ThePrinceOfSunspear

The guy who plays Jaime's thoughts on the scene don't help matters at all smdh.....

God I hope someone got a gif of Ramona saying HOLLA like Heather! Oh Lord though....Ramona is a on warpath and Aviva is so fake.nice. DAMN check out Mario throwing that shade at Ramona re the cheating....SMDH. She shoulda slapped the mess out of him for that one.

In general I agree with you Eric83 but we have no idea what is being said to Ramona of what has transpired before. Either way I do agree that its probably Ramona being impulsive and perhaps she's a little tipsy so its not the best look. Hopefully she apologizes and means it.

Ramona was friends with BOTH Jill and Bethenny and was absolutely justified in trying to mend the fences just as she is now. She's a friend to both Aviva and Carole/Heather (more Heather and I mean she's on good terms with them AT LEAST) So Ramona is definitely alright for trying to fix things and Kristin has no legs to stand on. She can return back to being the basic "I'm Pretty" weak lady that she is and getting in fake drama fights with her hubby. Thats clearly all she's here for. Christ I'd rather have shrill Cindy back or God forbid Jill....and I'll wait till we actually see the episode to say whether Ramona is wrong for throwing the drink at Kristins face.

DEAD at that gif of Nene exactly what was I hearing and thinking Looks like my girl Ramona is putting irrelevant b*tches in their place. Can't wait till I see this ish.

LMAO at Vee. I always thought Jon Snow would end up being gay in the books but I don't think that's gonna happen

Very true as a selfish viewer I would rather have Kenya on for 4 more seasons than Porsha who will be boring and say stupid stuff for 2 more.... The stuff Porsha said about her being a 90s whore and her vagina only came after Kenya pointed that damn scepter in her face and started really going in on Porsha. So I think she was totally justified. I think its funny how Kenya thinks its okay to go after things that are sensitive to the other castmates but yet when they go in on her personal issues (such as her difficulties with childbirth or Velvet) she wants to play the "victim card" and act all hurt or turnt up. Well clearly Apollo is a weak spot/sensitive subject for Phaedra. Just like the whole Kordell marriage fiasco is a sensitive subject for Porsha. And even for Kandi who I think puts on a good front the weight issue is probably a sensitive spot for her. So I think Kenya needs to look in the mirror and decide if she wants to dish it out because she def can't take it when it comes from someone who's onto her bullsh*t like Nene clearly is.

This isn't about Phaedra for one thing..... And what mess was Porsha saying? She simply said the truth. No one has seen this character. NO ONE. There hasn't been a single sighting. She then claimed that someone told her that Kenya had approached some African singer with money to appear with her a few times. Which I think someone posted a link in this thread a while back about. I never said "bullied". I think that word is thrown around way too much and has lost its initial meaning. However I do think Kenya has targeted Porsha cuz she thinks Porsha is the weakest and won't fight back. Well she was clearly mistaken and honestly I was quite surprised at how turnt up Porsha was. I never expected that level of heat from ole girl. Now please believe I still think Porsha is dumb and is very weak when it comes to make smart decisions regarding men and life in general. But in this one instance I totally agree with her. Kenya was asking for that a$$whooping and she GOT IT. The most important part to me though is that I went into this reunion fully expecting to support Kenya in some way or form and very sad cuz I thought Nene was going to come across very ugly but by the end of it Kenya ended up looking petty, cheap, and the victim as usual.

Who is SI Marlow again? It says "double deaths" which has me curious. And I'm so glad he's gone. He was a creepy character and just made the show so depressing. Its like nothing ever touched him and he seemed to have everyone bought or trapped and powerless and thats just no fun.

