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Does anyone happen to have August-September 2012 episodes when Sharon went nuts and took over Newman Interprises  I've been dying to find even clips of those episodes on YouTube but they are completely gone! I know that was a shitty time on Y&R and most of us hated the writing back then but I would love to see it again for shits and giggles.

Does anyone happen to have August-September 2012 episodes when Sharon went nuts and took over Newman Interprises  I've been dying to find even clips of those episodes on YouTube but they are completely gone! I know that was a shitty time on Y&R and most of us hated the writing back then but I would love to see it again for shits and giggles.

 

haha Oh yes, I do remember the shocking headlines that KM had landed a pretty raunchy role in some movie. I was relieved at the time, I figured that was a sure sign she'd be gone for quite a while. But, to top off my admission of missing the character in a way, I dread the thought of a recast. I've disliked every rendition of Bridget ever since Jennifer Finnigan left, I hope history doesn't repeat itself there.

 

Exactly. I really hope the whole Hope/Steffy thing isn't us having to put up with them fighting over a man for the next 15 years. I could never imagine any woman or man putting up with as much screwing around as these three, now Ivy added into the mix. Granted, I do like the Steffy/Ivy dynamic because they do seem alike in so many ways. And as for Bill, I would actually rather see a Bill/Steffy pairing again over Brooke/Bill/Katie. I find it amusing that with those two, their relationship seems to work for me, but Ridge/Caroline just does not. I cannot accept that the man that married her aunt nearly thirty years ago is now married to her niece, I just cannot do it.

 

haha It is sad that only a few years ago we were dreaming of the day that MAB was kicked to the curve, and now this is happening. Granted, I'm pretty much long past the days of dreaming for them to at least try and emulate the Y&R feel. I can't even narrow down to when exactly they last did that.

 

haha I'm pretty sure it was your channel. I almost completely forgot about it. I actually do still have the two farmhouse episodes from saynotoursoap on my old computer packed away somewhere in my house. In fact, there may be a lot more Y&R stuff on there that I may have backed up on it if they haven't been erased. B&B also. Oh, speaking of this, I finally got around to ordering the Paul and Christine hit and run storyline.

 

Yeah, I also remember hearing about LML just wanting to be rid of Sheila altogether. I'm not sure how far in advance scripts for Y&R are written, but since Kimberlin confirmed she was asked to come back, I have to wonder if, and if so, how much of that storyline was rewritten to suit the plastic surgery add-on. I can't lie, there are things in that storyline that I do like and can imagine was written for Kimberlin, but then there's A LOT that seems so rushed and so thrown in there at the last minute. Especially Pheila's final week, that entire climax of the storyline was so freaking OTT that it was unbelievably embarrassing. 

Yeah, I'm glad she has found some success....though I feel like that doesn't have to be about her walking around topless....LOL, KM does deserve to be apart or even star in her own primetime show......I agree I can only tolerate them recasting for so long...whether it's Y&R or B&B I just wish they would stick to one that works and not do anything, but when you think about it, it's usually their fault for not coming up with better material....I hate to say I almost feel guilty for liking some of the current recasts just because their part has gotten recast time and time again....

I wish Brad Bell sometimes wouldn't rely too much on the international success or whatever he thinks it is that has made the show successful with all the triangles over the years.....yes Brooke/Ridge/Taylor is a successful triangle but everything with the younger generation just hasn't worked out as well...at least as far as we the fans are concerned,so it's just better if they had dropped all that nonsense.....yeah Ivy/Steffy was interesting only cause I thought it would be refreshing to see 2 family members fight over Liam, but then it just turned into a mess with all the accidents.....yeah I have know idea why they can't do Bill/Steffy again, as I think it would explain a lot and like I said if Liam would leave in a huff because of that (hell, maybe he should just decide offscreen he's going to Europe to reunite with Hope LOL) it would be great to see! LOL I would love for Ridge just to explode on Bill though for being such a big hypocrict in regards to Bill getting with his daughter...

