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56 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

 

Ugh... you know we soap fans can put up with a lot of crap, but I hated how they rewrote it that Bonnie and Adrienne were lookalikes. There was never a mention of this when Bonnie was introduced in 2003, nor when Bonnie left/Adrienne returned within a month of each other in 2007.  

To me, the stupid part is casting a long-running Days actress in a totally different role in the first place. I know it's standard practice on Days (see also Josh Taylor as Chris/Roman and Kyle Lowder as Brady/Rex), but it's a dumb practice. 

18 minutes ago, pdm1974 said:

Oh, wow! Are they actually going to give Abe a new love interest?

 

 

She won't even air for another 3 months, and I'm already shipping them. (Should we call them Paulabe? Abina?) This sounds like a smart way to do stunt casting, with an actor who has plenty of daytime experience, who fits with the existing tone of the show, and who might bring along some curious new viewers 

5 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

All the jokes in today’s show about ANOTHER person coming back to life were both entertaining yet annoying. It’s like RC knows he’s ridiculous with all these returns from the dead but just constantly does it because he DGAF

At least this return from the dead has been foreshadowed for several years, as the flashback to Dr. Rolf's Nashville warehouse of reanimated corpses took care to remind us. And I feel like Ron hasn't been quite as kill-happy as his predecessors, which should reduce the need for these "magic death-defying potion" plots in the future. Ciara has "died," but they never found a body. Adrienne died, but they can always do a kooky "Bonnie really died and Adrienne thinks she's Bonnie" plot if need be. And I guess Haley and Jordan both died under Ron's pen, but so what?

On 12/3/2020 at 10:55 PM, victoria foxton said:

 

  

Looks like Roman is thinking the same thing. I loved his "What the HELL happened in that convent?" line today. 

47 minutes ago, slick jones said:

Peter Porte's Ricky Williams was demolished by the writers on Y&R, but he's a decent actor and of course, Juan Pablo's role in Fuller House is better known than his time on Dallas 2.0.  

Whenever I hear about Juan Pablo, I always think of this video. It's hard to forget!

39 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I’m so anti nu-Claire I’m almost at the point of fast forwarding her scenes because this girl is just so off putting. I mean if the original Claire is ever available again, they HAVE to get her back or anyone better than this chick.

They should just have a plot twist where Claire receives some shocking news, has another psychotic break, and suddenly starts speaking in an Australian accent. I'd bet you anything that if Isabel Durant got to use her actual accent, she'd be able to give this character some life.

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

Omg I don’t understand why the actress is suddenly playing her do cutesy and ditzy. It’s driving me crazy.

I agree that Linsey Godfrey is playing up the cutesy side of Sarah (which doesn't always work in her hospital scenes), but I don't agree that she's playing ditzy at all. In fact, the show is doing a consistent running joke that she's smarter than Xander (and better at scheming when she puts her mind to it).

And I'd much rather have her overacting a bit and creating a memorable character versus whatever that girl playing Claire is doing; that one seems to be trying so hard to suppress her Australian accent that she's forgotten to give the character any personality. 

On a totally different note, I don't quite get the criticisms of what Ava said to Allie today. Ava is a psychopath, so I don't think the show is actually endorsing her viewpoint that Allie is a "liar" and a "bitch." The character we're meant to empathize with in those scenes is Tripp, and he's defending Allie in them. 

Paging Dr. Freud with that scene near the end of today's episode where Allie is just about to castrate Tripp (using her grandmother's gun and doing the same thing her mother did to her own rapist), but then Tripp's presumed-dead mob boss mother suddenly barges in, takes the gun from Allie, and barks, "Get the hell away from my son."

1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

Cady and Judi look like they had fun. They have a good rapport too. 

 

And Charlie is sexy as hell.

 

That's about it for today. Zzzzzz

I actually liked today's episode quite a bit. I'm loving the whole Xander-Sarah-Phillip storyline, especially with Sarah and Phillip each trying to play each other. And I'm really curious about why Charlie was spying in Phillip's computer; I know the show wants us to assume he's doing it on Xander's behalf, but my suspicion is that he's doing it on Ava's behalf. 

So I'm kind of confused about what they're doing with Gabi. Is she really going to be off-canvas in Arizona for at least the next month or so? (Based on who we saw coming back for the holidays in the Winter Promo preview video, I'm guessing she comes back for Christmas as well). 

