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Didn't he have a wardrobe malfunction? Or am I thinking of someone else (i'm crap with UK soap actor names...) We had Emmerdale for a year here in Canada, back to back with Eastenders. For whatever reason, they dropped Emmerdlae last Fall but kept Eastenders (the CBC still shows Coronation Street which seems to be unshakeably popular in Canada sperately in the early evening and again at midnight). I was getting kinda back into Emmerdale but have to admit that it's last few months here you could alrady see the show getting more and more directionless (we were a year or two behind and ended during the gay euthanasia storyline, a story I'm sure has been endlessly debated about on here but I don't even feel like getting into--at least I grew pretty uninterested in the characters before it started...) It's too bad to hear it's become such a mess as over the years when it's popped up on Canadian TV (it used to be paired with Corrie by the CBC for ten years or so in the 90s and early '00s) it's often the UK soap I have enjoyed the most.

No, you're right--in a way that was its strength. I think, obviously Vicki (and to a lesser degree characters like Dorian) helped anchor a lot of that element. I think that's one reason I disagree with people like Khan who see the Malone/Griffith/Gottlieb era as gutting the show--I have a bias as that's when I got hooked, but regardless what one thinks about bringing it back to its original theme, or that it needed to be revamped, the show had a history of that already. I do agree that Ron's "clever" way of connecting everyone reeks of fanfic--particularly because there's no pay off (a running theme with OLTL the last decade). It's been a cliche since the 40s with Phillips to tie random charcters together, but even the semi debacle of AMC having Damon be Tad's child with Hillary and the execs not letting her on the show, had SOME good character scenes pay off.

At least Cosgrove was (IMHO) Hot, Lowry never was, but I get your point. Like I said, I did like his initial romance with Liza before they knew who each was. I think Liza did recover somewhat--but as a backburnered character (I'm speaking of Marcy's Liza), but I do agree with your point in general. This is the Monday, (the 18th) following the last episode I uploaded, still at Palmer's Masqeurade, 1980. Lots of great stuff. I really wish I could see AMC 1976-1981 or so. I know Babbin (?) shook things up as EP and 1983-84 anyway is seen as classic, but a lot of that is online--and I think this is the era that most interests me (aside from more from the very very early couple of years). Sorry I have NO idea how to edit out commercials or any other form of video editing--but I kinda enjoy the commercials, and they're easily skipped. *Will Palmer discover who the masked lady is?* *Is Phil back from the dead?* Will poor Brooke ever fall in love with someone who doesn't seem like an attractive--and in love with Erica--gay man?*

That's pretty much what I meant-- In the AMC thread Carl mentioned how the show seemed gutted in 1989, but (and this isn't to say AMC or OLTL is the better soap at all, just an observation), OLTL seemed to do this more drastically and less gradually every few years to an extent.

Edwina for one. Just characters that seemed to have major story but no real historical significance in terms of what their story did for future stories or characters on the show (if that makes sense?)

To be honest by story with Liza I think I meant the two weeks they spent in that country inn when he came back. That was what came to mind--I found the character interesting back then. I didn't like his involvement with her afterwards... And yes--people complain that Tad got too judgey but really he had NOTHING on Lowry's Jake. Ugh.

Yes, their scenes together are great (as is some of the random scripting--AMC really used to have above average dialogue, particularly in terms of wit--actually even in its most barren more recent years I think the scripting, for whatever reason, was often a notch above most other soaps--I love the opening scene with Brooke and Langley in that episode where they talk about his little legs...). I also love how the whole sequence (I think there was another one or two episodes after the three I have, that were still at the party) is set on location and filmed almost like Gosford Park or something, it feels so different from a normal soap, with a true sense of the party going on in all these various rooms at the exact same time. I'm nearly done uploading the second episode from the Monday right after that Friday, since I had time to load it in the computer while on my fruitless search for the OLTL Tribute magazine tonight. Will post when done. One question for youtube users (and maybe I need to post this in the video forum)--I noticed that though it seems to work for everyone here, when I do a search for the episode on youtube, signed out of my account, it doesn't seem to come up. I made it a public video, so I hope anyone interested doing a search would be able to find it...

RPG could be unbearable, and I know he wasn't well liked on here, but I think overall he did get the mix of the character, as I perceive him, best, and when he was good I thought he was, well, very good (maybe not great). It may have been a condensed story due to the ending, but I appreciated this past Summer that the STD story with him and Amanda wasn't about him demonizing her or agonizing over it, the way STD stories nearly always are on soaps, but a much more realistic take on what would happen in that situation with someone you loved. I dunno, I just found Lowry so unappealing in the role in general (I didn't mind him the first few months with Liza I admit, and pairing him with Ally--I think that was her name--didn't help matters), but what you say is probably true. Maybe they renamed him partly because they realized it was such a different take on the character. Peck was fine--I liked him with Greenlee and even somewhat with Mia, but he did seem all too serious for the character, although I suppose you could do something interesting with having the two Martin brothers be such opposites--which they never explored.

I've enjoyed them too. It is kinda surprising to see so many names come and go during this period--characters who were major players on the canvas. I guess maybe that's been the legacy of OLTL since the late/mid 70s anyway for every era--the only other soaps I've read so many old recaps of are AMC, where this happens as well but I seem to find it happened significantly less, but it may just be that I find it easier to follow because I know that show's history a bit better, and Loving which of course is a mess in that respect though you do see many of the same basic families stick around for a while, if not the actual characters...)