 

haha yeah and before that I'm sure everyone was waiting for LML to get shown the door and she lasted the shortest....it kind of gulls me now that they dare think Pratt is better then her...since you figured one of the reasons LML was fired was because they were so horrified at everything she did, but yet somehow they accept the antics of JFP and Pratt....and I get so sick of the "oh the ratings keep going up".....you are telling me it wasn't the same thing with LML cause she did lots of shocking things.....I just don't get it...

I'm gonna have to make a list of everything I have uploaded....I did that a while ago but I updated a bit of videos lately so it will be nice for everyone to have an organize list.....I'm so excited for those episodes!  I still haven't gotten the ones I ordered.....I don't even know if the check was delivered yet and with all the snow we got backing everything up I have a feeling it will be a while...:(

I'm sure some of the beginning Pheila stuff was written with Kimberlin in mind, but once they realized it wasn't working out as plan or had decided to kill her if that's what they weren't going to do originally , they just had Stafford ham it up as Pheila....

Oh, I rejoiced when I found out KM was leaving just so that love triangle would just die already. To be truthful, I think Ivy's been annoying me almost as much lately. Instead of her blaming Steffy for 'stealing' Liam away, I'd just love it if she called him out for being a spineless and gutless weasel, and not kissing his ass so much. I cannot believe that three women are in love with this guy, they might as well just arrange to have him in monthly intervals by this point.

I hate to bag on current Y&R again, because in a few years I pretty much have zero doubt what's airing now will be tolerable by comparison, but that is one of the more annoying aspects of JFP's reign: the music. It actually cheapens the show for me, I despise it. I don't think they could have compiled a more generic soundtrack if they tried. Hell, at least LML and MAB for the most part stayed consistent with using the old cues.

 

I think it was saynotoursoap. I found quite a few episodes that I'm sure we're on their channel once upon a time, such as the Grainger dinner and a 1990 episode where Sheila voices her opinion on Lauren to Scott, followed by her daydreaming about a life with him. Hell, this might have even been when you first started uploading now that I think about it. It was quite a while ago.

 

One thing I did appreciate during the scenes with Sheila digging up info on Michael was her horror that Lauren was able to forgive Michael for his horrible past. Like I've said in the past, not that I ever really root for Sheila despite loving her dastardly deeds, I would have been curious if that didn't absolutely infuriate her. 2005 definitely had its fair share of problems. But I do wonder what they had planned for Kimberlin when she was due to return at the end of 2006. They seemed so excited to have her back and intent on keeping her around for a while. It's a shame things turned out the way they did. 

Yeah I did too.....and it was nice not having either Hope OR Steffy on for a while but of course that didn't last............KM seems to have landed a few roles lately (including one where she showed her "you know whats", LOL) but I'm sure they will just recast Hope at some point......now that she's been mentioned lately you know it's coming....I would just honestly give Hope and Steffy a fresh start and realize it was silly feuding over Liam of all people.....they totally overdid it with the triangle so I feel like them being friends would be a lot more pleasant IMO......Liam can go for all I care......I would laugh if Steffy finally realizing she should go back to Bill is what sends Liam packing....

I freaking hate Y&R's soundtrack......it's every bit of generic as all the other soaps....(even B&B's music isn't as good) but what were we suppose to expect....? The thought of JFP and Pratt getting pushed out someday and then having someone who wants the old feel of the show back along with the music, would truly be a dream come true.....I can almost picture that happening maybe 5 years from now if Y&R is lucky.....haha.

I think those were from me....LOL my old channel that was public for a couple years was passnum1 (I forgot if you knew that) so I did upload those 2 episodes originally......I wouldn't be surprise if saynotoursoap also had those dates as I contacted him once and he told me he basically hand a handful of Sheila episodes...but he said he had the episodes where Lauren's "baby" Dylan dies....and Rex's funeral.....and I definitely do not have those episodes yet...haha.

I agree, I wouldn't know honestly if Lauren knew how much havoc Michael caused all those years ago....I feel like if the character is reformed they always suger coat it by saying things like "I made a lot of mistakes" or "I did some unforgiving stuff" not really giving the impressing of what they did exactly....It's hard to be certain but I do wonder if Kimberlin was suppose to be back longer if it weren't for her being in her accident......I shudder to think they would have still killed her anyways even though they did Pheila.....but apparently LML wanted to "finish the story" and that indicates Sheila's demise....

