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17 minutes ago, mikelyons said:

RYAN'S HOPE: This bible is missing in action. As far as I know, Paul Avila Miller and Claire Labine's papers have not yet been entered into an archive.

 

I seem to remember, maybe back in the days of WOST or even SoapNet's "Ryan's Hope" board, somebody had access to the contents of the "Ryan's Hope" bible...And I recall this because of the trivia, that Siobhan Ryan was originally supposed to be a nun!

1 minute ago, Chris B said:

 

I was happy to read that Victoria Rowell’s show is moving to BET+! That’s a much bigger platform and the biggest issue was a lack of budget when it was on UMC. Hopefully this leads to bigger things for her. It’s also nice to have her back at Viacom considering she spent about a decade being blacklisted. It’s so nice to see all her hard work fighting for representation finally paying off for her. 

It's interesting Peter Bergman tried to discredit her by calling her crazy in respects to her claims, when he just admitted on the Locher Room last Thursday that he once tried to give Agnes Nixon story direction on where he believed his character, Dr. Cliff Warner, should be going! (Needless to say management interceded and he kept his job, but still!)

On 11/8/2020 at 3:37 PM, Taoboi said:

I definitely know the frustration and embarrassment when everyone around you knows your worth BUT your higher management and they do nothing. While I left that job a year ago next week, I do admit I took great pleasure showing how much weight and power I held back for years on my way out the door. Superiority has its advantage.

God, I dream of this day in my current job...I am so glad that you took a leap of faith and landed on your feet.

  One more thing...I was really touched that people mentioned Claire Labine, as a collaborator in writing story for people of color on "General Hospital". I remember people watching the show during this time and enjoying it immensely because of the diversity and issues she brought to the forefront.

  In a way "GH" inspired the networks to make her "Ryan's Hope" to be more outrageous than planned, so it was only poetic justice her "RH" reel the Hospital back in from the days of Lassa Fever and Ice Princesses. 

13 hours ago, mikelyons said:

Generally, nothing is scanned in by the archive. When you make a request for copies of documents (if the archive does it), they will charge you a nominal rate to scan each page and email it to you. In effect, researchers pay for the digitization of their archives. It's a bit archaic, but it makes plenty of financial sense. Why pay for it out of pocket when a researcher will pay us to do it? 

Additionally, the ALL MY CHILDREN bible is at Northwestern University and the Bell Collection at UCLA. In that iteration of the AMC bible, Erica Kane is never mentioned. Not once. Not even a character called "Susan". There may be additional drafts of the AMC bible with Erica in it, but it hasn't surfaced yet. The earliest mention of Erica from Agnes' Northwestern archive is by Tara in Episode 1. According to an outline by Agnes' Northwestern archive from Episode 10, we finally meet Erica. She has just received her car from her father and drives Tara and Phil home. This could very well be the infamous "Hollywood & Vine" episode, which we may have only seen edited for A DAYTIME TO REMEMBER, not in its unedited state.

Thank you for this information Mike. I also really enjoyed your posts on the "Race and Racism" in the Soaps" Thread. 

  I spent a majority of my day reading all but 15 pages of this post, which I will finish tomorrow...

 In reading all of the things people contributed and commented on so far, I have to say, if only the writer's room of our existing dramas were this diverse and constructive.

  Granted there were moments of tense exchange, but nobody said the conversations about race would be comfortable, in fact, I hear that to achieve progress they're going to be uncomfortable.

  This is where I imagine, as part of her research, Agnes Nixon drew the voices for her characters, and though audiences related to one character or another, we understood or became aware of many points of view...

  One of the posts that stuck out to me, and I apologize, I think it was @victoria foxton, (I've read so many pages) who may have posted to the effect that "All My Children's" drama and differences in characters was inspired by the Vietnam War that rocked our country, and how the show created 3 years of stories from that event alone...

  So, why can't our shows tell those stories in a way they once did? I mean, long ago are the days "As the World Turns" had to forbid any character to speak of President Kennedy's assassination, when it was said assassination that interrupted CBS' "previously scheduled  programming"...