I've always liked/loved Miss Leakes but I also will call her out when she does something I don't approve of....I do think she was a bit stank with Andy from the get go because he called her Linnethia (which I thought he was just being cute with her). Overall though I thought Nene did a great job aside from her cold shoulder to Cynthia about the twerking and the whole weight issue with Kandi. And I'm sorry but Nene SLAYED Kenya....and that's just the Gods honest truth. This whole "African Prince" thing is starting to sound very suspect to me and frankly I don't think its true at this point. Nene had me on the floor dying of laughter when she was telling the story. And I completely believe her. She decimated Kenya and made her look and sound so stupid. You CANNOT say that someone met your man when your "guy" (someone you probably PAID) just bumped into the woman outside the hotel and she could barely understand him nor did he introduce himself. What a joke. Even the part when Andy was talking about Velvet sounded so FAKE and so rehearsed to me. The only genuine part was when Phaedra effed up and threw shade at Kenya bout the dog being her only friend....which quietly I think we all know is true. THATS when Kenya went REAL hood and got angry. I think she was upset but just doing more acting. That I will give the girl she's a grade A actress for the work she's doing on RHOA. But I think this first part of the reunion and her behavior with Porsha has made me realize just how conniving and manipulative Kenya Moore really is. Not saying Nene is perfect AT ALL. But at least she's real like her or don't like her Never thought I'd see the day where I'd be rooting for Porsha! But the girl stood her ground and she made some VALID points about Kenya. And that microphone would have set ME off if I was on that couch with that fake lady talking about my marriage like that. How does it seem pretty true? Some random guy comes up to you on the streets spouting some nonsense with a heavy accent that you don't understand and you walk away? Sounds pretty reasonable to me. The whole point of that exchange was to show how OTT Kenya really is. She exaggerates sh*t to the TENTH degree. Its beyond ridiculous at this point. The way she was insisting that Nene had met this guy you'd think that they were in a restaurant and had run into one another. Or they were at some social event where people could verify this. Instead it ended up being some random ambush on the streets of LA outside "the hotel that Nene likes" (loved the little wink she gave Andy before she launched into the story...LOL). And speaking of Andy Cohen....that man is too cute and so funny. Its SO clear he loves Atlanta the most out of all franchises. He was CRACKING up the entire time and I loved every moment of it. EDIT: Re Porsha Porsha gets my support because Kenya was so rude to her and came across so fake in multiple things. Most importantly though is that Porsha made some very reasonable points about Kenyas Casper the Friendly Ghost Man. And the truth is that Kenya has been attacking Porsha for a WHILE now. Like going on two years. At some point enough is enough.... I think Porsha conducted herself foolishly and looked weak with all the crying but she was justified in dragging that heffa to the floor and I do wonder if more happened that wasn't shown.

"SO NASTY AND SO RUDE" GOD I LIVE AND BREATH FOR NENE LEAKES

Even the article that was just linked shows that her last words were not at all her "accepting" or "wanting" Jaime like she does in the books. I'm sorry but there's a big difference between a couple enjoying a little rough sex and whips and chains, whatever and a couple that has been raping each other for years on end (or at least the guy has according to those who want to give the writers a free pass on this epic BS). The books and even the show to a small extent have only shown Cersei and Jaime to be quite passionate about each other when it comes to love making but NEVER have they implied that one took the other against their will just for sh*ts and giggles or funsies. Nor have I or anyone I know who loves/enjoys the books said that Jaime Lannister is the Boy Scout of America and the best shining example of humanity in Westeros. Hes def bad for what he did to Bran and plenty of other things he's done in the books.... But rape? Again that is crossing a line that should NEVER have been crossed

Where did Martin "weigh in" and I frankly don't believe a word of it. The backlash is the only reason he's even commenting and it must really be bad for him to say something. Frankly I'm losing a lot of respect for the man. For someone who's dedicated so much of his life to this work of literature and these priceless characters he seems so willingly and completely blase about letting ti all go into the sh*ttter. Its reprehensible. He's starting to remind me of George Lucas and Star Wars...just in it for the money and the true fans care more about the series and the characters than he does at this point. As for Cersei and Robert he did claim his "duties" as a husband and forcefully took her but since they were married thats how he justified it. I think its so crucial what DRW50 and others have said about Jaime and this world of Westeros. Rape is so common in that world that what made Jaime stand out in a lot of ways was the fact that he had never done such a thing. SO for the show to go there is just ridiculous

This article that DRW50 sent me just reminded me of the actual dialogue and why I'm so annoyed/angered by this change....

