JackPeyton

I am glad for the RH break before ATL and BH return. And no, i do not count RHoM lol

so nothing should be discussed, no sides taken, nothing? i look at it as any other tv show, movie, or documentary i watch. I discuss what is seen, for what it is.

Because its TV show and we are here to discuss it.

The fact that Tre, and everyone else, has acknowledged that there is in fact a tape Jaqui has that she isnt allowed to release really says it all for me. RHONY: Carole is flawless and perfect and i love how she put people on blast. Heather was on point with Sonja. Luann is desperate but at least can keep her lies straight. Avivia and Ramona are both insane and childish and insufferable. Very boring reuni

The fact that Tre, and everyone else, has acknowledged that there is in fact a tape Jaqui has that she isnt allowed to release really says it all for me. RHONY: Carole is flawless and perfect and i love how she put people on blast. Heather was on point with Sonja. Luann is desperate but at least can keep her lies straight. Avivia and Ramona are both insane and childish and insufferable. Very boring reunion all together. The old ladies need to go. Ramona gets so uncomfortable when her drinking is brought up. I find that is usually a telling sign, honestly. And lord Jill on WWHL. I can not. Is anyone watching couples therapy on VH1 with Alex? LOL. I hate both of these ladies so much.

What? Even if we are to belive Kim (lol) she made it clear Tre knew something was going down with setting Melissa up and she did nothing. Turning a blind eye doesnt make one innocent. I belive his parents didnt speak to him for quite awhile but started again a few months ago. when mel was on WWHL a few months back she said it had been strained between joe and his parents but recently they starying having dinner and then last night she said it was weekly and they just dont talk about tre. Not hard to picture Tre turning her parents on mel and joe at all, she is evil.

While i am sure that is a part of it, i dont think its a huge part. I was so happy to see it pointed out that she speaks to tabloids about things she acts like nobody has a right to speak of. When you put it all out there in a magazine, it is fair game. Not to mention how she trashes them all for a magazine contract then denies getting paid. Yup! But really, they should just return for a final season. They can not really redo it. They could try only keeping Tre & Mel, but i dont think it would work well.

Teresa really is a disgusting, vile, hateful, jealous bitch. Its really too bad she couldnt own anything or admit to anything because if she was I could maybe find her likeable. She lies so much. I truly do not understand how anyone can like let alone root for such a obvious pathological liar who encourages her abusive husband. I really feel bad for their poor kids. - and the fact that her fans can only try to trash everyone else to defend her speaks volumes. Shes an awful person on her own, not in comparison. Comparison is irrelevant, as there is always someone better or worse. Kathy? Basic. boring. can leave. Caroline was perfect. She was blunt, honest, owned her actions. This is why I like her. Jaqui is an emotional disaster. Melissa was fab. Truly. I absolutely loved the way she spoke the truth and used specifics to back it up when asked. She may be fake and put on a show, but she does it damn well.

She did bring them up first, go rewatch it. I only know this cuz I watched both back to back again. Insuinating that someones dead ather was not there for them is trashing, IMHO. Id go the eff off. I never said Kathy was out of line, she absolutely 100% was - and owned that. Something Teresa could never do. Kathy is basic and we all hate her, so we can bond there eric! Lol. People who are bullied and want to go around playing victim and calling people bullies better be able to at least name on occasion where such happened. Telling the truth to people isnt a bully. Stating facts isnt a bully. She doesnt need to turn anyone on Tre, tre does that all on her own. Is she supposed to lie and say nothing to people in order to protect Saint Teresa. and really, teresa was as much against Dani as Caroline was, and nither one was wrong for it. She didnt blame it on the girls, she blamed it on teresa and how she raises her daughters. Yes, yes it is actually. Its 100% ok. Teresa threw the first fist in this fight on her blog. Four? So Teresa isnt a hypocrite? Please. They all five are.