 

Oh yes I love it when they start out with the creepier background music, letting you know the villain will be front and center that day.....then it's always funny where they have to go to lighter scenes for some tension relief and they always seem to use that slow peaceful Violin music to contrast the scenes(3/7/91 for example when Nina is confronting David before she shoots him and then it jumps back to Paul at the hospital with Lynne when Lauren was about to give birth to Scotty)......That's why it's always so amazing when they have Katherine and Jill scenes play out the same episode as Sheila and Lauren scenes cause they really liked to show the contrast with Kay and Jill being the comic relief (for the most part)....despite their even bitter feud....That high pitched music box music that is played on the start of the 2/4/92 episode above always gives off more of a Sheila vibe to me.....It's one of my favorite cues but the fact that it has more of a distorted sound is pretty creepy.........

Hope did get very irritable towards the end and her playing both Wyatt and Liam, was just as bad as Liam playing her and Steffy and now him playing Ivy and Steffy (though I guess Steffy/Liam are suppose to be endgame....rolls eyes.....) I still wish people would have open their eyes more in regards to Steffy.....I could get Bill rooting for her cause he was almost with her himself (part of the reason why I think he's so obsessive of her being with Liam) but minus a few scenes I don't think Hope really deserved to get slammed by Bill as much as she did....I was kind of annoyed recently when Brooke was talking to Bill and Katie about Hope being in Monte Carlo, that Bill sort of rolled his eyes....like she's been out of the picture for over a year now and he's still being a prick about her......even though despite playing Liam and Wyatt she almost gave him a grandchild......

as for Ivy, it's hard to root for her, but I feel like she was thrown under the bus for Steffy once she came back.

LOL thank goodness once Lauren came back for good in 2001 she grew it out again.......I said this before but some women on soaps can make short hair work like Katherine and some just need to stick to longer hair......yes I forgot about Ashley in 2002 LOL

I didn't know that saynotoyoursoap had that episode? I know he said he had a bit of early 90's which sadly he never got around to uploading....(damn youtube) but I just remember those 2 farmhouse episodes being his big Y&R uploads.....

It's funny cause I feel like you almost have had to watch all of Sheila's 2005 stint before watching that scene with Michael meeting her.......I can't explain why but that's how I felt when I first saw that scene. Yeah I wish both Sheila and Michael had flashbacked to meeting each other cause She did look up Michael, while he was digging for info on her.......I feel like it would have been even better if once he heard the last name Grainger that would have triggered something inside of him and he would be like "I met this woman".....

I honestly still don't get however why they didn't include Cricket in most of the 2005 stuff along with maybe some of the flashbacks she could have remembered like the dinner party....it was more like "Oh yeah I had a brother and a nephew but I haven't seen him in years....Lauren and I aren't close enough to talk about it....."  I really wish we would have gotten a reaction from Sheila on Michael stalking Cricket Scott's sister.....so much was overlooked when you think about it.............

haha I did notice that.....but really, I know they started doing those in like 1988 or 1989, but it just made the show a lot more interesting to watch.....I sometimes cringe a little if an episode decides not to show it for some reason, LOL 

 

Oh Stephanie would loathe Quinn for sure......but I feel like she would totally just blame Quinn for everything and not really bother with Bill which would annoy me.....gosh I just hated how Stephanie while not actually doing anything had the gull to call Hope a "Logan" cause she was trying to save her relationship with Liam....Steffy was and IS still the Brooke there and Taylor and Stephanie had to be totally blinded by that......if anything I feel like Stephanie should have been warning Steffy that her antics with Liam are reminding her too much of Brooke. It just made no sense....I'm not saying Hope is totally innocent but she was ganged up on those years.....I get so annoyed when any show goes into that phase were all the manipulating people gang up on the "innocent" person while supporting the other girl's actions....almost like they are trying to put out "bad is more fun and good is boring"...

I can;t believe it's been almost 15 years that Jill's hair has never fully recovered....even the way it looks now,with it being sort of grown back isn't as appealing as it should be....

