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Another World Discussion Thread
Missy and Rachel didn't interact very much outside of social occasions such as Walter and Lenore's wedding, Matthews' holiday events, and parties. They were friendly enough, but I wouldn't say they were close friends. Think of Cass and Donna over the years until they dated towards the last year(s) of the show. Missy was a bit more ambivalent towards Rachel as opposed to Pat and Alice who tolerated Rachel during her marriage to Russ but saw her for the greedy social climber that she was. Missy was perfectly content with being Bill's wife while Rachel refused to be a housewife with a bunch of kids.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Yes, Floyd Watts only existed as part of Sharlene's backstory. I believe Sharlene went by the surname Watts when she was first introduced in 1975, then took the name Matthews during her marriage to Russ, and Frame upon her return to Bay City in 1988. AW was funny sometimes about last names. Matthew kept the last name of Cory, which made sense because Mac played a big part in raising him and Mac and Rachel were married for much of his youth. However Matthew did briefly consider changing his name to Blake (his father's last name). Part of it was when Matthew was starting D&M with Dean. Matt didn't like the seemingly preferential treatment the last name Cory was giving him. I suppose he could've also assumed Davis, his mother's maiden name. Because the show seemed to focus on Josie being a Frame more than a Matthews, I would've thought it more likely that Josie would take the Frame surname. But then again, Lorna kept the name Devon and, majority of the time, Iris went by a husband's last name, starting with Carrington and ending with Wheeler. Ada could've used her maiden name of Lucas, but she kept the name Hobson from the time that she married Charley until her death.
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A lot of information on the AWHP came from the Somerset fan who created the site, The Somerset Registry. It's possible that he used AWHP's basic criteria to distinguish between major and minor characters. Therefore, the designations for characters comes from The Somerset Registry itself. Aside from that, I don't know enough about Somerset's storylines to verify Marsha's importance and storylines. So, I can't judge whether she was truly minor. That distinction is often grey with AW.
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Ratings from the 70's
I know and I appreciate your help.
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Ratings from the 70's
Also, from research I've done, The Doctors and Another World may have been Pre-empted on February 6, October 15, and November 7, 1973, but I'm not 100% sure of the dates and reasons. Likely, the had to do with Watergate, or the energy crisis. It doesn't look like the above three days affected Days though.
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Ratings from the 70's
So, Another World wasn't pre-empted on 12/28, but not 12/19/72 for the Apollo 17 Return and Splashdown? Looks like the coverage may have been long enough to pre-empt Days and The Doctors, but not Another World.
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Ratings from the 70's
Here's what I have for pre-emptions in 1973. From what I've learned, by June or July 1973, TPTB got sick of all the pre-emptions due to Watergate, so they started rotating them by network instead of pre-empting all soaps. Here's what I have for Days and Another World, probably The Doctors as well: May 17, 18, 22, 23, 24, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings June 5 and 12, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings June 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings July 11, 16, 19, 24, and 27, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings August 1 and 6, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings September 25, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings October 8, 9, and 10, 1973: American League Playoffs October 15, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings It seems like there was a pre-emption for Another World in early November 1973, but I'm not sure. Well, aside from November 22, 1973. I don't think the two January 1973 were really pre-emption as I can't find a legitimate reason. Unfortunately, the air dates listed by the university archivist and/or the credits pages of the script don't always account for pre-emptions. Unfortunately, this happened a lot within the Another World script collections in October despite the World Series and/or Playoffs making it so it didn't air.
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Ratings from the 70's
Appreciate all the hardwork, Jason. I've used your pages to verify and correct pre-emptions and air dates on the AWHP. Not sure if they will be forthcoming, but I'm curious about which soaps were pre-empted on December 19, 1972 for the Apollo 17 Return/Splashdown. From my own research, it looks like Days of Our Lives and The Doctors was pre-empted. However, according to my research of the Another World scripts, they don't seem to account for a pre-emption on that day. However, two dates from early January 1973 seem to be randomly skipped. I'm also unsure of pre-emption from February 5 or 6, 1973. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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On the May 17, 1991 episode where M.J. and Mary have a reunion with a previously presumed dead Kathleen, I think Mary mentions that Ben and Cheryl wanted to come but couldn't or something along those lines. In the last couple years of the show, there was talk about bringing some of Jake's family back, so Ben may have been mentioned occasionally at that time as well.
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Looks like my date for Laura Malone's exit is wrong on the AWHP. We thought it was some time in late July 1984, but it doesn't look like it. I'm assuming Ross hiding from Julia leads to her getting mugged and killed, which should be at the end of the following week (August 6-10). Was August 3, 1984 it for Laura Malone then?
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The first 2.25 hours seem to be completely new to me. Of course, I don't know Italian and I can't quite tell if these are full episodes or some clips bookended with an opening and closing, but based on the characters present my guess is November/December 1983 -February 1984. Mark is in the hospital, Carl is on the cast crawl, Stacey, Ted Bancroft, and Leo Mars are still present, and Kathleen Layman seems to make an early appearance as MJ. The "Welcome Party?" For Mac I think would be after he was hospitalized because of being out in the Canadian wilderness in January 1984. I'll have to give it a closer inspection
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It's been said that Irna went for melodrama instead of the more slow-moving, character-driven story from ATWT. Irna worried that NBC would be too quick to cancel Another World if it wasn't an immediate hit. Irna had a habit of hiring and firing actors on a whim as well. During Eddie's interview with Carol Roux she mentioned that Sarah Cunningham was fired after the first episode due to cutting her long hair. So, that's another legend. It was said that John Beal wasn't the right fit for Jim Matthews so he was quickly replaced by Leon Janney, whom Carol mentioned had been fired for making fun of the scripts. I've never come across an explanation for Joey Trent (Russ), Fran Sharon (Susan), and Vera Allen (Granny), but Carol sadly mentioned that Joey never acted again after that. My guess for Granny is that perhaps Irna felt the matriarch role was crowded with both Granny and Mary present, so she chose to keep Mary and sent Granny to help her niece give birth to her first child ( Granny is briefly mentioned in '65, but ultimately Jim asked Granny not to return to Bay City while Pat's trial was taken place. Granny would soon never be mentioned again). But, based on the stories that took place during the first year, there didn't seem to be room for Granny, Russ, and Susan. Until Susan left in October 1964, she found her own place, kept Liz at a safe distance, and along with Janet had "inside information" about Tom and Pat, her abortion, and hospitalization. Irna seemed to throw things at the wall to see what would stick, making plot points that were never mentioned again, like the legend of the campus bridge where a girl committed suicide to a failed love affair and something that happened five years prior to the show that cause a rift between Mary and Liz (though Lipton tried to establish that it had to do with Will and Jim's partnership in the family's accounting firm). Pat seemed to go back and forth between being hopelessly in love with Tom to being ambivalent, which I found kind or irritating. There are a few of the handwritten critiques included in the notes section if you're interested. I've enjoyed filling in the gaps within the synopses that were left after the original sets were done. I just wish Bowling Greene's collection wasn't so sketchy for 1973, but at least their wasn't a cast overhaul that year. I'm hoping the actual scripts after 12/31/79 are somewhere as, despite the newer sources for information, the years 1980 until June/July 1984 are still sketchy. I wish a rebroadcast of AW would take place again like currently with The Doctors. It's sad to think that all of those tapes are in a warehouse collecting dust.