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Buck would never have been in the hospital!

I'm sorry, I had to.

Incidentally, here's something I didn't know and I apologize if it's been posted: Carol was supposed to die in Episode 3 of Season 3.

Melissa McBride confirms it was Carol.

I knew two things going into this episode: One, that Tyreese would not die, because I remembered that scene from the trailer and it is identical to one from the comics where a suicidal Tyreese seemed certain to die and turned up alive through sheer force of will. That scene was almost beat for beat from the comic, with only the setting and minor details transposed.

The other thing I knew going into tonight was that Carol did it. Y'all didn't want to believe me last week, but I knew. I knew the moment I saw the look in her eye when she talked to Carl about telling Rick about the classes - that look was something new. She was capable of it, and I knew she did it. And she's obviously being set up as the counterpoint to Rick for this season. Rick is struggling to hang onto his humanity and not become his old, harder self out of necessity, while Carol is coming into her own necessary evil and facing the impossible decisions head-on. I am almost positive now that this is Melissa McBride's last year with the show - sooner, possibly, than later, maybe even before the break - but I think she is doing an incredible job and if it's her last storyline it's a great one to go out on. In a way she's a much more empathetic, relatable Lady Macbeth.

Another person probably doomed: Poor Herschel. That speech Scott Wilson gave was absolutely incredible. I was just crying. What a man. I suspect Glenn and possibly Sasha (please!) will make it, but Herschel will have sacrificed himself to keep them hanging on.

To my knowledge (and it's vague on this little storyline) they never fully pulled the trigger on Marty and Andrew, though Malone desperately wanted to with their quasi-affair around that time. He later revisited it in a lame way with Joey and Jen Rappaport, who even got freaky in the pews at St. James.

I remember Andrew and the amnesiac Marty had some great scenes at the church in late 2008, as she tried to rediscover her life. That was one of Bob Krimmer's last appearances. I always wanted them to actually go there, or to at least reunite him with Cassie, even offscreen.

Ellen Bethea was almost certainly replaced shortly after this - I mostly remember Mari Morrow with Peter Parros. I don't understand why they ended Kevin and Rachel.

Jesus, some of these sets from the late '70s look like they haven't been renovated since Day 1. It's like Dark Shadows infrastructure and tone - when everything about the "present-day" storylines and vibe seemed off and weird in some way.

I'll jump out mine if you jump out yours.

I am. I am one of those people, who's still watching The Wire and riding a buggy.

Every time the Internet mentions Breaking Bad to me it goes further down my Netflix queue.

A woman could've done that. Certainly, if they were already weak and/or bleeding out.

Most people seem to think it's army medic Bob a.k.a. D'Angelo Barksdale though, and that's probably correct. Disposing of them - if they're dead, that is - would likely be field protocol.

So I'm sure this has been posted before, but I am posting it again because I am currently enjoying it. From the week of August 17th, 1992.

I remember an old story about how in certain markets they heavily promoted Nathan Purdee and Tonja Walker together as though Hank and Alex were a couple. The chemistry was very obvious here. Yet they never pulled the trigger, apparently.

Watching this makes me think I'd love to see Alex back in Cutter's business in Season 2 on TOLN should that glorious day ever materialize - maybe in a scheme with Natalie involved as well, just as Cain and Tina were back in the day. I did love Karen Witter's Tina.

I loved Luna so much as a kid. They would never let Susan Batten be frontburner today.

I thought that was a pretty fantastic episode. There's scenes in there, duets with "minor" characters that would not have seen the light of day a couple years ago. Certainly not the Beth stuff, or the now much more prominent role for Carol, which Melissa McBride is taking by storm - she has such a core of strength and grace, and I don't fault Carol for what she did. That Carol/Carl palace intrigue scene is also something we'd never have gotten before. Those were amazing scenes with the father and the kids as well, and the little girls were quite good. If McBride and Danai Gurira do not warrant a nom next year it will be beyond me. Just that one wordless scene with Michonne and Judith was incredible.