8 minutes ago, Darn said:

Does Chloe just move back to town every 6 months? Where does she go during her yearly exit from the canvas?

The show actually has addressed this in a way that almost makes sense: Chloe's been in New York pursuing her opera career. And they checked in with her a few months ago during the storyline where Eve kidnapped Ben. Hope and a few other characters went to New York to look for Eve, and they saw Chloe, who gave them info about Eve. I kind of liked that, just like I enjoyed Theo and JJ checking in with their families for a few days (and then flying back to South Africa) earlier this month. 

23 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Seriously though, LW and MB have zero heat.  I can buy the like each other but I literally cannot buy the fact they have sex and are attracted to one another.  It's definitely not the most offensive pairing on GH, but when you have seen the actors sparkle with others it's very lackluster.  And this sounds vain, but physically she isn't Sonny's type at all.  The show has actually pointed out Sonny's penchant for petite brunettes and he ends up with a tall blonde lol?

 

I'll go you one shallower and say that, at this point, I don't want to think about Sonny having sex with anyone. I mean, MB was pretty hot back in the 1990s when Sonny was introduced (and even hotter when he played Nico back on AMC), but these days...

2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The other puzzling thing to me was making Kellam and Max roughly the same age and therefore adding two more over 40 characters.

Why not have Max be a hotshot younger guy?

Same with Joshua- Stephen Brooks was 38 - why not make Josh 28?

Liz could have been younger also.

 

Days needed younger characters at that point, especially that Laemmle ignored Mike and David pretty much

That's the part that's so baffling to me. One actually could make a legitimate case that the late-1970s cast of DAYS was a little worn-out and contained so many middle-aged characters, it just couldn't compete with more youth-oriented soaps like General Hospital. (This was, after all, the time when Guiding Light poached Doug Marland, partly so that he could introduce more young characters). But for some reason, DAYS saw characters like Bob and thought, "Hmmm...can we replace them with characters who are also middle-aged businessmen, only more boring and one-dimensional?"

9 hours ago, ironlion said:

Jason's character has been so boring since he came back. I'd like to see him and Sam broken up, he and Sonny in some sort of rift. Whatever can add some life to that orbit.

Steve Burton is not a bad actor, but the writers do him no favors constantly putting him into scenes with Mumbles Benard and narcoleptic Kelly Monaco. JaSam might well be the worst supercouple I've ever seen on a soap, because he's so stolid and she's so low-energy, it's just depressing to watch them.

Steve Burton is actually best in comic scenes, where he's playing Jason as the straight man to a high-strung or manic character like Carly or Spinelli. Why they haven't paired him with an actress who can play off that dynamic--Lindsey Hartley comes to mind--is beyond me. It's probably a combination of giving in the JaSam fandom and the overall dour tone of the show. 

5 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

GH needs to finally put its glorification of rapists, kidnappers and murderers aside, and end their reign of terror, under which the ratings have plummeted over the last few decades.

I also find the Sonny and Jason parts of GH basically unwatchable, but I don't think they're to blame for the ratings drop. Frankly, all soaps (and all primetime network shows) are seeing huge drops in the Nielsen ratings, because there are too many different entertainment options out there competing for eyeballs. And Sonny and Jason have been the show's primary focus for over 20 years now; someone must like that stuff, even if it isn't me.

I'd actually say that the show's bigger problem is that they have such a bloated cast, including tons of newbies with questionable acting abilities. Why "tune in tomorrow" when your faves might be offscreen for days or weeks at a time?

5 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

The bad blood between Nick and Will. Should've caused havoc. Within the loving and tightknit Horton clan. Having Hortons taking sides. Nick becoming homophobic. Due to getting repeatedly raped in prison was never fully explored. The transformation of sweet geeky Nick. Into a bad boy really worked. In spite of itself. Mostly due to a talent Blake Berris. I never realized the Roger vs Ed vibes before. I even see a bit of Alex in bad boy Nick.

Agreed that killing off Nick was a short-sighted move, and the show could have benefited from having a "bad" Horton, because it would cause a lot of organic, character-driven conflict, with some Hortons choosing family loyalty over morality. But to the show's credit--and unlike, say, GH, with its litany of dead characters who no one ever talks about anymore--they haven't forgotten about Nick, and his death has fueled years of storyline with the ongoing war between Gabi and Julie. 