This is exactly why I hate the topic of rape and when its used in shows....I honestly didn't view the whole Sami/EJ thing as rape. What he did was wrong but it wasn't rape. And yet despite understanding the twisted nature of Jaime and Cersei's relationship I do believe that what Jaime did to Cersei was rape. I'll have to watch the scene again in order to fully process it but my gut reaction was this was wrong. I didn't get any sense that Cersei while saying "NO" was also fighting her desire to be with Jaime. I didn't get any sense of desire on Cersei's part. So that ruined it for me. Even in the books there is that hint which completely changes how I view it in the book. I do agree tho that the scene with Tommen and Lord Tywin was incredible. Both in terms of dialogue, the family dynamics, and the utter shattering of Cersei's psyche to witness her son being taken away from her....

In the books it's not portrayed that way at all but okay.... Incest factor aside Jaime and Cersei's relationship actually isn't that poisonous. Yes it has ups and downs but the books make clear that they've both done power plays on each other and used each other in various ways.... That scene was just disturbing and no where did I see consensual. Nor did I even see the "grey" area that some shows have provided (See Days Ejami). To me this was just pure rape and just wrong.

<spoiler>Yeah these writers are pardon my french completely ret&&&&ded. The way they did that scene even I thought it was rape. It was VERY disturbing and totally didn't hit the mark in terms of the books meaning. This is just ridiculous....<spoiler> And DRW50 do you mind PM'ing me about how to use the spoiler tags....

True I can buy complicated....I guess the word choice is what bothers me. Its like the writers are writing for the lowest common denominator. So they had to explicitly say "love" rather than acknowledge or try to deliver hte message somehow that its "complicated"

But even in the show I don't know if they've shown enough to even justify the "love" claim. She might have admiration for him and feel gratitude for him saving her life but there's been nothing to even suggest that... I just feel like its another gigantic leap on the part of the writers....no development at all.

That one vid about Cersei/Brienne is hilarious but again it was a totally made up scene which utterly destroyed an ongoing debate regarding the Brienne/Jaime relationship.... Its definitely not decided that Brienne is in love with Jaime at all. I def don't get that impression at all from reading the books but umm okay. Excited for tonight's episode if only to see the aftermath and how the show handles certain things....

Yeah just my wishful thinking for a dream season. While I do like Heather, Aviva, and Carole none of them really pops on screen like Jill or Alex ever did. And Alex is just simply radiant in her videos over at TheStir and I can tell this b*tch has learned from it all and would be utterly fearless if she returned. I think it would be incredible to watch how that all went down. To see all these ladies reunited after 2/3 seasons apart....

Def bring back Jill and if you bring her back might as well bring back Alex...and BETHANY. Drop Luann off the face of the planet, keep Aviva and Heather. Carole is a friend and so is Sonja

I see your point regarding the contract but I guess I was looking at it from a bigger perspective in that even though Teresa and Melissa are technically the ones liable for their behavior their husbands are part of the package and thus they might be held responsible everytime they pop off. And yeah Porsha's been living on borrowed time but every show has the one wife who's there for comedic relief (Kim from BH, Sonja from NY, etc etc). 3 more days!!!!

That would be quite the double standard if Andy fires Porsha but he lets trapped in the closet Joe Gorga and Juicy Joe Guidice from RHONJ basically have a street brawl on camera in the that previous season.....

Very good point Money...this isn't Mob Wives level of violence or God forbid L&H or Basketball Wives lol so I think Porsha theoretically should be OK. And honestly after that little incident I can only imagine how turnt up its gonna be between her and Miss Kenya