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Kane

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  1. @DRW50 The other two women are Susan Keith and Linda Cook. One of the men is Ron Nummi. Not sure about the other - maybe Perry Stephens?
  2. Tangie's stolen money plot ended with her and Bill trapped in the burning lighthouse, so I'm not sure she's the person to ask for tips - although, on the other hand, at least her money wasn't marked, judging by how liberally Bill was able to throw it around after he found it. Deas and Carol had chemistry, but I find it hard to root for them because Buzz always treats Nadine so shabbily.
  3. Not drag, but for part of the story Buzz is hiding out in an abandoned house and in disguise as a homeless person. The story was that Paulie Hardman had just been released from prison after doing time for a robbery and some of the money was never recovered because he had buried it in the park. Since the police were keeping an eye on him, Paulie convinced Buzz to dig the money up and Buzz took a cut and started spending it, not realizing that the money had been marked. When she realized that the police were onto Buzz, Nadine tried to help him by finding the money and flushing it before the police could find it, but that just left Buzz in the position of not being able to return the money when he was finally caught and he ended up having to enter into a repayment plan with the government in order to avoid jail. This eventually leads to him and Nadine going on Soul Mates because he wants to win enough money to pay off the debt. Ross was involved in the story because he had been the DA who put Paulie in jail and Paulie was out to get even with him.
  4. Yeah, I'm currently making my way through August '94 and there's been a ton of Matt/Lucy scenes as the show chem tests them (spoiler: I don't see it, but I'm also in general not a fan of the trope where potential love interests start out by spending every scene passionately arguing about trivial things). Kind of seems like they're toying with the idea of trying Vanessa with Josh.
  5. GL: Buzz and Lillian. Buzz and Alex. GH: Maxie and Austin - they were a couple for about a year and I'm not sure that they kissed more than once.
  6. Spaulding also had a pharmaceuticals division and apparently a cosmetics division, as when Jenna and Eleni were trying to launch a face cream Alan-Michael's involvement had to be kept secret because he had just left Spaulding and had a non-compete clause. It may also have had a technologies division - I think that's where Brent Lawrence worked, but could be wrong about that.
  7. His wife was named Teresa and his son was named David.
  8. She hypnotized Charles into forgetting about the circumstances of the deaths of Jacob's wife and son. Casey's death was unrelated - he was killed by Pat Graham.
  9. I think the Hart to Hart comparison was referring to Jack and Stacey's role in the two Clays story. When Alex realizes that he was brainwashed when he was a POW, it's Jack and Stacey who end up doing the investigating and Stacey figures out what Alex's trigger is. I'm not sure how it played, but on paper it reads like busywork to keep the two characters busy in between stories of their own.
  10. SOD's comings & goings blurb characterizes Nummi's exit as a show decision: "Ron Nummi (Rick Alden) - Nummi, who joined the cast in 1987 as the Aldens' black sheep son, Rick, emerged as a central character when Rick became involved in a steamy illicit relationship with Stacey Forbes (Lauren-Marie Taylor). Now, however, the writers have opted to reconcile Stacey and her husband, Jack (Perry Stephens), and turn them into an amateur detective team, a la Hart to Hart, thus making Rick expendable." However, when Fitzpatrick joined, SOD also made a point of the fact that Nummi was supposedly let go for lack of story and yet the character was brought back within a couple of months. Although I haven't seen much of his time on the show, I've always liked Nummi in what I have seen and thought it was a shame that the show didn't try to take him in another direction after breaking up Rick and Stacey.
  11. Those character confessional style promos are from 1989. I recall seeing other ones of Rocky, Trisha, and Trucker. Nummi left in December 1989. In 1990 Rick was briefly played by Brian Fitzpatrick before the character was killed off.
  12. Thanks for the tag; always nice to see an 80s episode, even if it isn't in English. I think it's from late September/early October of 1987. That's her. She becomes Amourelle's resident photographer not long before she and April are written out.
  13. It's a different show. Image folds as a result of the dual scandals of Egypt's pregnancy and Jeff going crazy and kidnapping Trisha. Afterwards Trisha and Stacey launch their own show called Helptalk, which mainly exists to propel the "Who Killed Rick" story, as Trisha and Stacey buy a gun as part of an episode about gun control and Stacey ends up taking that same gun to confront Rick after finding out that he kidnapped Heather. Aside from the initial story where she writes a romance novel and that gets used against her as she and Jack battle for custody of JJ, I felt like the show never really did as much as it could with the premise of Stacey being a writer. She could have written a Peyton Place-esque novel that exposed all the secrets of people in town, becoming a best selling novelist but alienating her friends and family in the process, for example. Or they could have actually followed through with having her teach a creative writing class at AU and gotten her involved in that scene, which is discussed at the end of 92/beginning of 93 but just ends up getting dropped.
