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Vixen that new icon is so much better than that whack ass camel looking mutant in a wedding dress you had before.

I don't think the Scheena thing is something she needs to get over. It's only an issue when Lisa brings her around. Once. Twice twenty times. That isn't the point here. If your husband cheated on you and your good friend put you in a situation with that women and pressed you to go talk to get about marriage I doubt you, or anone, would be all smiles and love. It's a shitty thing to do ever. Period. I think Lisa knows this and did a great job of avoiding it without telling Brandi ahead of time and now that they have started to fall out suddenly Lisa stops. They were still friends when Lisa did this. It was just a little awkward. Kyle and Lisa's dynamic is fun to watch because they seem to have a respect of sorts for each other but also hate at the same time. It's a who's queen bee. And while Lisa clearly stole the show from Kyle, Lisa plays the game. I think that in many aspects she is phony. And just cutting people out when they confront you is a disgusting trait to have. Lisa being involved in the necklace the was a desperate move to be at the center of the drama. God for I'd there be tension or an argument without Lisa. She couldn't handle it. I loved seeing her push carlton to make a scene and Yolanda shut the [!@#$%^&*] down. I'm sure just like anyone you turn on a camera on Yolanda plays it up. Of course. The difference is I think it's authentic. I don't think she puts a front that it's all perfect out here. She's been honest about the struggles with Mohammed and a brokenf mainly and feeling like a failure and taming David and her disease. That's not Didn't they lose their charity standing?

Mine? I did with my Microsoft paint 1998 skills lol.

Exactly. There was no apology. Yup. Yes pt all of this. Perfect. Yes. Kenya and nene are not friends because nene decided to try and take her down. Backfire much? Vixen, I don't think any of us are saying nene needs to be fired. She doesn't and shouldn't. But again if she tried to force them to choose they should choose Kenya. Kenya isn't beloved by every rhoa fan by any means but she's serving the drama and bringing the heat and story. You keep asking what she's added, when she's added a hell of a lot esp this season. Yes Cynthia and Kandi have their own stories but that's about it. You also keep me going she's not good at confrontation at the reunion, but not everyone is. That isn't a big factor IMO. She's someone who thinks reflects and chooses her words and I appreciate that much more than nene who only slays at the reunions because she's loud. Also, I'm watching RHONY. I only saw last season so I started at the start and am mid s2. My thoughts so far- Ramona: disgusting. Bethanny: I oddly don't hate her like ii thought I would. She's pretty blunt and honest. Jill: I also do t hate her. She's pretty funny actually. Luann: this bitch is awful and I love it. Kelly: crazy and I love it. Alex: why is she here?

Now Lisa is saying Kyle and Kim wee right about Yolanda in Paris and that Yolanda tried to get Joyce to be anti-Lisa before filming started.. And it all reads as desperate spin because she knows she can't win against Yolanda using her typical tricks... http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-4/blogs/lisa-vanderpump/lisa-called-it-wrong?page=0,1&cid=show_cast_blogs

