjust to SH but I rooted for Hennig's Stephanie hard against Melanie.

I forgot about Ali's mom pulling her from the show and I don't think I ever knew about RKK's issues at other shows, just Days.

Damn.

What a problematic actor.

2 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Whoa. What drama happened with him?

To my understanding he was kind of a chauvinist and Kristian/Lisa hated him.

He got involved with Miriam Parish which I forgot about too. I think she was like 17.

28 minutes ago, carolineg said:

How would you incorporate RKK into this?  As some sort of FauxBo or as Harris?  I like RKK's Bo, but I certainly wouldn't give him a second character after his behavior. Regardless, I doubt Kristian would agree to work with him.

Kate is not a Katie lol.  But this is Roman.  He did coin the world's most obnoxious, non-sexy nickname for a romantic partner in "Doc", so I expect nothing less.

I like the 80's adventure stories, but I agree John/Steve tend to look a little silly.  I have no idea why Eric/Brady aren't integrated into this. It's definitely getting to the point where everyone involved is too old for this stuff.  It would make more sense for, say, Belle/Sami/Stephanie to be the ones kidnapped.  That way multiple generations could be involved.

I'm not sure on RKK.

I don't think it's necessary to have a "spoiler" in the story outside of Megan but from a creative perspective I'd rather have RKK (who at least has relevance to the characters) than Steve/Harris.

You're probably right about Kristian but maybe RKK has changed over the years. Maybe not. What's his behavior been on other sets since Days?

Agreed on Roman lol.

Eric, Brady, Belle, Shawn, Sami, Stephanie, etc. definitely need to be integrated into these stories.

On 3/17/2023 at 9:52 PM, carolineg said:

IMO, Peter Reckell has always been decent/good.  Not great, not going to win emmys, but a solid Days lead.  He was just so off today.  He must be rusty or trying something as a brain washed guy.  But I don't remember brainwashed Bo from the 2000's being this awkward.

I love Peter/Bo but he was off on BS2 and Friday, too. Even playing brainwashed. Hopefully it'll iron out.

Some of this is giving me "Death Becomes Her." Miranda Wilson is eating it UP.

I wish they incorporated RKK into this story instead of Steve Burton.

I'm sick of hearing Roman say "Katie." I cringe every time. 

This may be unpopular but I'm not crazy about the 80's-style adventure stories unless they incorporate more of their younger cast into them. 

I liked SOME of the elements of Beyond Salem but a lot of it felt like a dated Miami Vice with John and Steve running around like super spies still in their prime, etc. 

I prefer the tone of the more gothic adventure/umbrella stories of the 90's (Maison Blanche, Aremid, etc.)

9 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

He was boasting about doing today’s too. 

And he’s also boasted about pitching stories to Ron. That awful Sarah as Renee mess was his idea. 

The kitchen appliance de-brainwashing episode was Jamey too? Jesus.

"Sarah as Renee" felt like fan fiction to me. Most viewers don't remember Renee and the actress isn't around to use anymore. I knew it was a Jamey idea before he even took credit for the story.

At least with Megan they can still use Miranda. She seems to be relishing it too. There's story to milk and she's fresh vs. everything else right now.

I just find it all so dumb from the "deaths" to the pacing to the talking urn to the waste of time that was the afterlife to bodies in pods like some kind of spaceship laboratory.

I don't get it because they've shown they can write good stuff when they want to. I loved the tenderness of EJ/Nicole this week, for example, and a little over a month ago I was raving about how compelling the show was. Then they derailed it all for hell.

They CHOOSE tacky every time.

15 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Well Sonny apparently must have returned to say goodbye again.

And the ladies are back with the living

Nothing on this show makes any sense lol.

They should've woke up in Megan's lair like a week after they "died." That afterlife stuff was such a waste of time. 

First characters that came to mind were Chloe and Nicole on Days.

21 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Based on scenes I've watched on YouTube, I adore Valley's take on Jack, and would warmly welcome him back to the role!

And, if Jason Brooks is unavailable, I've always suggested William deVry for a Peter recast!

William DeVry would be great!

In my head I see Peter Hermann or Tuc Watkins.

49 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

I'd LOVE this, honestly! And I think Mark Valley would have wonderful chemistry with Cady McClain; if they didn't want him back as Jack, he could be a potential Mike Horton recast, too!

Same.

They've done a lot of damage to Jack with the Abby vs. Gwen stuff (though I love Gwen when she's unapologetically nasty) and I think Valley would be kind of a refresh of the character.

I agree he'd have chemistry with Cady. He'd have chemistry with everyone, really. He was always a charismatic actor.

I know Matt's most notable in the role but Mark's always been "my" Jack. It's his Jack who has history with Peter too so it'd be beneficial if they decided to bring him back.

...and they should. It's a shame to waste a ripe villain.

9 minutes ago, Tonksadora said:

Was Cady McLain playing Jennifer Rose by then? Or not? 

I can't remember.

I don't even know if I knew details of the story, just that it was planned and scrapped.

5 minutes ago, Tonksadora said:

I don't know why past BTS history would be an impediment at this point.

It shouldn't be but up to a few years ago it was. Ron had a whole story written that went in the trash.

I was toying with some ideas for a Peter return last night. I'm curious if anyone has thoughts.

First, I'd bring back Valley's Jack.

I'd have Abby come back with no memory where she went when she "died."

She'd be angry with Chad.

Over time she'd assimilate and run the paper with Jack, which would be a bigger part of Salem society with a SET and characters working there.

Then I'd bring Peter back.

On Chloe's arm at first, having met her out of town. She wouldn't understand the scandal at first 'til she learns he's the black sheep DiMera son and Kristen's brother. But he promises he's different now. There's genuine attraction. She ignores the naysayers.

I'd reveal Abby was with Peter when she "died" (though she'd have no memory of it) and leave the implications of that a mystery with Abby acting bizarrely at times and only Peter knowing why.

I may or may not let Jennifer entertain the idea of romancing Peter again with Peter gaslighting her but he'd mostly be battling Stefan over Chloe and his place in the DiMera family.

THEN... I'd have Peter KILL Stefan and FRAME Jack/Abby for it with the town believing Jack helped his daughter cover a mental break... and Vivian seeking VENGEANCE!

A throwback to Peter framing Jack for his "death" in '96.

Then, Peter (with Gwen) would STEAL the newspaper and use it to slander the Deveraux's with Chloe naive to Peter's true nature.

I'd involve Stephanie in this, (unwittingly?) being used by Gwen to hurt Abby. I'd have Gwen stirring the pot with Abby/Chad/Stephanie.

Chad and Jennifer would work to clear Abby's name while Stephanie doubts her innocence.

Then, on the eve of Abby's sentencing, Jennifer bursts into Peter and Chloe's engagement party to announce she's SUING the Spectator and has proof of Abby's innocence!

I'd wait longer before I reveal Peter killed Stefan (let him get closer to Chloe so she's devastated when she learns the truth) and play more with Abby's missing time and what Peter did to her and why, an arc of its own (revenge against J&J).

The fallout would put Chloe back at odds with Kristen as Kristen defends her brother against Chloe (and the Deveraux's) and Chloe turns to Brady for comfort.

I'd also have Vivian going after Peter and Kristen (who'd help him) with bloodlust. I'd pit Chad against Peter as well.

Thoughts?

12 minutes ago, carolineg said:

They have definitely specified Johannesburg for South Africa multiple times.

And for Switzerland they have said Geneva and Lugano as well.  Not all the time or for everyone, but they have mentioned those locations especially for John/Marlena

Why do I associate Lilli Faversham with Lugano?