Finally caught up. RHoNY: Ramona looked like a damn fool in that hedious thing she had on that even someone 22 would look like they were trying to hard in. WOW. Really none of the women looked stunning tho. Very basic aside from Sonja. Luann trying to go in on Carole was hilarious and she failed miserably, really. I hardly made it through the Avivia vs Ramona part because i truly do not care and think both are just awful. I did love sassy heather though. RHoNJ: WHERE TO BEGIN ON THIS GLORIOUS PART 2 REUNION? Seriously. Teresa is just awful all around. The way she tried to play innocent and deny the fact that she brough up Kathys parents first and basically trashed their dead father? This is so her though, as later in the episode she would do it again and again. The best part had to be when she said Caroline was a bully all year long but couldnt name one moment where she acually was bullied by her. Caroline is a bitch, and she is not here for Teresas [!@#$%^&*]. Funny how she got on her knees and thanked the lord caroline is out of her life when just a few hours before she was holding her hand and crying on her shoulder. Then there was Melissa who just [!@#$%^&*] served Teresa with realism she cant handle. I was beyond proud of my girl because I did not expect that out of her and it was amazing. And then Jaqui just throwing everything out there on Joe and Tre was perfection. The whole Joe clean up segment was ridiculous and pointless.

This killed me-

Brandi made it right front and near center, her kyle and lisa really are the stars.

I can not wait for Princess Brandi to get an opening. I can not wait for BH to return! I love them all, even the ones I hate lol.

my god, the fake dog, the using of her kids... this woman is truly gross on a human level. the best part really is her admitting to getting paid then denying it. i dont understand how someone who lies daily can be so bad at it. its really quite amusing and yet totally sad and pathetic. once you put your kids out there the way she has they sadly become fair game. i feel really bad for those girls.

They really are not tho. Its about her abusive husband and her castmates. Thats it.

That looks suspect because of the cover though. I am wondering how much they told, and how much are quotes lifted from the reunion and interviews. I do hope its a legit full on interview slamming her like shes done to all of them. Get it ladies. Karma is a bitch and Teresa deserves it.

I think Sonja is the most likely of the originals to return, just based on having issues with both Aviva and Heather.

Allen is on the bay.

thats what ive been told and im so scared ive made s3 last a year so far, lol.

Wow. I really could not disagree more with that. While the new girls were not bringing the drama straight from the start, ramona & luanns early attempt at a story via a fued between them was laughable if not coma inducing. Ramona was basically reacting throughout the season or saying something then running away to drown another bottle to deal with her life. Heather created a lot of issues and fed some drama early on that seems to be forgotten about it. Sonja was basically just there all season and really only had a role at all when she was drugged out and acting like a child. Exactly. And i find her level of just being crazy a lot more fun to watch than drunken Ramona and while i do really like her, pathetic sonja.

Didnt they only extend it once, by a month, and even that was only for three events? It was supposed to end after vacation. Then the originals wanted more money, and I agree they should have been paid. But wow do i disagree with your assesment that the new girls sucked and the originals had to work to save it, quite the opposite actually. The only way Aviva should go is if Ramona goes as well. They are both atrocious but need eachother for story. I do think Luann will exit, tho I hear she trys hard at the reunion to secure a spot by attacking Carole and fails.

and badly done. I try to get into that show and i just can not. I am in s3 of thirtysomething and love it!

I dont mind Jack, really. I think he is important to Amanda to be around, but i dont think he needs so much of his own story. His brother needs to die. I think the Govt set it all up to take Conrad down later, and she called the white haired man in herself. Or he is part of the Govt and this all goes way deeper than Emily is aware of. YES to all of this! I feel like that is how she should be tho, all over the place.

I really think production needs to be taken to task for this season of NYC. It started off so boring. Seriously the first 8 episodes or so esily could have been two. With the way it ended, it should have kept going. I get they give production start and end dates, but i feel in a case like this when it was so boring early on they should have forked over the extra $$ to add at least another month to production. It ended very abruptly and in the middle of chaos.

Revenge came right back like it had never left and that is the way it should be done! The jump in time helps too because i dont much care about how they got from where they were when it ended to where they are now, plus they can show it in flashbacks and stuff. Well done. Victoria is alive was a big duh. Did anyone think she would be dead? Revealing her midway was a good move for that reason and provided a great end scene. I love Emily/Nolan dynamic. Emily finding out they also messed with her mother is a good way to keep this going thoiugh i feel it could have waited as she still hasnt really go0t enough revenge for what was done to her father, but i still think its a god twist. LOVE Emily/Charlotte and Em using her to hurt Victoria. Yes! I am not here for real emily, a baby thats clearly not Jacks, Jack or his annoying brother though. I love Ashley & Daniel, but I hope she is screwing Conrad on the side too!