  14. I'd be more sympathetic if Gwyn hadn't made the tape to begin with. The dual lesson of that plot is 1) lock down your blackmail material lest it get turned around on you, and 2) don't try to blackmail someone with something that could ruin your own life if it came out. I'd like to add Paul to the list of unlikely hosts via his radio show, where he tells short, opaque stories about himself and Ava that are apparently all the rage with tweens and air live at random times through the day and night depending on what else Paul has going on that day.
  15. Sticking with AMC, Charlie Brent. The show could never settle on who it wanted him to be and finally just gave up and wrote him out for good. Tad's arrival probably threw a bit of a wrench on Charlie's development, as a teenage/young adult Charlie might have had some of the stories that Tad had if Tad had never existed. Charles Van Eman's version of Charlie seemed like an attempt to fill the void left by Tad during MEK's absence.
  16. Although I'm sure that Gwyneth was always the intended killer, I'm not sure if Gwyneth dressing as Trisha was always intended as part of the story. Because of where the Killer POV shows up, Gwyneth couldn't have been disguised as Trisha in some of those scenes because she was around people who would have noticed. I was surprised on rewatch by the detail that Gwyneth had bought the wig long before the family even received Trisha's letter. What was she doing with the wig before she started killing people? Playing both herself and Trisha and rehearsing their reunion? The steam definitely runs out. I feel like the penultimate episode does a lot of stretching for time and that what happens in the last two episodes could easily have taken just one. Another problem, as far as The City goes, is that if the point of spinning something off rather than starting from scratch is to carry over some of the existing audience, then they chose the wrong characters to make that happen. I mean, Debbi and Darnell would obviously generate interest with or without Loving, and Alex was Loving's leading man during both Randolph Mantooth's tenures, but Tony, Jocelyn, Danny, and Richard were all characters new characters, and Buck, Tess, and Frankie had only been around for 2-2.5 years and from what I recall of The City, it struggled to find stories for them. Did Buck and Tess even have a story of their own before her cancer story? An exception is Ally, who had deep roots in Loving and had a solid jumping off point as a character trying to start anew after tragedy, but the fact that they were still trying to make Ally/Danny happen was a problem after everything the two had done to each other. Ewing did have the advantage of playing a major part in the show's two big stories during its last months.
  17. I don't know quite what to say in the face of that much praise, so I'll just leave it at thank you. I'm glad you've enjoyed reading along as I make my way through what I have of the show. @Franko The final count on Geoffrey Ewing/Debbi Morgan/Alimi Ballard is 135 for Ewing (+29 from 93/94 combined and #1 for 95), 129 for Morgan (+4 from 93/94 combined and #2 for 95), and 79 for Ballard (+4 from 93/94 combined and #8 for 95). Darnell Williams has 118 and is #4 on the year (behind Randolph Mantooth).
  18. Thanks for posting those. It's always nice to see an episode with the original Jeff. I hope one day an episode with Michael Maguire's Jeff will surface - I imagine he wasn't in very many. I saw a clip of him from Quando si Ama, but it was difficult to get a sense of his take on the character.
  19. The May 1991 episode: I don't usually enjoy Carly scenes because I find her to be such a sour and unpleasant character, but the scenes between her, Kate, and Ava joking around with each other in Burnell's were nice. Loving always moved plots at a fast pace, but it's still sometimes surprising to me how quickly they reset the characters emotionally. Just a few months before this episode Clay was framing Trucker for involvement in the plane crash, yet here's Trucker being totally nonchalant about Clay being around and Trisha considering reestablishing a relationship with him.
  20. If he had stayed gone after leaving Brenda at the altar, that would have been fine with me. I thought he was a good character during his first run and, having recently rewatched that period, I enjoyed his redemption arc (if it can be called that) when he and Luke were working together and he was first getting together with Brenda and there was lighter material mixed in with the darker material. Really, other than the Karen story, I can't think of a point during his first run where I wasn't interested in the character and his stories (even if I didn't necessarily always like him). Him returning and increasingly becoming not only the center of the show, but somehow the moral center, is part of what drove me away from the show for over a decade (along with Luke's never ending vendetta against the Cassadines and the show just generally becoming darker). Best story was Sonny/Brenda/Jax. Sonny belongs with Brenda. Carly belongs in the gutter. As for other pairings, I find his relationship with Nina surprisingly tolerable. Although I didn't like it at the time, on rewatch I think he had a nice, relaxed vibe with Lily.
