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I find it intriguing that more people in social media are concerned about the possibility of never seeing a live action Barbara Gordan, rather than closing a tax loop that would allow a company to willfully admit about deliberately taking a loss in order to recoup the money off the back of the taxpayers.
I just read that HBO Max and Discovery + combined have 95 million sub, which they fret about while Paramount + has 93 million subs and considers that a victory. As an investment neophyte it sounds like a scam.
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I feel like if I put up the multi-episode-when-the-story-could-be-told-in-20-minutes schlock on Netflix, and Prime Video which I always forget about, and 9 bucks for Spotify just so I don't hear the same commercial on repeat every 10 minutes, $4.99 for DAYS and Bravo seems like a bargain for the entertainment value.
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The one John Conboy signature move that I always associate with his production style is the way that at the beginning of an episode the camera would sneak around the room from behind a pillar or through a railing to observe the characters as if the audience was peering into the action.
You see it on SB, as well as in the Clegg living room on Capitol. So, I wonder if that was part of his motive to change the Capwell Villa?
I preferred the lighting on the old set, but I also enjoyed the shots through the archways that provided a meta-commentary on the voyeuristic nature of being a soap fan.
Also, the Megan/Greg retcon took away from one of CC's only redeeming qualities which was his devotion to his kids and grandchildren. Why would he have gone through so much trouble to find a home for Brandon, but ignore Greg? It made no sense.
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I get that soap fans don't like change. However, it feels like the argument for why people wouldn't pay for cable in the 1980s. The decision was clearly not based on quality, it is part of the change that is happening across media and any hopes of change in production or writing seems to come from left field.
Articles about CBS affiliates wanting more cheap local news, as well as the rise of Paramount+ seems to predict a similar fate for Y&R and B&B. -- https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-plus-subscribers-earnings-report-advertising-1235191826/
Finally, the argument that many here are unwilling to pay $5 for Peacock seems erroneous when "the average household cable package is now $217.42 per month" according to US News https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/saving-and-budgeting/articles/how-much-is-cable-per-month
I don't care how much any individual is paying for cable, piecemeal streaming packages will obviously be the predominant form of entertainment in the next five years.
As for a cliffhanger, NBC probably wants a seamless transition so that viewers will get into the habit of daily streaming. The past two years are already on the service and I don't see them investing more in streaming old episodes when it has failed at Soapnet, Sony, PopTV, and RetroTV.
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I think your best option is Tumblr, there are classic Y&R threads as well as classic SOD news threads to explore @blueberrywaffle
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13 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:Dan Feuerriegel is the only one to respond that I have seen.
I'm confused by this comment because I first found out about it on Brandon Beemer's insta-story and Eric Martsolf also published a story. Both linked to Variety in their posts.
I guess it wasn't a response, just a post, but they both posted earlier today.
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4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:The problem is most of the older viewers who would use a streaming service are probably not who would be sitting through a soap, especially not one that is as poor as DAYS has been in recent years. I hope they make it work but this feels like a death sentence to me.
I agree from the perspective that there may not be a big marketing push, given that most entertainment talk shows will be on hiatus in August, to inform current viewers of the switch.
I always use the example that Y&R switched time slots in LA over a decade ago, and I no longer know what time it airs. It is hard to break old habits.
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24 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:Depends on what time Peacock posts the episodes. The smart thing to do would be to post them at like 12 or 1 in the afternoon
One assumes they'll post early every morning like Beyond Salem, although the UK soaps recently experimented with posting the whole week of episodes every Monday
23 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:Call me when that guy gets either a digital marketing degree or spell-check.
These are the same types of doomsday predictions that people said when VCRs came to market.
The truth is that we don't know how people will consume serialized drama as more people cut the cord. Passions and AMC/OLTL were a lifetime ago in the age of streaming and smart tv technology. And, optimistically, given that streaming sponsorship relies on micro data of the audience, writers and creatives won't be beholden to keep trying to entice 18-35 year old viewers, if an older more dedicated audience continues to watch the show.
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2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:
If I'm home, I'll watch it live, but most days I catch it on my DVR.
4 minutes ago, Errol said:I mostly watch the shows online through streaming websites or apps on TV/phone.
So, it seems like although the news is shocking, the experience of how we consume the show wouldn't change that much, and it makes it easier to "second screen", so that people can post and chat as they watch.
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I'd be interested to know from those on this board how many watch it live with commercials versus watching it on cable streaming or DVR?
There seems to be a dedicated few that watch it live daily and then post here.
However, I've not watched a soap live since the Reagan administration (since we're also admitting our age).
So, except for the fee, it seems like the same viewing experience to me whether it is streamed on nbc.com or Peacock. And I'd rather pay $5-$15 for a couple of streaming services then $95 for a whole cable package with a with a bunch of sports that I don't watch.