Agreed, and that's the only place I've seen him as well. Lowry was just awful in the role. Yes Jake has had a myriad of problems under Peck and Goldin (who only really became likeable for me his last few months when Broderick's writing seemed to mesh with him), but I prefered both, even Goldin in some awful moments, to Lowry who I *never* liked in the role. I used to always simply blame Lowry, but I actually kinda liked his brief run as Ross recently on OLTL despite it being a thankless role... ANd yes, he changed his name to sound more grown up apparently and also because at the time he didn't want to be so associated as the Jr to his father... (I guess kinda like JR not being called Adam Jr, etc...--I admit personally, unless you're named for a dead relative, I think naming a child after his parents albiet with a Jr is never a good idea, even if it used to be done for family legacy reasons).

Glad people are enjoying! I'll try to get at least one more by Saturday and the other two by next week

Exactly agreed--they had one moment early on where she struggled to remember something and covered, but...

As am I, not to sound catty or self congratulatory but it was one of the more clearly set up surprises--for at least a few episodes now, if not more... OK I admit it did kinda bug me that Jack realized he should loosen up. Obviously they're showing that he and "Amanda" aren't ideal matches and he's kinda catching on--but, while I know for many girls it's "cool" to drunkenly make out with other girls while having a bf, I'd be kinda annoyed, especially if she was meant to be working...

(that all said, I really do miss the old school style of AMC shown in the 1980 episode I linked But I don't think by 1990 any soap had that anymore)

Ah did you mean the primetime special or one of the episodes from the Anniversary week? (Sorry for all the questions). I think that's fair evebn if, being a big fan of early 90s AMC I don't fully agree, but I know some on here do. At the same time I've read some online people who felt the same about 80s AMC in editorials of the time compared to 70s, etc--I'm not sure if it coulde have been avoided if that makes sense (AMC did shoot steadily right to a very strong 2nd ratings point with the changes, although ratings don't always mean much). It did still have a good sense of community I felt, and I think characters like Kendall, the Marricks, etc, were strong and memorable for the most part--even to a lesser degree the Dhillons, the Kiefers, etc etc (I was going to say the Santos but they got annoying fas, it's true). Certainly I think to list 1989 or 90 as the beginning of the end is overly simplistic and dramatic, but that's IMHO. I also think a number of characters (like Maria) should have had shorter shelf lives but that doesn't make me think the initial conception of their character was flawed--I think sometimes that's true of a lot of soaps, and as I believe Noone said, she felt they had done everything they could with Ellen and didn't feel like hanging around being a tentpole style character--fair enough.

I don't remember any of that stuff it seems--though I watched back then. I assume Julia's AIDS patient friend was very short term, when she was worried she got AIDS, but don't remember the Cecily stuff (though she should have gone for Del over Charlie--I didn't know Del was even on that late).

How do you mean? Frankly, while I think letting some characters leave was a mistake, the show was overpopulated--I'm not sure a void really felt needed to be filled in many cases. You did later get the whole Marricks, etc, but I assume you mean more around 89-90. (I have a random question about that clip from '89--the infamous Eric the Clown story. I know and have seen much of it, but have no idea how it ended. Did he reconcile with Eerica and then move away? I know the whole clown thing was never brought up later with the Richard Fields story or Eric's death--prob for the best)

You know I don't remember Louis Edmonds being on AMC as late as 1993--I can't say I remember seeing him at all and I started watching very late '91... Weird! (I don't think Which special do you mean? The first one is from 1990--before the new house... Dixie's accent faded from what I've seen, though fairly quickly You know I watched from late '91 on, and the ONLY time I remember seeing Langley on the show was in '95 for the 25th Anniversary week when he told Myrtle that Verla was his daughter--nothing from '93

After MANY attempts and creating a new youtube channel, I uploaded from video tapes I traded for as a teen, the Feb 15 1980 AMC, the first episode of Palmer's infamous Masquerade Ball. It's a great episode--they rented out and shot it mainly in some East Coast manor. Anyway this is my first time trying to upload anything, and it took about 7 hours on my crappy computer once I found out how to make it work, so I haven't checked the full episode but it seems to have worked. I tried to upload it in a higher quality setting but 480 was the best I could find. This party is often talked about and seems virtually non existant out there so I felt it should be the first thing to try. I also have the next two episodes in the party from Feb 18-19, as well as a May 28th episode from the same year that I've digitized from video. If there's interest in this I'll work on uploading those three as well but it may not be till the weekend.

Didn't many guess that?

Which ABC pooped on

Right, I guess the Corringtons were the following year--Schemering does "credit" them with the mob mess. Though i guess Henry SlesarWAS co HW this stuff. The Corringtons lasted only 8 or 9 months--then Sam Hall and Peggy O'Shea came back (I am not sure if Peggy O'Shea quit the team when Slesar was there or was still on the writing staff...)

I think you're right. Obviously with the adventure stuff, Dr Kipling and his robotic arm and remote control mind control (or was this later), etc it was a muddled era and I assume an attempt to be more GH... Didn't the Corringtons shortly come on for their odd tenure?

Solaramite?

How I HATED Brian Green as the recast Brian back at the time. He actually doesn't grate on me as much now, but... I didn't remember that they briefly flirted with Edmund/Dixie--odd. (When did SoapNet air this pop up video style episode?) I forgot about this ad campaign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRRjeVcapY&feature=g-all-u&context=G2566c5bFAAAAAAAAAAA