If they're going where I think they're going with the Gwen storyline, then the scenes where she rebuffs JJ's flirting are some very clever foreshadowing...

12 hours ago, SFK said:

Philip looks rode hard and put away wet.

YMMV, but I'd be more than happy to ride JKJ hard and put him away wet. 

LOL at OLTL's Patrick as "Most Romantic Character." I couldn't stand him, and I thought he ruined one of my favorite characters (Marty). Frankly, a lot of what's gone wrong with soaps in the past 25 years can be summed up in the fact that Thorsten Kaye keeps getting cast in lead roles, while Susan Haskell doesn't. 

5 hours ago, Darn said:

 

She's just...horrific. When is her last episode?

I don't think that Marcy Rylan is particularly good in this scene, but she's no worse than the other two actors in the scene with her, which is part of the problem with GH these days. If you wanted to clear out all the "deadweight" actors who are sleepwalking through their scenes, there would barely be anyone left.

And really, how can anyone give a good authentic performance when they have to work with that lousy dialogue? Soap scenes like this are supposed to be about what the characters are feeling, but these people are speaking almost entirely in exposition. 

4 hours ago, beebs said:

Alex has now been given the okay by Bob to run Anderson until Chris gets back from his DC trip. CHRIS ONLY LEFT ON THIS TRIP ABOUT A WEEK AGO WTFFFFF!!! Can you imagine leaving on a business trip and coming back to this kind of a wacky sh!tshow??? My head would explode! ANYWAY, when Alex tells Mary this, she warily asks what's in it for him. Alex claims purely altruistic motives, just wanting to help friends he cares for. Mary, gunning for this month's big Dumbass prize, believes him and kisses him. Alex and Mary begin to be seen all over Salem together, with her seeing the charming side of him that reels her in after her tumultuous time with Chris. Eventually (probably like a week on), they admit their (alleged) love for each other. Finally, Alex proposes to Mary, and she accepts. Yep. Dumbass of the month winner right here.

 

I'm sure that Quinn Redeker was a magnetic performer, but I feel like everything Alex-related is happening way too fast. How has he become the central character in all these storylines so quickly? Why are all these women suddenly throwing themselves at him? 

That's just Bad Soap Writing 101, where the writer falls in love with the new character they've introduced, and they decide that all the existing characters on the canvas need to fall in love with them too. 

2 hours ago, te. said:

 

I agree - I've always been fascinated with the cast purge that happened around this era because I can't imagine what loyal viewers thought about it at the time, especially basically eradicating the Andersons that had been a part of DAYS for a decade. I mean some characters people were probably glad to see go (HAI POOR ETERNALLY DYING MARGO!) but others not so much.

TBH, I've been really bored reading about the various Anderson storylines in these recaps, though I can see how some of them might have played better onscreen, with the various scheming women in that family.

But it does seem weird that DAYS wrote out their millionaire industrialist family right at the time when other shows were introducing them (GL's Spauldings, GH's Quartermaines, OLTL's Buchanans, AMC's Cortlandts, etc.). They didn't exactly have their finger on the pulse of the 1980s, did they? 

4 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Nobody was asking for Rafe to come back. NOBODY.

I bet Galen Gering was  

There are some fun Jan scenes in the extended promo:

9 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

The Kate and Jennifer scenes were great today, and I’m glad they mentioned Lucas.

I was just getting ready to post this. Cady McClain and Lauren Koslow really brought it today. Loved the way they mentioned all the history with Laura and Bill and even (the unnamed) Curtis. 

And speaking of Gwen's secret, note how they yet again reminded us of the years Jack spent away from Jennifer after young Abby fell ill...

28 minutes ago, beebs said:

I tuned out about two years ago, but still follow the goings-on via online and...yeah, that's pretty much it.

 

You're probably better off reading up on the Bell/Pat Falken Smith era than watching what's going on now, tbh.

 

ETA: God, I sound so cynical. If you're getting something out of it, I have watched a couple episodes here and there and enjoyed it, but nothing grabs me the way it used to, put it that way.

Current DAYS might just be for you, but I will say that the strength of the show tends to be in its acting and dialogue, which doesn't always come through in internet summaries or discussions of its plots. 

For instance, Cady McClain's Jennifer had a great little scene today where she was talking to JJ about how tired she is of Jack always screwing up and hurting her, then trying to apologize after the fact.