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  1. Jefferson Brown, aka faux Sky Whitney, on EON...hands down shocked me the most.  He was in one of the most popular pairings with Raven. And I loved "Sky" & Raven. But they wrote that, despite his love for Raven, he decided he had to kill her to keep her from revealing his secret. Instead, he was shot to death by Damien Tyler in Switzerland. My teen-aged self was bawling my eyes out along with Raven, plus I didn't want Larkin Malloy off the show. 
    Of course, unbeknownst at the time, they would come up with the story that the real Sky was still alive so we got our second version of Sky & Raven. 
     


  2. On RH, we had the retcon of Faith's resentment towards Jill being created to bolster the Frank/Jill/Faith story.

    One retcon that bugged me at the time was on GL with Jenna. She, Harley and Phillip were trying to get the goods on Jenna's husband, Geoffrey Morgan, and Harley was pretending to be "Starla". At one point, Jenna had to distract Geoffrey from discovering Harley. She managed to do this without having to sleep with him, and said as much to Harley later. And there was no sex scene shown, as would be typical for a soap. However, later, the story became that she did have to sleep with Geoffrey and conceived Rocky in the process.


  3. I would venture to say, however one may feel about it, that the most successful retcon, strictly in terms of what it did for the show, was GH turning Laura's rape into more of a seduction. Realizing that the popularity of the Luke character was growing, plus Asher Brauner, who played Roy, was leaving, they made Roy the doomed mob assassin instead of Luke and began to put a lot of their eggs in the L & L basket.This not only took the show to a hugely popular level but influenced what other soaps did.


  4. The good: trying to come up with one but it's tough

    The bad: OLTL - Viki's ever-changing history, between long-lost children, the start of her DID...she must hold some sort of record for most ret-conned character, probably followed by Asa, at least in long-lost children scenarios.

    The ugly: GH - Laura bore a Cassadine during her captivity. I loathed the reintroduction of that family, particularly Helena.
     


  5. I had taped a lighthearted episode of Geraldo once that featured celebrity bachelors and how they would approach women. This was the late 1980s and among the guests were Robin Leach, Yakov Smirnoff, Jack Wagner, Keith Hernandez, Cleavon Little, Storm Field and Russ Anderson, who was playing Steve Holden on OLTL at the time...and would come out of the closet years later. 

    This one was more a personal feeling but Larkin Malloy was one of my early favorites from when he was on EON. First, he got hit by a car. Then he had some kind of apparent meltdown on a hotel balcony in Italy, I think it was. From then on, I got this concern in my head that the man was not going to have a long life. Even though he went on to continue working (not always in front of the camera) for decades and had basically a normal life, I just felt like he was going to go too early. When he passed in his 60s, part of me was stunned and another part of me was like I knew it was going to happen even though I had hoped it wouldn't.
     


  6. Whenever I try to identify where I've seen an actor before, it's either from Star Trek or the soaps. Those are my 2 biggest frames of reference. 

    The singer Anne Murray...she always reminded me of Erika Slezak because of the hair. I can't see Anne without thinking Viki.

    When I hear the name Duke anywhere, Ian Buchanan pops into my head.

     


  7. On 3/16/2018 at 2:09 PM, Faulkner said:

    Did Harley and Lucy ever interact? I thought there might have been overlap before Harley left with Mallet. 


    There was a brief interaction with them in the diner immediately after Harley & Mallet's wedding, which was the couple's exit from the show. Lucy had just arrived and had been sitting in the diner, angrily waiting to confront wayward father Buzz while the party was going on outside. Neither knew who the other was and Lucy made a comment to Harley about how pretty she looked in her wedding dress. I think Harley even glanced back at Lucy with a quizzical look right before she left.
     


  8. 2 hours ago, Khan said:

     

    Oh, how I wish there WERE a same-sex team on the US version.  If only to see the heads of all those perky, (faux) blonde soccer moms from the Midwest who still watch the show explode.  (Figuratively, of course.)


    This particular team, the celeb was a middle-aged guy who wasn't very good. If the couple was that caliber over here, anybody who wasn't aghast would probably see it as a joke. If DWTS ever wants to push that envelope, one hopes they would pick someone who turned out to be a good dancer.

    A slight aside....I subscribe to a couple of Italian cable channels and some of their game shows are a lot more risque than normally you see here on mainstream channels. Very scantily-clad buxom models and references to them, guys in the audience wolf calling, women charging the stage to kiss the supposed male hottie, contestants' weights, looks and quirks being made fun of, skits where people are made up to look and act like ethnic stereotypes (Japanese, Russian, Sicilian, etc.). Some of their game shows are like game/variety shows combined. One show is a competition where celebrities have to imitate famous singers each week, including being made up to look like them, which includes white people being made up to look black. They also seem to have a greater fascination with their versions of the reality shows like Big Brother, Survivor, etc., not only airing them often and longer (sometimes episodes are 2-3 hours) but talking about them on other programs often. At least, those are my impressions based on what these 2 channels choose to air for their US viewers. I'm a first generation Italian-American so, while I understand the language (some of it), seeing their pop culture and just how they behave and think overall is an interesting contrast. They do seem to really enjoy American pop culture, past and present, as well.
     


  9. Yeah, I've seen bits and pieces of the Italian version. The production value is way below the US version, even the pro dancers seem less skilled. Five judges, a lot more talking. And I guess if we can use a Brit announcer on the US version, they can use a (very) foreign score announcer there....it just sounds so cheesy. And one thing I saw I've never seen on the US version...a same sex team.