Yes, Brandi would have. But I don't think her not firing is an issue at all though. I think Brandi's very valid issue with Lisa is her using Brandi to create story and buzz for a show Brandi isn't on; for suddenly putting her and Scheena together with no heads up; for pushing Brandi to talk to Scheena about marriage. Beyond Scheena, I think Lisa has used Brandi to do some dirty work with the other women but I don't feel bad for Brandi because she hated them and wanted to so it. More than anything tho I think Brandi though of Lisa as a real friend, and when times got tough I don't think she felt Lisa was there for her, and actually choose to get close to Kyle suddenly. Brandi made the mistake of thinking anything real comes out of the real housewives, basically. I think it's telling that Brandi and Yolanda have the same issues with Lisa. Issues that every single cast member has mentioned about Lisa before and they defended her over. Being phony, basically. Now it's happened to them and they see. I also find it interesting that Kyle hasn't taken the chance to become Lisa's number one again, and actually it kind of makes me like her somewhat. I actually do not hate Lisa and I feel like it's come across that I do (ok and I do on VPR...) but I actually loved Lisa a lot over the years. I'd rank her as one of the best real housewives for sure. However, I do think a lot of what Kyle has accused her of over the years had some merit but I hated Kyle and loved Lisa so I didn't care. And I don't love love love Brandi, she's not my ride or die, and I think a lot of what y'all have said about her is true, but I do think that she genuinely felt that she Yolanda and Lisa were friends and Lisa's actions are showing her otherwise now. Now Brandi isn't dumb and I think def plays this up for the show, but I don't think Lisa is someone you can have a real deep conversation with about issues you have with her because she will just be defensive and deflect and walk away. As she seems to,do when Yolanda tries it. I also don't hateeeee Kyle but I greatly dislike her. Yolanda tho, I love. I love her because I just find her absolutely honest and blunt but not cruel. Basically, I don't think it's cut and dry, black and white, simple at all here. I think that the dynamics on rhobh are messy and wish the shawl had not wasted so much time in getting to this point. Really at least 4 episodes prior to this could have been condensed if not cut. This Brandi/Yolanda/Lisa/Kyle dynamic is where the show is at. They have extended taping in other season and should have for this one. I think that of Brandi/Yolanda/Lisa/Kyle return next year it could be great, but a lot can change in a few months.

Lisa does have a good Lin but it doesn't fit her season story arc at all. Yolanda's is the best and totally fitting.

Right now it seems like Lisa and Brandi are feuding as are Lisa and Kyle, Yolanda and Brandi, Yolanda and Lisa, Kim and Lisa, carlton and Joyce, Brandi and Joyce. Basically everyone but Lisa/carlton, Kyle/Brandi. And Kyle/Joyce tho it seems like Joyce is mad that Kyle mentioned that her father died when she didn't want that public.

I think it look like Yolanda takes her aside so they can discuss this in private but Lisa walks away and then Brandi comes over because she thinks it's about her, when Yolanda has her own issues with Lisa that Brandi doesn't seem to realize. Then of course Kyle and Kim join in. That 4 on 1 at the table doesn't seem to me like a gang up attack. It's Lisa vs Kyle and Brandi telling what happened. Ken gets involved before Brandi even speaks. He accuses them all of planning it before the others speak. Yolanda only gets involved to ask ken why he's so worked up and he calls her stupid. Kens the one that makes it a table wise fight.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they are not friends. Urgently or in recent times. Even if they are it's nowhere near comparable to Scheena. As we discussing with ATL I have no problem with friends being friends with someone their friends dislike. Except in an extreme distraction. And Scheena is an extreme situation. I think Brandi was as ok as one can be with her working for Lisa still. The issue seems to be more this season with Lisa pushing them to interact. Brandi interacted with her to start VPR, and that should have been the end of it. Not to mention this season it's clear Lisa has brought Scheena around a lot more in their non work life as well. But to bring her around Brandi and push Brandi to talk to her about marriage? Production or not I don't car it's a shitty thing to do. The reason Lisa walks away when Yolanda is confronting her is because Lisa can't control the conversation. She can't flip get script and turn it all on Yolanda. Because Yolanda isn't a Brandi or Kyle. And Yolanda is totally in the right when saying if something happened to changed Lisa's opinion of Kyle and M after crucifying them publicly and to her friends. I think her asking Lisa if they are real friends or Hollywood friends is more than warranted and it's it appears that Lisa brushes it off and then leaves as opposed to giving an answer. Honestly the sudden best friendship with Kyle again seems very fake. Don't even get me started on how men is talking to the ladies. Esp Yolanda. I don't think Brandi or anyone expected her to fire the girl. But not bring her around Brandi at non sur events. Not push Brandi to go talk to her about marriage. I'm not sure what's so understand about how that is not being a good friend by putting Brandi in oes situation. Those are moves of a show friend, not a real friend.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they are not friends. Urgently or in recent times. Even if they are it's nowhere near comparable to Scheena. As we discussing with ATL I have no problem with friends being friends with someone their friends dislike. Except in an extreme distraction. And Scheena is an extreme situation. I think Brandi was as ok as one can be with her working for Lisa still. The issue seems to be more this season with Lisa pushing them to interact. Brandi interacted with her to start VPR, and that should have been the end of it. Not to mention this season it's clear Lisa has brought Scheena around a lot more in their non work life as well. But to bring her around Brandi and push Brandi to talk to her about marriage? Production or not I don't car it's a shitty thing to do. The reason Lisa walks away when Yolanda is confronting her is because Lisa can't control the conversation. She can't flip get script and turn it all on Yolanda. Because Yolanda isn't a Brandi or Kyle. And Yolanda is totally in the right when saying if something happened to changed Lisa's opinion of Kyle and M after crucifying them publicly and to her friends. I think her asking Lisa if they are real friends or Hollywood friends is more than warranted and it's it appears that Lisa brushes it off and then leaves as opposed to giving an answer. Don't even get me started on how men is talking to the ladies. Esp Yolanda.

