Everything posted by DeeVee
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Not everyone is as devoted a fan as my mom was. 😂 Recasts are bad enough. It's when they create new characters for actors who were a big deal on another soap that we get some of the worst outcomes. Usually, because they don't bother to take the time to create a character and weave them into the fabric of the show. They expect their "stardom" to carry the day. I think something TPTB never realize is it's not just the actor who appeals to the audience, it's a particular actor playing a particular character that creates the magic. It's not that actors can't successfully create more than one indelible character--Bev, for instance, created two on two different soaps. Marcy Walker was hugely successful on two soaps. But then she came on GL and tanked because Tangie was not a well-defined character. Not understanding this kind of thing is why they come up with dopey ideas like trying to cast Micheal Zaslow as Alan. Luckily, Zaslow was smart enough to immediately shut that down.
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Sounds like JFP wasn't the only one who did "friends of..." casting. Didn't realize Howarth was a touchy subject. 😂 My mom was a big fan and followed him to every soap he went to. Yeah, once Jordan was gone, she didn't seem to know what to do with her. She inherited the Ross/Vanessa rekindled romance situation and canned it practically on the first day of her return.
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Just like they did with Sonni, Annie, Olivia...it was always ridiculous. Vanessa should have wiped up the floor with Reva. There's so much history being rewritten here. I would much rather they had them acknowledging that they're on to each other because they know each other so well. Vanessa usually had to suppress the vampy--and yes, snaky--part of herself with other men. I had the same problem with Ben as I did with Jeffrey. It wasn't just that he was a bad guy. He was so UNPLEASANT. No nuance, no layers. Hunt Block was on ATWT around the time Roger Howarth came on the show. Always thought Howarth would have been a much better Craig. Even though Howarth was a tad young at the time, I think it could have worked.
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Someone commented on YT that the episode before it was the first one after Pam Long's return. Minutes in and Reva is back in her Slut of Springfield red dress and KZ's getting 10 minute monologues for Emmy consideration. 🙄 I always thought not seeing the Ross/Vanessa/Alan story through and making Alan one of Reva's many love slaves was a mistake, but MK leaves a few months later, so it wasn't meant to be, I guess.
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Wow, kinda shocked at all the Louise Shaffer disrespect. I never saw her on SFT. (People always have a problem adjusting to recasts). But she was phenomenal as Serena Faraday on Edge of Night. Shaffer herself thought Rae's shelf life had expired on RH. She was stunned when they gave her a daughter just as her time as the Frank/Jill spoiler came to an end. And it's not her fault they tried to build a new family around her. Who could blame her for wanting to keep her job?
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NO, I did not know this! Thank you! I'm off to watch some episodes in German! I'm going to hazard a guess that this would not have lasted very long. I don't think he would have wanted to cater to someone else's muse. No matter what we say about KZ, she WAS popular. She had a very vocal fan base. Any writer coming in was going to have to service them. Even though I had many issues with Marland, I would have loved it if he had come back. I'm certain he would have rebuilt the Bauers and Reardons, and done a much better job at writing for the Spauldings. But I just don't see Marland wanting to focus so much on Reva.
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Thanks so much for sharing this. Fascinating to read the thoughts of someone who worked BTS and went through so many of the upheavals (and backbiting). Interesting to me was how Kate Mulgrew's aura kind of lingered in the air of the show after she left. Especially since she seems not to care much for that part of her career. I've heard her be rather dismissive of it in interviews. She mostly concentrated on what happened when she got pregnant while doing the show in her memoir. I don't recall her talking much in the book about anyone from the show other than her two close personal friends, Claire Labine and Nancy Addison. Possibly this helps to explain why they did such a bad job finding a replacement for her. If you think she's the greatest thing, ever, then you're setting yourself up for failure when you believe no one else can be as good as she was. (And no wonder she was disliked. If TPTB are telling a 20 year old all the time she's hot sh!t, not only is that going to cause a problem with the rest of the cast and crew, she's going to start believing it, too). Don't get me wrong, I was a big fan back then, but I also really loved the character and never quite accepted the idea that they had no choice but to kill her off. This happened with many soaps at the time. They were chasing GH's popularity. A lot of very young, very green actors were put front and center.
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I've often wondered this, too. Never happened with Alan Michael, either. Possibly because of absent core family members? With Alan Michael, they also burned through the character really fast. He was married 4 times by the time he left town. He beat Ross Geller on the divorce meter, LOL.
