Lust4Life76

In addition, Jenny and Peter as "The Vamp" and King Arthur...

Katherine Chancellor outranks Jack Abbott any day, even Jack Abbott would admit that. 

On 10/18/2021 at 4:47 PM, SFK said:

Did Ina’s boarding house predate Myrtle’s in Pine Valley?

Ooh good question... possibly? Because if it housed Melinda and Becky Lee initially before Karen, Kat, Ed, etc., that was mid to start of the late 70's. 

It seems Cassie did live there, at the same time Herb did? And Gary Corelli lived there too (given an episode posted on YouTube in 1982)... 

Good Evening,

Does anyone know of anywhere on this site I can find scans for the "One Life to Live" 20th Anniversary article in Soap Opera Digest?

Thank you,
Erik

@robbwolff In "Delirious", John Candy, a soap scribe, gets knocked out in a freak accident, and wakes up in the soap opera town he writes about on a soap called "Beyond our Wildest Dreams". Someday, when I die and go to Heaven, I want to live in Llanview from late the late 70's to the late 80's, lol. 

Thank you Robb! 

I love these stories! They help me understand the origins of Agnes Nixon's creativity. I did listen to the audio book Judith Ivy created for insight. It's nice to Llanfair exists somewhere - meaning "Beautiful fair" I suspect. 

Robb, have you ever seen the movie "Delirious"? With the late John Candy, Emma Samms and Mariel Hemingway?

Some of you have posted some really thoughtful and genuinely kind respects in lieu of Susan Lucci's loss... that stem from your very personal appreciation of her work. But some of the rest of you...

Personally, I don't think the private lives of this (any) family, in the event of their grief, should be left up for speculation by strangers on this board. And if you think to identify your "concern" under the auspice of being a "fan"? Please note this is not fandom. This is not even of a caring nature. This is being a gossip and bordering on schadenfreude.  

If the same thing was happening to you, in your life, I would hope someone would show you some grace. 

And to a prior poster about the decorating tastes of Ms. Lucci in her own home - maybe you should share a video of your place, so we can understand what true decorating style is? Maybe it overcompensates for your inability to display tact. 

Was it a specific suburb of Philidelphia? Yet, I have a feeling, Agnes Nixon's town was more based on Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania - yet a lot of that town people say is more Pine Valley (Agnes' other locale) than Llanview...

I know once Paul Rauch took over as executive producer, Llanview became based on the layout and style of Pennsylvania capital Harrisburg... I have been to that town, it was surreal to see all the actual locations and the bridges that I saw so many times in the opening credits to my favorite of soap operas... 

So where is Llanview?! Lol

This is sad. I never watched "As the World Turns". But just on her star power, anyone who was a fan of soap opera knew who Kathryn Hays was. My thoughts are with the ones that she loved, and loved her. 

5 minutes ago, j swift said:

Unless everyone in Llanview came down with a sudden case of glaucoma, it takes a huge suspension of disbelief to accept that anyone would mistake Sam for Olympia simply because they wore the same outfit.

It is like when nobody in Metropolis recognizes Clark Kent without his glasses.

Yes, you do have to extend your credulity in that respect - but I wonder if in the story they addressed that slightly with people making quips like "Oh I didn't realize Samantha was as short as she is" or something to that effect. That and she has this custom made costume on so nobody would think anyone would have access to it. I believe it was noted Olympia, once she locked Samantha in the freezer, slipped into the party, she cleverly deflected people who tried to interact with her. Maybe the who jewelry heist subplot interrupted their observations. 

18 minutes ago, Khan said:

That's not the picture that @SFK was referring to.

Thank you.

Like I said, we will have to see who it is when the episode resurfaces someday. 

11 hours ago, j swift said:

There's two sets of photos which may be the source of confusion in the answers.  In the b&w that is definitely Ken Meeker as Rafe, but, in the color photos of the ball itself, it looks like Clint in the bottom photo to me.