I felt bad for poor Karen, but I was just glad it wasn't Sasha (though I still fear she is doomed -

and clearly based on the above clips, she is

). And poor Rick and the farm!

They're freaking me out on a lot of characters' potential to get sick. I got a twinge on both Maggie's dazedness at the fence, and Michonne having such an extreme reaction to the baby's crying. That may just be her PTSD re: her own child, but when they pitched the sound FX up I thought it was the illness.

I don't think it was a psycho who burned Karen and the other dude, or the Governor. I think someone burned them because he or she knew they were infected and decided they couldn't take the risk for the rest of the community. I don't know if that person bled them out or if they were bleeding out like Patrick on the way outside. The question is who would make that executive decision. I know all the obvious suspects, but frankly my first thought - after tonight - was Carol. She is fast becoming the shadow council, making the hard choices under other people's noses. I'm not condoning burning them per se, but I saw it when she was talking to Carl. She was not [!@#$%^&*] around. I can buy that evolution because I think Carol's come a long way - I don't think it's like her sudden bout of Kirkman PMS at the end of the Season 2 finale - but it is still a bit bracing.

It depends on how much they deviate from the comic. I think Daryl is the main draw for many now so I think he'd survive over Rick.

I don't think so. That may be part of the fandom reaction for some, but it doesn't apply to the larger audience or the show's aims.

I don't think they'll do anything to Rick until the show is over.

I like Daryl a lot, but I thought he was going to buy it last year and be replaced by Merle. I think he's got maybe another year or two in him, but at this point it's inevitable that they're going to start killing more of the old guard.

I'm pretty sure

Sasha is doomed sooner or later. The preview pointed to that pretty heavily, and a similar familial death is what caused Rick and Tyreese to come to blows in the comic book, although I believe this plague storyline is all new.

Yet another GL alum does Grand Theft Auto V - Beth Chamberlin as black widow Abigail Mathers, a side mission character.

For the record, also, here's Robert Bogue as corrupt "FIB" (FBI) agent Steven Haines, one of the key villains of the game. He's often seen in active missions, but he also is a TV star who hosts a "true crime" show, as seen here.

I have seen little of the original Andy, but I found her creepy as [!@#$%^&*]. Wendee Pratt was mine.

IIRC, they made Hunter Guthrie an abuser.

They did say Andy cheated on Antonio, which I never bought, being a huge fan of theirs as a kid. Originally JFP was going to say Andy was killed in the line of duty, but KDLR refused that.

Patrick and Marty and Antonio and Andy were both Malone couples. And I loved them both.

(Check your PMs!)

Yeah, AMC has been nickel-and-diming their premiere hits from the start (including Mad Men at one point, and I don't care much for that show). They claim to want to play in the big leagues but act like they're running TBS, or still running the old Roy Rogers Westerns that TCM doesn't want like they did back in the '90s and early 2000s. It's ridiculous.

I have a terrible feeling that

Sasha also gets the plague. There was a shot of her in a trailer a few months back, stumbling through the halls, which was uncannily identical to the fate of poor Vincent Martella in yesterday's episode.

I don't think a lot of that WD audience - or many of the people behind television, frankly, especially at the AMC executive level - are ready for the idea of pairing the show's lead hero with a warrior woman who's a dark-skinned African-American who could probably snap Andrew Lincoln over her knee. That said, I think they're the pairing to beat and I wish they'd have the courage to do it. The chemistry is huge and all over the scenes.

I don't recall one, but I don't really read them anymore.

Poor little Vincent Martella and Kyle Gallner. Too pretty to survive.

I liked that a lot. Reminded me a lot of the original Survivors, as Carl and I have talked about. I hope it's playing well with the rest of the audience. The plague is bad, bad news - it clearly started with the livestock.

What doesn't excite him actually excites me.

Joe also had a fling with the young Cathy Craig, IIRC.

Dorian had young Dan Wolek before Joey, apparently. Who'd have thought?