Damn this dinner party looks amazing. Ken needs to shut the !@#$%^&*] up to be honest. And Kyle was so correct when saying if this were reversed then Lisa would ask her point blank. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-4/videos/kyle-wants-the-tabloid-truth-from-lisa?cid=related_sfv_OCT13_A

Yolanda totally is on point and correct in this clip for next week. And as for Brandi, I do think she's overreacting however I think it's interesting Lisa claims she has called Brandi then when Brandi asks when she deflects and turns it around to ask Brandi when she last called her instead of answering. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-4/videos/is-lisa-brandi-s-friend-or-kyle-s

Wow at Lisa acting like she isn't aware of what the ring was, then denying pointing out they don't match to Kyle. I loved Yolanda shutting her down when she was trying to get Carlton to confront Kyle. I did like her calling Kyle out on even bringing the ring out. I do think Scheena is the real issue with Brandi about Lisa and I can't say I blame her. Gigi looks 14. The Yolanda/Davjd/Mohammed dynamic is great. I think Yolanda is one of the best cast members on any housewives show ever actually. She's very blunt and honest yet has a lot of compassion. She comes off very real and despite her wealth and lemon tree garden is very relatable. Very sad about Joyce's dad. Lisa is that friend that claims she's over it and has forgotten the past but really she hasn't. If she and Kyle really are friends she should be able to discuss this with Kyle and not talk over her or dismiss her. Ugh I hate myself for actually agreeing with Kyle throughout the entire episode. I can't wait for next week. Exoteric for Kim vs Ken. She's mad he called her out when she tried to attack them for not coming to a graduation party. Move on.

Quote frankly I think a video of née saying Mr Vixen I do not think Kenya should have Ben brought back and tried to stop it. Wouldn't com I me you. It's be edited and productions fault or nene was taken hostage and forced to say it or it was a hologram or so,etching. Lol. Kidding. Mostly. Exactly. And tbh Portia is even fine with me because she is a nice calm and actually kinda rational. Stupid. But whatever.

Kandi doesn't care enough to put on a show and try to steal the spotlight. She's secure both financially and in her spot on the show. As for Andy, he's not going to let anyone force him to cut a wife that is working and giving the show a lot to work with. He may cut a unpopular wife to appeal to a popular one, but nene isn't going to force him to cut Kenya. If she pulls the it's her or me card she's gone and choosing to quit. He can't help that. It'd hurt the show and he's not about that. The show doesn't need a star. Quite frankly as much as you talk nene being a star up she's some [!@#$%^&*] this season beside make herself look awful and Kenya look good. I actually not think nene should be off the show. I'd personally love it but what's best is all these women return honestly.