  (Forbidden, until Rosemary Prinz, as she revealed to Alan Locher last Friday on his show, accidentally went up on her lines as Penny Hughes and alluded to the strife in our country...)

  How atavistic is the genre, that in spite of the "Classic Episodes":

  Couldn't Genoa City have had a protest (peaceful or otherwise) at Chancellor Park in response to George Floyd, and the characters responses to it?

  Couldn't General Hospital's Dr. Monica Quartermaine have had the capability to instruct America on COVID procedures as our nation, as well as our world, went through it's own personal drama?

  Did Bold and the Beautiful need a boost from scandalous Carol Baskin to pimp their show, making me think twice about the "couture" (or the quality) of its production...

  And not to be insensitive, but couldn't Salem Place dramatize a mass shooting that might create viewership to tune in to see the reality that continues to divide our country, and respect the rule that in this type of event - nobody returns from the dead. 

  And I already figure (per previous posts, I think one that involved a Twitter thread), executives are too afraid to tell those stories...

  It seems the networks have failed us? Then what can we do?

Respectfully,

Erik

36 minutes ago, EricMontreal22 said:

Send me a PM

Sent one, thanks again...

1 minute ago, EricMontreal22 said:

Was that me?  I told someone that they could read the AMC bible at the NorthWestern archives.  I was able to go there as research for my MA essay and actually have scanned a lot of stuff I can share.  However, I have to warn you, there is remarkably little about OLTL compared to AMC and even Loving and her pre OLTL soap work. 

But no--nothing is scanned in.  I had to scan what I did myself, and that was a bit of an iffy thing in and of itself (I went twice, one time the person was fine with me scanning all I wanted, the other time I was being watched VERY closely)

I just checked the video/chat and yes, it was you Eric...

Thank you for answering, and sorry, I didn't catch that it was your name associated the first time I read the post...

If you would be willing to share, I'd be very grateful...I was interested in Agnes' bible for "All My Children" and her early story projections. I was also interested in, if you have "a" full script sample, either for radio or "All My Children".

Thank you again, for any assistance you give...

Erik

  With releases of a few mid-late 70's episodes of "One Life to Live" on YouTube...

  I am intrigued by the character of Cathy Craig Lord (Dorrie Cavanaugh, Jennifer Harmon)...

It almost seemed to me the character had so much more longevity - the daughter of the show's patriarch Nat Polen as Dr. Jim Craig, and with familial/romantic ties to the Woleks and the Lords. She was also a reporter for the Banner...

  I always wondered if her character was written out (possibly if Harmon wanted to leave and the demand of recasting) and replaced her character with that of Edwina Lewis, played by Margaret Klenck...

  I could see in lieu of Cathy being dumped by Tony, becoming embittered and taking it out on Viki and Karen (like Edwina tended to do), as well as becoming a cohort to Dorian.

  Speaking of Dorian...the first two Dorians are present in these releases: Nancy Pinkerton and Clair Malis. Very interesting takes on a character Robin Strasser left her mark the most on. Anyone a fan of either actresses' previous work?

  Don't know if there are any "One Life" legacy fans, but would be curious to hear your take. 

40 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

When they kept tossing Brooke back into the Ridge's orbit after we finally thought the cycle was broken with Nick coming on the scene. That whole era was weird too with Sheila coming back and supposedly having a past with Massimo, etc. Also, I feel like this was point where the show only had an A or B story and everyone else that wasn't in either of those stories was just there was window dressing/quota. 

 

Sad part is that this show will have glimmers of the show going into an upswing, but Brad's dumb*** will nuke that quickly when he comes up with Brooke or now Steffy's latest tryst. 

Was this 2003, 2004?

Hello you bold and beautiful people,

  I was curious, I been watching scenes from the early to mid 90s - with Stephanie vs. Sally over Jack, Stephanie vs. Sheila over Eric, Stephanie homeless, Brooke's seduction of the Forrester men, Brook overtaking the Forrester business - it's all so well written and the acting is incredible...