Oh G*D! you had to bring up that hideous short hair of Lauren's!...LOL, I still remember a comment made on one of those 2000 episodes when Lauren came back to help Mackenzie with the prom and was talking with Katherine, who also had a lot shorter hair then, that they looked like lesbian lovers. and they did, haha....I don't know what it was but it seemed like 1998-2001, the short hair look was in for practically all the leading divas on soaps.........Y&R had Katherine, Nikki,Lauren,Olivia (though she wore a wig mostly) and even Nina with really short hair, and on B&B Stephanie and Brooke got into it to (though Flannery's short hair was a wig too cause of cancer) I guess it was just a popular style then.....unfortunately for people like Lauren and Nina it just didn't look right...haha

here is the episode where Michael and Sheila meet

It is really weird how they didn't have Michael or even Cricket remember them meeting as you will see here SHE introduced them.....I don't know why it's hard to keep little details like that in check.....but I think it certainly would have been more interesting if Michael remembered this......though to be honest sometimes people do forget meeting people from a long time ago....

I still wish more of Lester's Jack was on youtube, I mostly have seen his final year in 1989, when he's really hamming it up.....I have a feeling if I were able to watch his entire stint I would probably think that Jack deserved all that Victor did with Jabot later.....Lester was the better A.hole as Jack then Bergman ever was.

It was a great story with Tricia shooting him, and yep Victor was in a good place and I liked that whatever he felt about Ryan in the past seemed to dissolve especially after he took the bullet for him....now I kind of wish Ryan had let Victor get shot....

Glad to see some Sandra Nelson love here. YR fan is right,Sandra's Phyllis was areal threat whereas from Day 1 I found Michelle's Phyllis to be too cartoony to be a real threat.I was waiting for Danny and Cricket to laugh at her and tell her to get lost...

 I feel like Y&R was the opposite of that for a while....while I admit the production was pretty solid till maybe 2005/2006, starting from even the early 2000's I don't think it was ever as good as it was before that.....the writing was at least strong though, so that's what held it together...IDK it just seems like the real classic look disappeared as early as before 1999 IMO....and it's kind of a weird obsessive thing to say, but I always love the episodes starting with the "CBS Sterosound" logo cause it made the show look more movie like....same with B&B, but I always like Y&R's better cause they start it with their background music most of the time....

Oh I agree, Stephanie really had it coming with all the stuff she pulled the first 5 years, whether she was driven to do it or not.....It's so sad that even today someone who had potential like Quinn to cause damage to characters who deserve it, like Bill have never full been developed and or made to look weaker then they should be.....and I say that cause I like Quinn and her causing Chaos to Liam was great fun....but Bill really deserves payback for just being a prick altogether....LOL

haha, yeah the scene was so perfect and to top it all off, Jill and Kay both looked so good int hat scene.....seriously I know the 80's/90's had some OTT wardrobe but the outfits are part of the characters and Jill's were a character of their own (like her long hair) which is why I cringed of how frumpy she dresses the last 12 years or so!

I love that episode and have watched it several times....haha, it's also crazy that in another 1992 episode Sheila met Michael when she was visiting Cricket....I would have never guessed they interacted before the 2005 stuff, Cricket introduced them and they shook hands, LOL he seemed so captivated by her.......I guess Bill Bell wanted Sheila to at least have one scene with the big male psychos at the time, for the fun of it...haha

 

 

I love that CBS Sterosound logo as well. The one thing I despise the most in regards to the first 'Best of' DVD release is they edited them out at the beginning of each episode, and not with much care because you can just hear the last section of the music cues they'd play over it.

Oh, I know what you mean, I LOVE Quinn! I'm disappointed Stephanie isn't around to witness all the chaos that she's caused. Can you imagine the hell she'd raise if she was around to discover her son nearly died in that helicopter accident because of Quinn and Bill? I'm hoping this is just the calm before the storm. I was worried after she nearly killed Liam that she wouldn't be around for much longer. 

Jill really has lost that larger than life sense of style hasn't she. Hell, no matter how campy an outfit looks, she somehow manages to make it look good. I absolutely HATED that shorter cut she adopted for all those years. Still, the one character out of everybody that made shout 'Oh, hell no!' in terms of hair style was Lauren back in 2000 when she had it cut beyond short. 