Andy. Rey. UCR has control of the wives series and wwhl. His step down wasnt really down, it was more of a shift to focus on what was working and have someone else come in and focus on new bravo shows. It was down in name only, up in power tho really. Kenya was a talking point last season above and beyond nene. Be it good or bad it was something. Production clearly didn't mind it was negative because they brought her back of nenes wishes. And this season has flipped and she's very much still talked about but for the. Ost part much more positively. Nene has basically no story without Kenya. Kenya actually has conflict and drama outside of nene. This whole Kenya is being given a good edit and production isn't manipulating footage to force nene to look good now argument basically proves what some of us have been saying. And I honestly didn't expect you to also go the blame production route. Nene is acting a. Damn fool on the show and IRL about the show. She has a very accurate portrayal. So does Kenya it would seem. In fact I'd say from what we have seen from the wives ATL is the least minuplated production wise. They all seem to get an edit that's rue to who they put out there. Nene got a big head and her 15min crashed and burned and now all she has rhoa after making it clear she planned to leave. She didn't want Kenya back but production brought her back instead. Nene threw the first punch in this battle and has lost and lost and lost. The fact that every single fan didn't turn on her yet doesn't prove anything. The fact that many, many have tho says a lot. Her star power is irrelevant. Her leading lady of ATL might not be but look at Vicki on OC, she's still standing but she's not exactly well liked, respected etc. that where nene is heads minus the control over production due to her ego. Andy is all about the show. Quite frankly he doesn't seem like like Brandi much at all but he knows she gets people talking and creates buzz. When everyone thought Kenya was a flop he knew that at least she had them talking. He knew that cutting the original NYC wives in half would hurt the shows ratings but did it anyways to better the show. He's a smart man. I'm not saying they are firing nene. I don't think anyone is. I am saying if she pulls a it's me or Kenya tho they will likely pick Kenya. That's not the same thing honestly. It's very different. Wow..

I think porcha will try to play the role she has this season. That of light, harmless fun and reason. She needs to go either way. I'd love it if Cynthia was called out.

Kenya is seriously playing nene so well http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-atlanta/season-6/videos/nene-has-her-eye-on-kenya?cid=related_sfv_OCT13_A

Those rh awards suck. The only thing worth voting for is take a Xanax and Brianna vs Brooks. Exactly. They are not working overtime. Kenya isn't early giving he. Anything negative to show. Be that an act or real I don't know. If it's an act it's sure a better one than she tried last season lol.

I think she looks best with the short blond hair but down, parted on like a side or all flipped over to one side. I can't find a pic but she rocked it like that at some point IRL and it was amazing how much better and more natural it looked. The pushed all back just makes her face look huge.

As for the reunion, nene will come for Kenya. Shady Fakedra will chime in. That's it, I think. I think kandi, Cynthia and porcha are smart enough to know the general reaction has been pro Kenya. Then ain't going to go against that. Now Cynthia may defend nene, and if Kenya comes for her she will come back, but that's goes for most. Reunion wise I'm most exacted for Cynthia vs Kandi and hopefully nays showing that Christopher did grab Kenya cuz apparently they didn't see it except for nene who defends it. And that's the other think. How amazing was it when nene said men shouldn't get involved in women business but she defended chris grabbing Kenya and told Kenya she's lucky she didn't get her ass beat? This phony ass bitch is showing how hypocritical she is.

So now it's poor innocent nene has the bitch edit while Kenya gets a great edit? Come on. Nene I think could easily get a worse edit than she is. She is acting IRL online the same way she's being edited on the show. Loud, aggressive, deflecting, acting innocent, not owning up to anything, as if she's better and above everyone, etc. this is who she has become.

Yup. She needs to just ride it and change next year. But I don't see it happening.

All she's going to do is get loud and talk over people. Yolanda and Brabdi are on cuz the new wife and Brandi used to model together.