Although if the whole town on Llanview couldn't tell a 20-something Samantha from a 50-something Olympia due to just a wig and a mask, who am I to tell who is under that disguise?

Clint went as Count Dracula, I think the cowboy is Johnny Drummond. The Times at one point ran an article citing some of the popular characters as to what they were going as. I have seen several going as the exact costumes the article cited - however, Tina was supposed to go as Spiderwoman - from what I see she looks more like Catwoman. And Johnny Drummond was supposed to go as Daniel Boone - but I think he may have been switched out as the cowboy we all see. We will have to see who it is when the episode resurfaces someday. 

20 minutes ago, Khan said:

No, it's Ken Meeker (ex-Rafe).

Ken Meeker dressed as Romeo Montague, not a cowboy. I don't think it's Chip Lucia - he was dressed as a gambler from the Old west - think Kenny Rogers. I suspect it's Johnny Drummon (Wayne Massey), or an extra.

18 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

@Lust4Life76

Thank you - I really liked Taina Elg as "Olympia". She was, and still is, tres elegant. 

1 hour ago, j swift said:

Remind me of the timeline.

Was the Masquerade Party when Olympia was revealed?  Or was this their engagement and Olympia was revealed at the wedding?  I was confused because in a scene released a few weeks ago I first saw that Asa and Samantha's wedding reception happened at LLanfair, with Dorian hosting, so I wondered how Olympia got over there?

Because I recall the wedding going on for weeks, and I recall that's when Bo found out that he wasn't Asa's son.

Asa proposed to Samantha, and they had a June wedding circa 1981. All the while, Olympia was being kept prisoner in a mansion (I think in South Hampton) and was watched by Asa's nephew Rafe and Asa's right hand man Chuck. Somehow Olympia broke free and with a gun, she tried to enter the church Asa and Samantha were being married at, and shoot Asa at the alter. But Chuck and Rafe were on it and stopped Olympia and smuggled her out of the church back to South Hampton. I think in September/October Olympia burned down the South Hampton mansion she was being kept as part of her escape (after several other escape attempts went awry). Olympia hid out at Llanfair in the abandoned west wing. There, Olympia made friends with a black cat on the property; she also stole Dorian's handgun for protection. At Llanfair, Olympia was aware of certain goings on via spying on Dorian. So when Dorian received an invite to Asa and Sam's costume ball, Olympia planned to sabotage it. Olympia, managed to get a copy of Samantha's dress by calling the designer and telling them she was Samantha's maid and she had burned the original dress "ironing". By December, Olympia was ready with her revenge against the newlyweds Asa and Samantha, and planned to kill them both at the masquerade party - I think the party was thrown as more of a housewarming for the couple's new "Moorcliff" mansion (a neighboring estate of Llanfair). Olympia, at the ball, was revealed to Llanview society during the unmasking. Prior to the unmasking she had locked Samantha in a walk-in cooler, so she could take advantage of Samantha's "absence". After her reveal, Olympia told either Bo or Pat directly that Bo was not a Buchanan, but a son of ranch hand Yancy Ralston.  The only thing that played out during the party that I don't know how it effected the plans was the jewelry heist arranged by the four hired maids at the party (the maids who worked at the Sunrise Motel Cassie was staying at when she first came to town).

A lovely person named KCGuy on Twitter shared a few more images - this is totally taking me back...

1 minute ago, YRfan23 said:

That would be amazing!! She really needs to find a way, maybe get her own YT channel to post the episodes! that's basically 1977-1983 I believe? 

It is!

5 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Oh my God! Thank you! I love this - she must have gone as Catwoman then!

16 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I know it's unfortunate that so many 60's/70's episodes of OLTL, don't exist anymore (or so we are told), but I've always been a little surprise we don't have at least more late 70's/80's episodes. I mean If GH can have almost entire playlists of 1980-1983 for example, you would think OLTL and AMC would too, but like Y&R even those are just scattered dates.