Oh wow, Sheila and Michael had met previously? I had zero idea. I can't even remember if it was mentioned in any of those 2005 flashbacks or what, but I was always under the impression they'd never met until she returned to GC. Good for Bill Bell though. If that was his intention to give Sheila and David a scene just for the hell of it, at least he was clearly having fun writing all of this. 

Yeah like I said, Ryan wasn't one of the characters that made an impression on me either when I was little, as I didn't even know he was on the show till I got into it......the first thing that caught my eye is how young he looked or how young Scott Reeves looked, like I know in real life he was 25 when he first came on(weird that he will be 50 this year!)  but he did only look 19-21 which was suppose to be the character's age anyways.....his wife actually always looked a bit older then him though she's a year younger which is kind of funny, still always thought they were an attractive couple (with attractive kids now I can say) of course I always have to throw in that I was stunned that Ryan came on so early as 1991 when Sheila's arc was in full swing....I said this before but visually the way both characters looked seemed miles apart from each other, yet they were on the same show for less then a year.....with Sheila's crossovers the next 2-3 years.....yeah I'm with you, though Ryan did start out as a sleaze he does represent the type of man Y&R lacks today (kind of Like Scott Grainger).....I'm sure if he were still around he would totally do a major 180 as most characters have...It would be cool if Reeves came back on another soap (maybe B&B) but I like that he's gotten some primetime stuff....he was recently on the MTV show "Finding Carter" and played an alcoholic abusive deadbeat dad who tried to reconcile with his son who's one of the main characters I guess but things got violent and he got sent to Jail.....it's weird cause at his current age I always said he would be good getting those types of roles now (probably cause he sort of has that look now) and that's exactly what it was........With that being said it was interesting that he was on an MTV show where I'm sure you know has all these young good looking people all over their shows, and he was now the adult after having that younger role for years on Y&R..................which of course was always so much more old fashioned (in a good way) then all the younger shows now.....

Phyllis really deserved that and Nina was the perfect person to do it, LOL, yeah I heard Sandra's Phyllis was pretty popular and I have seen a few clips and they were all good.....It's too bad she probably wasn't considered when they first decided they were going to recast Phyllis with GT...I mean SN probably doesn't act much these days, but I honestly thought that would be kind of cool to get her back.

The show's production is just godawful now.....jeez it has never looked so cheap and what's funny is that it's been that way for years now.....for the first 25-30 years or so Y&R's production looked so much more cinematic compared to the other soaps, and now it looks like some cheap school production if I'm being honest....I can't really say which soap has the better production (probably B&B) but Y&R is not at the top of the list...

haha I actually first discovered Brooke and Stephanie actually being enemies when I was watching the episodes of Stephanie going ballistic  on her at the big bear cabin when she was involved with Thorne.....haha i kept thinking Stephanie was so scary, but I remember liking all the flashbacks they showed of Brooke being a bitch to Stephanie and even then at the age of 8 I think I was rooting for Stephanie haha...of course I found out that Stephanie did some pretty awful stuff to Brooke but I think it was pretty even matched for the most part....Sheila being Stephanie's ultimate payback.....

Yes Lorie B's site I believe? that's a very good site that unfortunately I haven't visited often but they do seem to have almost every Stephanie scene which is great! They use to be on youtube which was better but of course the copyright idiots drove them away....

I feel like there is a void with Sally being gone....they tried to fill it with Pam and before I think Jackie, but it just never quite works......I have thought that if anyone could be the show's new Sally, Tawny would be a great choice....I always liked Andrea Evans so maybe that's why I'm thinking of that, but it would be kind of fun for her (and Amber) to come back and somehow she inherits or gets enough money to start a rival fashion house......I could see her and Brooke rebuilding that modern Stephanie/Sally rivalry considering how Brooke always felt about Amber....

