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I hope Jack went psycho and found her secret stash. JackP--this was the first time we saw her have a past with Daniel.

Thanks as well--I guess I'll have to go through my tapes now again (though I was going to anyway to digitize them). I always had the feeling--and this is probably just conjecture on my part--that Nixon liked Addie Walsh so I wonder if she picked the change and if she stayed on as official consultant or only got that on screen credit after B/E joined. (I know in various opublications throught Loving's run they mention that AGnes Nixon is some weird title like Exectuive Head Writer for AMC and consultant for Loving--this seemed to last at AMC till the late 90s, maybe even till her run in 99-2000, and she did get on screen credit for consulting The City). Also wonder if Addie was just an interim writer (she was on AGnes Nixon's '93/'94 team) or why they hired B/E so soon after. Of course even though I loved a lot of Nixon's crazy run, and with Walsh was one of the better--by far--of the other Loving writers, they didn't do much with ratings).

I need to go over my tapes again, and you know so much about Loving that I had to sound anagl and argue this--but I was pretty obsessed with trying to get some sorting of when who wrote what, and had Walsh (with McCarthy) between Taggert and Nixon not after. I think one of the articles Carl posted mentioned Nixon HW it very late 94 with B/E announced to come in soon to replace her but with her as consultant. But...

Ha they've had similarly random casting throughout it's run.

I forgot all about that woman from Passions playing her shrink--because she was an ex of Richie's or something? I wish B/E had played up the "is Annie crazy or is Richie crazy" angle--it had some good moments...

DC thanks, that's fascianting. I have a lot of Loving on video from that time--didn't Nixon actually follow Addie Walsh's second run at the show--and then she stayed on as official consultant (though it sounds like she was for most of Loving's run) when Brown and Esensten took over? I did like Steffi and Cooper as a couple, partly due to their shared traumas--and Heinle did at least for me work well in the role. Gilbert/Jerem,y was kinda a bust of a story, honestly... For some reason I thought Angie had started seeing Jacobn by Sep of '94...

Galen was the first time I encountered that "The role of so and so will now be played by" announcement they used to always have. Brunette Galen was barely on at all -- a couple of months at most? Of course blonde Galen really didn't have much to do exceptt eh Carter Jones story and a boring relationshipwith Stephen who didn't have too much to do either...

It's an example of Pratt and how he approaches stories I think... The fact that mousy Marissa was introduced on the show as someone who performed at a "happy ending" massage oparloud for crying out loud... I liked Marissa more when recast, but... (Still can't believe Brittany won an Emmy)

You're forgiven because most of Helgfa's true glory era isn't online and you missed it, but Helga was *perfection* and brilliant terrorizing Erica in Budapest. There's a reason few fans of the era have forgotten her

Are you denying she didn't realize that that was how Daniel interpreted it and was happy he saw it that way?

The cheapest I've seen the complete set is for just over $500. Still a steal compared to the sets (which with the Amazon discounts--NOT list prices--come to about $1300 for all, and significantly more under list price). Kinda miffed I already have about a dozen of the sets--and I can't really afford the lump sum anytime soon anyway so I'll probably just continue to buy the regular ones whenever I get the urge and have some money--I'm already going through them fairly slowly in bursts--this and Peyton Place--so). BluRay WOULD make sense for disc room--kinda weird they didn't do that--but many fans wanted full on HDTV transfers which is kinda ridiculous. Some people don't realize that BluRay can't really improve the image of a 1960s videotaped show... (ANd I doubt MPV would want to remaster them all yet again anyway). Warner Bros who owns the first two films has said a late 2012 or early 2013 release for them is finally set, I assume to go with the DVD release of the Burton movie--is it under WB? I could see them doing some deluxe box set. I haven't liked a Burton movie in years--and don't get me started about what those three did to my beloved Sweeney Todd (although to be fair they did at least keep it more faithful than they did with, say, Alice...), though I do think Carter, when not directed by her husband, is still capable of better. But I suspect the film, regardless of quality, WILL bring ina number of new fans wanting to check out the originals.