  When did the creative well run dry for you? Like what jumped the shark in the show and you were done? Was it when Ridge turned out to be Massimo's son? When Pam covered Donna in honey and tried to feed her to a bear? When Stephanie died? When the cast started kissing mannequins?

What year do you think was the last good year of this show before it started to decline?

Thank you,

Erik

2 hours ago, j swift said:

I just read an excerpt of Helmet Burger's memoir in one of the British tabloids (he played De Vilibis).  He noted being miserable playing the role that he felt was too melodramatic.  He was having addiction issues that plagued him until his death and Joan Collins later wrote in one of her memoirs that she did not like working with him.  So, I wonder if that put the kibosh on the whole storyline including Ms. Scannell's part? 

 

Structurally, Nicole felt more like a temporary barrier to ease the transition for Jeff from Fallon to Kirby.

Thanks for the response...confused, wasn't Kirby long gone, and Fallon "dead", so Nikki was more of an "in between", along with Lady Ashley, from Fallon back to Fallon... Though I appreciate Joan Collins and the work she did on DYNASTY, I don't know why she would comment on working with Berger...she barely had any scenes with him except for group scenes, none of which even showed them together. The only ones who seemed to share time with Berger the most was Fallon, Jeff, Blake, Krystal and Claudia. Only actors experiences there was Pamela Sue Martin (Fallon) was shocked when Berger thought they did their bed scenes naked, and Pamela Bellwood (Claudia) was esteemed by Berger as one of the nicer cast members. 

Question, watching season 5, and intrigued with the Nikki Simpson character. Was she originally slated to be Peter DeVilbis' wife, or were producers hoping Susan Scannell would catch on so she could be a Fallon replacement as it looked like Pamela Sue Martin was not returning. Has Susan Scannell ever spoken about her time on DYNASTY? I'd be curious as to her experience? Thank you! Erik

On 11/19/2020 at 12:08 PM, OzFrog said:

 

I’m so down for this reboot! 

Aw, thank you OZ, dc11786 has been helping me, when I don't go AWOL, I hope we can collaborate and maybe create something - the objective would be to send a script or two to Chris Marcantel, maybe to be read by some cast members/fans? You never know...

I was informed by some that the document was not loading, let me post here for all to see, remember, this is bare, bare bones...

Thank you one and all, thank you dc11786 for the in depth info...

The reason I was asking was because I was so inspired by the videos/chats Chris Marcantel (original Curtis) created, that I wanted to create a LOVING reboot. Let me share some of the very, very barebones idea I have for a premiere cast...Anyways, was just wondering what you all thought: 

LOVING.docx

LOVING Children questions...

1) Lorna Forbes ultimately married her lawyer Zach Conway...did they have a child offscreen? 

2) Did Steffi Brewster have a baby with Cooper Alden? I know Cooper had one with Ally Rescott named Tyler but I thought Steffi was showing signs of pregnancy once her character moved over to "The City".

3) Ann is not Jack Forbes' biological mother, just his adoptive mother?

4) Was Rick the bio-dad of Heather, or did it turn out to be Jack in the end?

Thanks!

Erik

33 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

"I was not as familiar with OLTL, only really becoming acquainted with the soap until the near end of its broadcast run but I love masquerade ball themed episodes on soaps. Those during the 1980s are my favorites, as they seemed especially lavish."

 

Then if this storyline (and it lasted a month!) ever resurfaces, you are in for a treat...number one, the cast was top notch at the time of the story - and though it didn't have the location shooting AMC's did a year before in 1980, it had enough to keep you engaged, even outside the ball there were storylines. I honestly feel this was a moment in ONE LIFE's history, that I think everyone liked...So thank you

Hello

  With clips and episodes being released here and there...does anyone know of any access to any episodes of ONE LIFE TO LIVE's masquerade ball circa 1981? Asa through the party in honor of his second wife, Samantha, but his first wife Olympia crashed the gala. 