Yeah David and Sheila being on at the same time is pretty fascinating......I think the first David scene I saw (which is in my episodes) is Jill squeezing David's balls at the hospital LOL.......when I realized that the scene was in 1991 while Sheila was still on there, I think I was just more shocked that Jill did something as crazy as Sheila would have done.......I always knew Jill was the show's bitch but that was such a psychotic dark thing to do and I always thought if Jill and Sheila were enemies it would be a bloodbath LOL.....but it's fascinating that Sheila and David DID have a scene. together, in one of my September 1991 episodes David breaks into John Silva's office (in his disguise) to look up Nina's will, then he has to hide behind a desk cause in walks John with Glenn Richards AND Sheila....who came wanting to know how they can keep her mother locked up without visitors (this was after Sheila made it look like Molly was gonna kill herself) David looked like he was so into Sheila's conversation but when they left all he said was "finally those morons left" and all I kept thinking is that if Sheila had advanced hearing, David would have been a dead man....LOL

 

haha I will be honest I am excited to see the hit and run part, but I'm also excited that these episodes apparently have scenes of Lauren interacting with Ryan and Nina, cause they were bridesmaids (Nina was the MOH of course) and Ryan was the best man (IDK why???) at Paul and Cricket's wedding which of course was suppose to happen......I always feel like they never interact in any of the old episodes except when the group is all together, so it will be cool to see that, LOL..

My main problem with Stafford, was that though she is the definite Phyllis, I always got fed up with how much she complained about stories behind the scenes.....I feel like she's another person who never liked to see Phyllis lose so they caved to her and had her come out on top sometimes.....I LOVED it when Nina slapped the hell out of her a few years back! I was praying so much for that to happen and it finally did.....I think I was shaking cause I thought Phyllis had a "no slap" thing too, LOL.

with that said I do wish more of early Phyllis circa 1994-1996 was available.....Gina is a great actress, but you can't deny how dumbed down Phyllis is and I just roll my eyes at her and Jack cause ugh.....I just don't buy this great love of theirs. I guess they are endgame, but that doesn't mean I have to endure that LOL

Believe, I often do daydream about that ONE writer who will want to sit down with Braeden and really talk some much needed sense as to why he shouldn't dictate how Victor's story will be played out.....I know it's terrible but I feel like it would be kind of awesome if Braeden even gets emotional...almost like a therapy session....I would personally (and I know this sounds like really bad) tell him, think about all this villains that you watch on disney movies with your granddaughters.....they all have to pay at the end.....I know this is a soap, but would YOU get tired of watching villains with never pay for there crimes, then work their way back up???

SF apparently started that clause after KKL really slapped her during that big BELIEF fight. She insisted that Brooke actually slap Stephanie back for once cause it hasn't happen, but then was like "NO MORE!!!"..... of course I don't get that since she was slapped 2 or 3 other times by Brooke......maybe KKL was the exception...LOL

I honestly always had more of a recollection of B&B characters then Y&R......maybe cause it was a small cast, and even then I always sensed Y&R was a huge cast, but besides Victor, Nikki, Jack,Katherine, Cricket, Nina, Paul etc (oh and the Winters though I never got their names when I was that young LOL they were just the black people to me when I was little haha)......I never really had such a strong recollection for most of the Y&R people as bad as it sounds......I honestly didn't realize characters like Jill, Lauren,Danny,Ashley,John, Victoria,Ryan etc.....existed on the show until I started watching old clips...LOL I know that sounds bad.....I think the first time I realized Lauren and Sheila were enemies was when I watched her fighting with her in the wedding dress, and I was like "gosh this red headed woman sounds so annoying....who is she?, why does it seem like she hates Sheila so much then Stephanie?  etc....haha......then I got introduced to the lab fight and it was like "woah this isn't B&B....."the music sounds soo scary".....yikes those screams at the end......LOL then I did my Sheila Y&R research and the rest was history...LOL

I have to agree there, I remembered a lot more of the characters from B&B than Y&R. Y&R however appealed to me more because it was the 'darker' soap in my eyes, the storylines intrigued me much more than B&B. I think because as you said with B&B being the more campy soap and injected a lot more comedy than Y&R, that was what pushed me more towards Y&R.