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3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:CBS will be the last standing with soaps. Soon ABC will cancel GH and move it to Hulu to just fizzle out.
Not to pour salt in the wounds, but it doesn't inspire confidence when one of the largest CBS affiliates wants to expand news rather than daytime programming
CBS to Expand AM News at LA Stations; KCAL to Air Local Morning News for First Time Ever
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In Los Angeles the NBC affiliate already announced that they're replacing Ellen with local news, From 5am to 2pm (Kelly Clarkson) and then 3-7 it will be 13 hours of news. As a long time Angelno I can tell you not enough happens to support thirteen hours of news, unless they follow a car chase for an hour or two..
Is this the news that @Errol teased a few months ago? Or is it just a coincidence?
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At first, I thought it was a fool's errand to try to generalize a national sentiment based on a Kansas primary where 1/3 of the population registered to vote
But, according to the Kansas Secretary of State, twice as many GOP members registered to vote, so the victory is meaningful in terms of the Dems ability to get out the vote based on civil rights issues
Kansas Voter Registration Totals Republican Democratic Libertarian Unaffiliated Total 852,000 495,760 21,453 546,161 1,915,374 -
For me, what's missing is the Slesar way of inter cutting stories. A story ends, characters flounder, and then something else happens to them. I yearn for stories that have consequences, but when even death is not forever in Salem, there's no sense of people who have grown and changed based on experience.
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I would have argued it is a balcony not a parapet, but wiki proved me wrong
However, it defies physics that a tiny woman would fall over like humpty dumpty. Also, only in fiction does a person run away from their enemy onto a space without an exit. But, I guess I'll also just disregard the logical reason why she didn't just open the envelope and read the contents rather that taunting her with it.
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I think this is such an interesting point because affiliate scheduling is also what doomed Generations.
Now, I've only read the summaries of FRFP, which admittedly were neither entertaining nor innovative. However, SOD blamed casting and writing choices for the demise of FRFP, but as is often the case, creative forces are only one element in a show's cancellation.
If we've learned anything from the current state of NBC daytime, than we know that if soaps were cancelled merely because they were poorly cast or written DAYS would have been gone a thousand times by now...
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32 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:Why was FRFP starting on a Tues and Wed?
I looked it up on AWHP and
NOVEMBER 18, 1977 (EP. #3387)
First appearance of Rod Arrants and Christine Jones as Austin and Amy CushingDECEMBER 5, 1977 (EP. #3397)
Last appearance of Rod Arrants and Christine Jones as Austin and Amy Cushing.So, they must have shown them in Bay City on Monday, hyped up the return, and then on Tuesday, Rachel went to Port Claire with them in the AW timeslot, and FRRP moved to its normal timeslot on Wednesday.
4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:Scratching my head on that one...is it a CBS actress as ABC and NBc are both represented?
from the Amazon description it is one of these women
Susan Lucci, All My Children
• Deidre Hall, Days of Our Lives
• Kelly Monaco, General Hospital
• Victoria Wyndham, Another World
• Eileen Fulton, As the World Turns
• Jeanne Cooper, The Young and the Restless
• Erika Slezak, One Life to Live
• Susan Flannery, The Bold and the BeautifulSo, I guess it is Kelly Monaco?
Also, can you imagine a kid's face if you gave them a Susan Flannery paper doll to play with?
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Whoever did the NBC soap illustrations had difficulties with perspective. From the physics-defying way that the power is pouring out of that vase, to way that Cecile refection would not be seen from that angle is an odd choice.

Also, there's something about the optimistic excitement of a new soap that captivates me
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TikTok continues to be my go-to source for soap memories.
For example, today I recalled that blue version of the Chandler Mansion, with those odd stairs that had such a low slope they were almost like a ramp
Also, imagine the disappointment of tuning in to see a replacement Nina, Liza, and Jenny (yes, I know she wasn't really playing Jenny), all in one day. I find it amusing that they keep shooting Nina from behind, perhaps hoping that viewers won't notice the difference.
Finally, gotta love the classics in the scene at Courtland Manor. A villain admitting to their plan out loud with someone obviously eavesdropping in the background. If you couldn't catch the foreshadowing of Zach's murder, then you've never watched a soap before
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I am very pleased about the Alex Jones verdict and the incompetency of his 11th legal counsel is just icing on the cake.
If Alex Jones's attorney thinks he's getting paid for four months worth of billing, than he is definitely dumb enough to send two years worth of missing documents to his opponent.
However, I still can't believe that 24% of Americans continue to believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax and still buy $100,000-$300,00 a day in merch sales that makes Alex Jones rich.