  10. Is Don Diamont still on whatever CBS soap he was on (Y & R I think...never watched)? I just saw him get eliminated from the Italian version of Dancing With The Stars (Ballando Con Le Stelle).


    A few weeks ago I saw Katherine Kelly Lang on an Italian talk show, The Mauricio Costanza Show.

    I know those soaps are big in Italy.

     

     


  11. •Lost - I was in those droves that bailed after the first couple of seasons...too many characters, too convoluted
    •Under The Dome - I was getting tired of Big Jim killing everybody but when they gave Dale alternate reality amnesia or something like that, I knew the fork had been stuck in
    •Once Upon A Time - after last season when half the cast left
    •CSI - like has been said, too long the same thing

     


  12. Bea Arthur, Rue McClanahan - Maude, Golden Girls
    Micky Dolenz - Circus Boy, The Monkees
    June Lockhart - Lassie, Lost In Space
    Rod Serling - The Twilight Zone, Night Gallery
    Fred Gwynne, Al Lewis - Car 54, The Munsters
    Martin Landau, Barbara Bain - Mission Impossible, Space: 1999. Martin aso recurred on Without A Trace as Anthony LaPaglia's dad.
    Valerie Bertinelli - One Day at a Time, Hot in Cleveland
    Robert Urich - Vegas, Spenser For Hire
    Avery Brooks - Spenser For Hire, ST: DS9 (I don't count the Hawk spinoff, too short)
    Katherine Helmond - Soap, Who's The Boss, recurred on Everybody Loves Raymond
    Robert Guillaume -Soap, Benson
    Ethan Phillips & Rene Auberjonois - Benson, then DS9 for RA and Voyager for EP
    Michael Dorn took the character of Worf from TNG to DS9
    Richard Anderson was on Perry Mason towards the end of its run, then played Oscar Goldman on both bionic shows.
    Lyle Waggoner - The Carol Burnett Show, Wonder Woman
    Conrad Bain - Maude, Diff'rent Strokes
    Robert Picardo - China Beach, ST:Voyager
    Lorenzo Lamas - Falcon Crest, Renegade

     


  13. Vincent Gardenia did well as far as guest spots on tv but when he recurred on All In The Family as Frank Lorenzo, he grew tired of having to sit around all week waiting to go on. He asked to be written out.

    Genevieve Bujold was Captain Janeway on ST: Voyager for about a day when she realized she couldn't do it.

    And from the original Star Trek pilot would be Jeffrey Hunter (Captain Pike), whose then-wife convinced him a tv series (and a scifi one at that) would be beneath him. When they encapsulated the unseen pilot into a 2-parter in Kirk's time, they hired another actor to play the-now disfigured Pike.

     


  14. Add to William Shatner he hosted Rescue 911 for 6 years. 
    Add to Scott Bakula Star Trek: Enterprise, although "hit" might be a dubious term for it.

    Leonard Nimoy: Star Trek, Mission:Impossible, In Search Of
    Bill Bixby: My Favorite Martian, The Courtship of Eddie's Father, The Incredible Hulk
    Richard Dean Anderson: Macgyver, Stargate:SG1, plus he was on General Hospital for about 5 years
    Ted Wass: Blossom, Soap
    Raymond Burr: Perry Mason, Ironside
    James Brolin: Marcus Welby, Hotel
    Jack Klugman: The Odd Couple, Quincy


     


  15. The first couple of episodes are really good in setting up the premise of the show and getting the team into place. There is a strong resemblance between the two Daniels and Shanks makes the role his pretty quickly. RDA wanted Jack to have more of a sense of humor than in the film and I liked his Jack right off the bat. It's a nice ensemble. Already you can see the show is serious, funny, sad, intelligent, silly. There will be some clunker episodes as with all series but, overall, it's really good.

    A bit of personal trivia...the actress playing Sha're had a relationship with Shanks and they have a child but broke up before the series ended.


  16. Grimm - I still kinda miss those guys, especially the Nick/Monroe bromance.
    Barney Miller
    All In The Family - yes, the family dynamic changed but, simply put, Carroll O'Connor was still great to watch


    I do have a predisposition towards the various Star Trek series and watched them all beginning to end with varying degrees of enjoyment. But that is like one of my tried and true, go-to places when I want to either "hang out" with some old familiar friends or just visit that particular universe.

     


  17. With so many OLTL mentions, the one that stood out to me is Jerry verDorn as Clint. Granted, the role was, quite literally, made for Clint Ritchie so nobody was going to even come close. Clint (the actor and character) was my favorite on OLTL and I really also liked Jerry on GL so, while I liked Jerry being on OLTL, it was just so different. It was like Ross Marler with a bit of a cowboy flavor. 
     

    16 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

     

    ...and didn't have the stigma of being a sociopath in Dirty Harry (though AR was the only Frank to earn an Emmy nomination).


    I thought AR's Frank was great as Mary's brother, they had a great sibling chemistry and it's where he and Kate Mulgrew started their lifelong friendship. But he didn't quite fit what I think was the JFK mold they seemed to have intended with Frank. Terrific actor but he just had a few things working against him, I think. The Dirty Harry thing, plus, with his looks, he seemed less like a stereotypical hunky leading man and more of a character actor. More Emmy-worthy than Sexiest Man of the Year type thing.
     

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