 

haha Yeah, I did a lot of Y&R and B&B research on YT too. As much as I do have a soft spot for the early 2000s because that was the Y&R I remember, I could not believe how much good stuff I had missed out on. B&B I'd disliked for years by this point, but it was the same result. I could not believe how much Sheila alone had committed before I was properly introduced to her in her 2002 stint, on two soaps no less! I had no idea she and Lauren had so much history together. One of my favourite experiences however was finally getting to see just when and how the Stephanie and Brooke feud began. 

oh yeah, I agree with you on Y&R being the darker soap as another thing that stuck with me as a small child was how dark looking the show always seemed....I think I probably said to myself "why does it look like it's always nightime" LOL of course way later I learned it was intentionally like that and even now that's a characteristic I'm sad the show has lost forever.....

The B&B research led me into Y&R research LOL.....all I did basically was remember things about the show like Sheila, Sally and Brooke/Stephanie fighting (as I've always had a soft spot for mother/daughter in law's feuding because of a son.....like Kate/Sami LOL) 

Of course I became very intrigued with the all the stuff Sheila committed on Y&R but back then when I was just getting into all that stuff I was just stunned how much I learned she basically was in her own bubble.....for some reason it was always the younger Y&R characters at the time I was more interested on how Sheila would effected them if they crossed paths....people like Victoria,Ryan,Nina cause visually I probably would have liked to see them all standing side by side, especially since Scott Reeves was such a baby faced person who I couldn't believe once had such a beautiful mature looking woman like Kimberlin as a co star(I seriously probably would ask him in person point blank what he thought of Sheila since that was basically the big story going on when he first came on LOL), but I'm glad now they she never crossed path except with Lauren, Scott, Paul and a few others....

 

awesome!  between you getting those episodes and the ones I'm getting there will be a lot to look forward too!

I think Bill Bell was afraid that Sheila would be too much for Victor to handle which is why it was smart of him not to have them meet (or at least not have story together) and ugh.....it still annoys me how much Stephanie really did become a female Victor......she really could have used one more visit from her old pal Sheila before she died......it was sad to see her go granted, but she was just an insufferable witch towards the end....I know Flannery comes off a lot more likable then Braeden IRL but the fact that she had a "no slapping Stephanie" clause in her contract (well....maybe the last 6 or 7 years) kind of made it really ridiculous as Stephanie would've been slapped several times for all the stuff she said.....it was more like Stephanie always said all these hurtful things and someone would retaliate by insulting her back then it was....SLAP!!! haha.....yup such a Victor Newman thing, except he punches people out knowing damn well he deserves a big knock out too...LOL

Yeah Katherine really didn't have to go there, and Jill was actually correct when she said "what do you deserve then?" I will always love Katherine but sometimes I feel  like after the first decade most of the town never realized how much of a manipulative person Kay could be in the early years of the show when Jill was working for her.....I know it was all character driven how Katherine sort of grew out of that sinister side of her, and Jill became more harder and bitchier, but the problem I feel with Katherine AND Victor is that unlike DOOL where the whole town knows Stefano is basically the devil and treat him that way....I feel like sometimes it would be better if all along people knew of Victor as this horrible ruthless man instead of everyone mostly kissing his feat and bowing towards him as this great human being (if you watch the episode I just uploaded from June 15, 1993 which is Victor's funeral, though it wasn't Victor who died you will see what I mean) I guess that's one thing that made Y&R unique that it was the soap's where the anti heros can be the leading character's in a way......but in retrospect I think all of G.C gave Victor too much credit.....and it's like when people like Sheila eventually come along, who sort of did suffer for the havoc she caused, you kind of think it's such a waste not to see Victor defeated more often.....I know back then there were rare occasions, but even then he was mostly treated as an anti-hero....I hope this all makes sense LOL...

I honestly always had more of a recollection of B&B characters then Y&R......maybe cause it was a small cast, and even then I always sensed Y&R was a huge cast, but besides Victor, Nikki, Jack,Katherine, Cricket, Nina, Paul etc (oh and the Winters though I never got their names when I was that young LOL they were just the black people to me when I was little haha)......I never really had such a strong recollection for most of the Y&R people as bad as it sounds......I honestly didn't realize characters like Jill, Lauren,Danny,Ashley,John, Victoria,Ryan etc.....existed on the show until I started watching old clips...LOL I know that sounds bad.....I think the first time I realized Lauren and Sheila were enemies was when I watched her fighting with her in the wedding dress, and I was like "gosh this red headed woman sounds so annoying....who is she?, why does it seem like she hates Sheila so much then Stephanie?  etc....haha......then I got introduced to the lab fight and it was like "woah this isn't B&B....."the music sounds soo scary".....yikes those screams at the end......LOL then I did my Sheila Y&R research and the rest was history...LOL

Oh yeah I know who that is LOL.....I think they also mostly have every dates that are the same from the other sellers......the ioffer one is a little more exclusive as that does eventually get updated with more stuff....even if it takes forever.....haha (but it's worth it) 

haha no problem! it would be cool if you got those dates!