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That's exactly how I remember it. I'm pretty sure they were introduced at the same time, and in this exact dramatic way. Could not agree with this more! He was not good. I suppose he was meant to be a broody hero, but he just seemed to be in a snit all the time. And IIRC, Englund complained that GL did not treat him well. Dude, you're lucky you had that job as long as you did. Not just a bad storyline, it was a dangerous one. Implying that he was cured by prayer or God or whatever was INCREDIBLY irresponsible. To this day, I can't believe CBS and P&G signed off on that story.
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I always got the impression that Harley was meant to be a mini-Reva. Desperate to escape her origins, money crazy, eager to climb the social ladder. I remember when she signed the adoption papers for Daisy, she told the Lemays her name was "Fallon," who was a character on Dynasty. The parallels are even more clear when Dylan is introduced, who obviously was supposed to be her "Josh," (he was even a Lewis) though that never actually worked out the way Reva and Josh did. I don't think there was ever a big Harley/Dylan fan base.
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Ugh. There were so many writers who did not understand these characters at all. I wish they had done a lot more with Henry as Alan and Alex's surrogate parent. Today I was watching an episode with Vanessa and Alan arguing about how he treated her father in a business deal. Alan is protesting "she doesn't really know him." WTF. They've known each other FOR YEARS. They've been friends and business associates for ages (during her younger slutty days, Vanessa would vamp him a little just for the hell of it, much to Hope's chagrin). He even asked her to marry him once! Yet they're treating them like they're virtual strangers. It's such a no-brainer, isn't it? I wasn't a big Don Stewart fan, but he and Bev had a nice spark. If he didn't want to come back, I'm sure they could have found someone good to replace him. (Plus, they needed another lawyer in town. One minute Ross is D.A., then he's a defense attorney...they needed more than one). I have now. Thank you!
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On AW and Texas they put her with some nice leading men (including the incredible Donald May). But Iris was very different from Alex. Really, her leading man always was Doug Watson. She loved Daddy more than any other man. I guess that was kind of true on GL, too. Her best leading man was Alan (at least as long as Bernau played the part). Only without the weird incest vibe.
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I've said it before: they did Bev dirty. Never a real, sustained romance for Alex (unless you count Roger, but, you know...) with any chance of the audience being truly invested. Everything in her life is a tragedy. She finds her kid, he dies. She finds her other kid, he leaves. She finds an old love, he dies. Putting her with HB was an awful idea that thank goodness doesn't last very long. You're welcome!
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He had GL, ATWT, SFT, Capitol, Loving/The City. Maybe also AMC and OLTL? It's hard to remember. I was there mostly for GL and ATWT. Yeah, this is not a good period of GL. 😂 The art theft story is the worst. I get that they're trying to do an umbrella story, but there are zero personal stakes (unless you care about Johnny Bauer saving his shapely ass, which I do not). Was this when KZ went to Hollywood? Her scenes seem pre-taped.
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So that's Jim Muneco and Blake Marler down within a few weeks. 😭 If they take down Spauldingfield, I will scream. They have stuff that's been on there for almost 20 years, what's the deal? If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would be speculating CBS/P&G are getting ready to either put out more DVDs or are planning a streaming network like SoapNet. We couldn't be THAT lucky, right? Oooh, I'd love to see those. Can you link, or is it private?
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One of the many, many problems with Mo's death was how there were no other Reardons on the canvas except for the pregnant Bridget who was being hidden by Nadine. Like Bert's memorial, her funeral was a joke. (I think they mention the Reardons all came back and had a separate wake but no one sees it). True, it would have been difficult to get the actors to come back just for that, but YES, when Nola came back they absolutely needed to have her say all the things that needed to be said when it first happened. Finding the letter would have been an amazing scene.
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Almost instantly she emailed me back & shared with me that the line she wrote actually was Interesting! (Parker's version is better, LOL). Would you happen to know if Peter and Courtney were still married at the time? It would seem to me JUST a tad awkward if she was writing a breakup scene for him of this magnitude if they were no longer together.
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My only objection to this would be Amanda marrying Ed...at least if Ed was still portrayed by Peter Simon. I can't see Cullen and Simon having chemistry. In theory, it's a GREAT idea because Ed and the Bauers are Alan's enemies. If we're shaking up the show, then an Ed recast could have been in order. Before she exited in 1983, Cullen had a couple of scenes with Jordan Clarke. I detected some sparks between the two of them. If Billy was around at this time, that could have been another option, with Amanda captured by the Lewises. (Josh was her partner at LTA, so she's already connected to them through that old friendship). That would also be a problem for the returning Alan. (After I posted this, I looked up Jordan Clarke's time on GL and he was NOT around in 1994, so there goes that idea out the window, LOL). I've always been a proponent of bringing Rita back. With Roger and Holly on the canvas, Alan and possibly Hope returning, she could have shaken a lot of things up.