Thank you for any advisement,

Erik

  I loved watching the first two episodes (and partially a third episode) of LOVING posted, as have most of you...

  I came into watching LOVING in late '85, early '86 after Marland had left, and most of the original cast had gone to make way for creative development that essentially would make LOVING a "lite" version of sister soap ALL MY CHILDREN.

  In the early 90's, there was an annual publication called "The History of the Soaps". I mainly purchased it because I was a big fan of ONE LIFE and ALL MY CHILDREN, and I wanted to know their respective histories. However, I was always curious as to how other shows began their epics too. LOVING was one of, if not the most intriguing to me with initial stories in comparison to ones I initially tuned into to pale by comparison. If you're a fan of LOVING you have followed the "Ladies of Loving", "Gentleman" and "Fans" specials put out by Chris Marcantel (original and only Curtis Alden)? Even he has opinionated himself that the show never should have veered away from it's original intent - to be a socially conscious "modern day soap".

  You all have made wonderful observations - "Rita Mae" being "Opal-esque", the family dynamic of the Donovans; the connection between Doug and Ann (I loved Shannon Eubanks "Ann", she reminded me of Erika Slezak's "Viki"). That they had yet to cast Patrick Donovan - and even when the Donovan patriarch was cast, it's not like he had anything memorable to do - better to have made Rose Donovan a widow and give seasoned veteran Teri Keane more story. Of all the incest, progressive priests, liberal media, AIDS, and Vietname Veteran PTSD tackled...I am surprised the show didn't premiere with an even more diverse cast - maybe the Slaters could have been African-American? Did anyone ever here the rumor Shana Sloane was intended to be black? 

  Also, I wonder what longevity LOVING would have had if it hadn't been a network show but a cable show? So many "what ifs", it's fun to speculate...

On 8/17/2020 at 7:29 AM, Paul Raven said:

That story was bust from beginning to end.

But it still didn't deserve to be totally forgotten when so many other past stories have been revisited or retconned.

A recast Keemo or his children belong on the canvas to give new life to the Abbotts and add much needed diversity.

If I recall during Sally Sussman and Kay Alden's last tenure the character of Juliette was alleged to be linked to Keemo in someway - and that the baby she fathered by Cane would have had it's paternity called into question when Keemo returned to Genoa City and the two were revealed to be lovers. But I think it was scrapped because the character of Juliette, though I enjoyed her, did not catch on.  

1 hour ago, beebs said:

Definitely check out Days of the Week. It's all on YouTube. I'll be honest, whoever wrote that sketch had NBC daytime on all the time, cos there was a lot of little things that stuck out to me as familiar. 

 

Thank you! It's probably just my own impossible standards that make me self-critical, but it's reassuring to hear others enjoy my ideas. 

 

We have a world of talent in this forum, and it frustrates me so much that none of that talent is ever seen onscreen on any of the big shows. We struggle through our own little projects here and there, thankfully. But it really annoys me how insular the TV soap world is. Its basically eating itself. 

 

The ones that seem to get ahead are definitely NOT the ones whose ideas I enjoy seeing actualized. 

Okay, so I wasn't crazy for thinking Catherine O'Hara's "Violet McKay" reminded me of Another's World's Beveree McKinsey's "Iris"? 

Check it out...

20 minutes ago, Dylan said:

NP

Here are the other three trailers...we had to stop short of episode 5 because of Covid-19...

Episode 2...

Episode 3...

And Episode 4...

41 minutes ago, Dylan said:

I would

Hi Dylan

  I am so honored, thank you...we even have a character with the same name as yours...

  I have included an attachment of the first trailer we ever did...

  And also, I have the podcast and it's free:

  http://bartelltheatre.org/2020/lust-for-life/

  The episodes run an hour and twenty minutes, BUT each ACT/Part, was written and separated by commercials so to run the length of a daily installment as I had observed when I listened to the radio version of "Guiding Light" and a more esoteric radio soap "Hearts in Harmony". 

Thank you again!

Erik