I think Sheila would have probably been up Victor's ally in regards to woman.....at least until she stabbed him in the back (maybe literally LOL) granted I'm glad they never interacted during her original run, especially since she would have just become Victor's latest pawn in a scheme against someone......(Victor decides Michael needs to "pay" for something and unleashes Sheila on Lauren....again...LOL) but I do think Victor deep down admired Sheila's crazy, haha.....you have to remember Eve Howard scared Victor a little in the 80's.....

I actually also really liked seeing Nikki's reactions towards Sheila too in those episodes as it sort of seemed like they made it hit her in a more personal manner if that makes sense, cause remember Nikki once upon a time was gonna be Scott's step-mother....I know Nikki/Lauren onscreen were never closed even if they are friendly with each other, but since Nikki at one time was sort of close to Scott because of his dad I'm sure she got an earful about Sheila (maybe even met her once) even though Scott and Nikki didn't interact all that much once Sheila was in full swing.....but the way Nikki said some of her lines about Sheila..."She's evil, she's just evil...." "She knew exactly what she was doing" kind of sounded more like she was remembering all the hell that her almost former Step-son and Step-grandson for that matter went through....

 

Haha I love it! It's so strange cause that was the only real bad thing I remember Sheila doing back then, but even though I knew she was "the bad lady" cause she was always so mean looking LOL.....her and Sally stood out the most from my childhood.....

boy, typing all this just makes me more sad how even if not all the kids our age grew up watching soaps like we do, I'm sure they would still be able to tell you their memories of certain characters like Sheila back then if their parents watched.......today's children (Including my baby nieces) will probably never have any real knowledge or recollection of soaps as they get older (of course by the time most are our ages they will probably be all gone)

Speaking of Pheila, can you imagine Gina playing that in flashbacks

It's also depressing as not only did we lose Sheila forever (maybe) Scotty was sent packing too.......my goodness if they had the slightest care that man would have been able to start the next generation of Grainger/Fenmore's (AND Abbott's/Carlton's if he did get with Colleen like....ahem.....he was suppose too)....seriously it's not too late, and it's not that hard to find a tall dark and handsome actor to play him now, LOL

Yes i'm so excited! I just love getting all the full 1993 crossover episodes even if most of the actual Sheila clips are not exactly all that new (maybe some will be) I am a little worried that the dates might be wrong as that happens from time to time, but we will see.....haha

in case you were wondering, this is who I will be getting those episodes from.....not sure if you have seen his page, but he's the one most of the episodes I have collected are from and he also taped them and saved them originally...

http://www.ioffer.com/i/the-young-and-the-restless-full-episodes-581842228

The ones I'm getting that he just added are Oct 19,20,21,22,25,26, 1993 (hopefully all or most of those dates are right LOL) I got the other 1993 dates from my French friend who's list I believe you are referring too and he DOES have the Paul and Cricket getting run over episodes! Dec 27,28,29,30 1994 I believe.....I was gonna get those eventually, but please if you are interested you should get them too!

haha I'll be honest and probably jump around those 07 episodes with Pheila just to watch her scenes and see people's reactions.....it was just fun getting to hear all of G.C react to Sheila...haha...

Can't thank you enough!  still not sure if I will be able to watch 1/11/06 eventually without being sad....haha

 

For some great news though........You know how I was saying recently how it would be nice to see the full episodes of Sheila coming back to see Scott before the catalina trip? well my seller has updated his 1993 with those dates and I have placed my order!  haha.......

haha I think some of our first memories of Y&R/B&B are always something Sheila related!.......I swear Sheila pushing her shrink off the balcony was the first memory  I have of her when my mom watched back then....LOL I was 3 years old....