Absolutely ridiculous Sorry, but I think it is. Whether she wanted him to get that impression initially, or she clued in suddenly that he was getting that impression and went with it, it's just as guilty a sin IMHO particularly when dealing with something as serious as this. You can't excuse behaviour because someone quietly and consciously allows someone to believe a crime, rather than flat out says it.

In SOD they recently mentioned that Michael Grande murder cover and said they were promised and guaranteed that the killer WAS on the cover, only to find out it wasn't true.... Was O'Shea fired by Rauch? I know she briefly wrote Capitol. (is IMDB right and she was on an episode of Neighbours??)

I think Bennett in general was ok, but overated. I found it funny that in a recent SOW interview he seemed so dismissive of soaps in general and his time on them. Chris was always an awful idea--I used to blame it on the actor, but I think everything about the character was ill conceived (I can't even remember if they explained his relation to Ryan or retconned that). Liz H seems to be yet another actor who Y&R has ruined... She did have a lot of charisma on the show, even with the heavy handed abuse storyline. I wonder if they ever tried to get her back to play out Bianca's story with Zack under Pratt--it would have made far more sense (as awful as the plot point was) that she would make out with a man, due to her past, than a random new character.

The show certainly did fall apart (and quickly) as soon as he left as HW (he passed away, didn't he?)

I remember people despised RIdings, but thought most felt Bennett was fine.

I give Schnessel a lot of grief--because I think the show largely became overly camp when he was there (under Peggy O'Shea, who had a long history with the show, the work was much more sophisticated and managed to keep more classic Llanview). I always got the impression Schnessel (what a name) was more of a yes man to Rauch, but that's probably unfair, as there WAS some great character work under him.

Right which made them kinda unbearable. The dance marathon was a rare instance I agreed completely with our beloved R Sinclair--it felt SOO clausterphobic, whether a cost saving measure or not. What an awful, so un-Pine Valley-overused set. "It's an event space! That's also a trendy dance club with "cool" music! And a place to have business meetings! And weddings! oh yeah, and breakfast too!" I really don't get why anyone decided the two major Pine Valley Inn locations--the main dining hall/event space OR the side bar/lounge were passe or something.

Of course, but after a while I really grew to miss them. I can't think of the last big one on AMC or OLTL. I mean even obvious things like weddings where it actually looks like people attended (as a kid I used to love to speculate who all the other people were--particularly my first year with AMC where for a long time it seemed I hadn't even seen the all the characters in the opening sequence--so it was hard to know who were extras and who were simply minor characters, or characters without any story).

Was the first Crystal Ball during McTavish's run? When Adam started seeing the ghost of whatever that blond was, etc? I do remember the tree branch on Dimitri. I agree they were relatively boring. Of course once they stopped doing them due to budget reasons I missed them--as that was when we started to not have any of those classic soap gatherings with everyone dressed up--so I would have gladly taken them back. (The only similar thing we had that I can think of after they stopped in 2002-2004 or there abouts was the Mardi Gras party Janet crashed and caused the explosion which I thinkw as around 2006 and seemed to be one of AMC's last desperate attempts at having a big expensive party).

Oh maybe it means we'll finally get some more of the Wildwind and maybe even Budapest stuff eventually ANd yes that Crystal ball was for he 30th... Still some good stuff, but it doesn't compare.

She doesn't strike me as a stage actress--though I would love to be proven wrong. You don't know the half of it

It's fascinating because Cathy seemed to be a favorite character of Nixon's, despite re-casts.

Has Blake done anything since AMC? And how many women (or men ) have done tampon adverts and then gone on to soap work--Alicia Minshew is another. Others (like Carl) don't share my love for Greenlee pre-Ryan but I think Nixon created her to be kinda a twist on Erica--the poor little rich girl.

Sometimes I've really agreed with her commentary, but things like that make me just... wow. (And of course she knows why Rupaul didn't flirt with Noah). (It's funny I had the episode on while doing work and was just listening to it and for a bit thought Scott was the drag queen... And Bobby wanting desperately to see "the original gender bender"--but so great to see Phoebe on her feet--i don't remember her playing a part)