  21. This channel has been uploading a ton of Quando si Ama. The first 13 videos are material from 1983, and the rest have been 1984, with the most recent ones heading into 1985. Some points of interest: 13: June takes the stand at Jack's trial and remembers shooting Garth 14: Shana's introduction 23: Ann returns after a short absence played by Callan White 25-27: Roger's death and funeral 29: I'm not entirely sure if this is Ava's introduction, but it's the first video featuring Patty Lotz as Ava 33: Jim and Shana are in a cabin during a storm, unaware that Harry is lurking around outside spying on them 36-37: Doug and Edy's wedding 45: Jack crashes Tony's motorcycle after finding out Dane is his father 50: Jack sleeps with Ava 59: Roya Megnot takes over as Ava 73: After having a nightmare about Vietnam, Mike grabs his gun to shoot himself and is talked down by Shana 76-80: Harry kidnaps Shana 81: Ann and Dane elope 88: Trisha and Gwyneth arrive
  22. It's funny you should mention that because I was looking over Marland's era not too long ago and it occurred to me that throughout 1984 he ushers in characters that seem like they function as his own spin on some of the characters he was handed. You mentioned Shana and Merrill, who I think have a lot in common and, as you say, Shana takes Merrill's place on canvas in certain respects. Dane literally takes Roger's place in several respects (he's Jack's father, becomes the owner of Forbes Construction, and Ann's husband). Kate comes in and eventually supplants Rose as the salt of the earth, working class matriarch. Trisha fills the void left by Lily as the innocent ingenue, and Garth's characteristics get split between Harry and Gwyneth, with Harry inheriting the violent tendencies, and Gwyneth inheriting the unhealthy obsession with her daughter's love life and the willingness to go full tilt against a rival who isn't even engaging, let alone retaliating (for Garth that's Roger, for Gwyneth it's Ann). Ava comes on the scene right around the time that Lorna's short marriage to Tony ends, which is when Lorna transitions from being a character who makes things happen to being a character to whom things happen (the victim of the plots of Jonathan twice, Rebecca, and Jane). Ava takes over as the resident pot stirring schemer and Lorna gradually starts to become more of a heroine. Of course, having said all of that, I've never read the show bible, so for all I know some or all of these things were planned from the beginning by Nixon.
  23. I think you must be right about Taggart/Guza planning on Beck staying (and maybe exploring a darker version of Trisha, who taps into the power of manipulation that everyone else in her family has). For some time after she leaves, I feel like you can see the places where Trisha would have fit in to how things are unfolding. I've also long felt like Buck was shoehorned into the Kuwait storyline at the last minute in order to give Trisha a reason to go racing into the night, which is why his role in her death is never really acknowledged or explored afterwards and all the characters just decide to leave the questions surrounding Trisha's death unanswered. My dreamcasting for Curtis circa his first 1993 return is Mark Valley. For Clay (and maybe Jeremy) I think it could be a question of pacing. If Clay is in town when Stacey dies, then he and Gwyneth have that conversation about the possibility of Curtis being the killer right away. With him being out of town, that conversation gets delayed to draw things out.
  24. My plan is to finish 1995, take a short break, and then recap the rest of the Loving episodes I have (I have the last 10-ish weeks of 1991 and most of 1992). After that I might recap what I have of The City, but to be honest I don't have very many episodes of it. Thanks for the plug, glad you're enjoying the murders discussion. I hate that storyline so much and instead of steering out of it, Guza and Taggart doubled down by having Gwyn find evidence that made it geographically impossible for Cabot to be Clay's father. And other than Clay's attempt to destroy AE, which abruptly ends after Trisha "dies," and a couple of mentions after Cabot comes back, it never gets mentioned again and doesn't actually affect anything. Celeste Holm hated it, too. I was leafing through an old Digest relatively recently and there was a "why they left" article featuring Holm. This is what she said about the story:
  25. Christine Tudor and Dennis Parlato had chemistry for days and the dynamic they created between Gwyneth and Clay was so interesting. They were possessive of each other, but at the same time each seemed largely unbothered by the idea of the other sleeping with someone else (Gwyneth used Clay to honeytrap Tess, after all). If it weren't for the fact that this was an American soap, I'd say that they could have been used to explore a nonmonogamous relationship. Gwyneth and Jeremy were okay, I thought. They had decent chemistry, Tudor and Jean LeClerc put a lot into selling it, and I can see from a character perspective how a relationship with Jeremy would have been a breath of fresh air for Gwyn, but that's also what made the relationship a dead end storywise. Once Clay was removed as a potential obstacle, there was no natural conflict in the relationship and the show seemed disinterested in creating new conflict for it.

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