I did hear on a recent podcast that Judith Light's mother videotaped her entire time on "One Life to Live", and Judith said something to the effect of "We have to do something with those tapes"... I was like, PLEASE convert them and put them on YouTube! That whole time she was on Llanview was a real community, and everyone had a great story.

Good evening,

  I know nobody has access to video of this extravagant event, but does anyone have any photos? I obsessed as to who was there, and what they came as.

Asa - Robert E. Lee

Lucinda - Lillian Russell

Bo - French Dandy

Ivan - The Executioner 

Samantha & Olympia - Titania

Wanda - Harpo Marx

Jenny - Theda Bera "The Vamp"

Brad - Rudolph Valentino "The Sheikh" 

Anna - The Can Can Girl

Clint - Count Dracula

Tony - The Gambler

Pat - Marie Antoinette

Dorian - Josephine

Herb - Napoleon

Sadie - The Statue of Liberty

Cassie - Dorothy Gale of "The WIzard of Oz"

Rafe - Romeo

Mimi - Jean Harlow 

Johnny - Daniel Boone

Tina - Spiderwoman

Others I suspect were there but not sure what their costumes were: Viki, Larry, Ina, Edwina, Chuck, Will, Katrina and Marcello.

On 3/30/2022 at 10:47 PM, DemetriKane said:

Maybe. Do you still have your podcast? I would gladly take a listen.

I do... thank you:

Lust for Life (podomatic.com)

8 hours ago, Khan said:

Why do you insist on that (our going off as fans and creating our own shows) as being the solution to all the troubles that plague these shows?  Sure, we could go create our own stuff if we had to, or wanted to, but why should we?  Why can't we just hold to the proverbial fire the feet of those who are being paid to write and produce the shows still on the air?  Is it really so bad just to ask those jackholes to do better, to try harder, to not bore the audience or insult their intelligence or tastes on a regular basis?

My view, how long has the writing been like this on a soap (or all the soaps) to the point you're dissatisfied? I will agree from other comments I have seen that the writing could be of a higher caliber - as preceded by Irna Phillips, Agnes Nixon and Bill Bell, but also Douglas Marland, Michael Malone, etc.,...  But we've been waiting for a decade and a half. I agree with people - as having watched Ron's version of "One Life to Live" (some of which I liked) yet his ability to name drop, rewrite histories (that had already been maintained by celebrated regimes) that ultimately led to no payoff. I guess that's why I champion taking to writing your own show where you control your continuity, your tone, your characters and honor your histories. SO many of you are speaking from a good place and it's out of respect for what the genre excelled at - tight, engaging stories that you could recapture an audience. Long gone are the days the networks really had any say... Now we can all take agency, and you never know the success and/or connections you may contribute to the genre.  If Jamey Giddens can get a gig, why can't more people?

I know you previous shared that you think I was challenging you for having an opinion. But I do respect what you are saying. 

8 hours ago, j swift said:

That's a good point, because @Lust4Life76 comment is kind of like saying if you disagree with the government why don't you just start your own country.

There are absolutely no consequences to fans discussing their opinions on a board.  Nobody is suggesting actually harassing writers on social media.  This is just a forum amongst viewers and if production chooses to follow along that is another bad decision on their part. 

You're a clown.

9 hours ago, Vee said:

Exactly. I have plenty of issues with the writing on DAYS, but when folks do threads like these they make sure these people are going to be laughing to the bank. The only reason this thread exists is because people know who Jamey is and because Jamey credited himself with the very stupid Renee twist. But it's only because of our shared familiarity with him as a fan and a blogger that he is singled out for an OP that people have suddenly decided he is rewriting everyone else and running the show. That's about a grudge match with someone who isn't even here and doesn't know you.

Listen, I have all day for people critiquing the hell out of Jamey's work on this show! Go for it! Roast him! It's shallow and stupid, even if I think he's matured a bit as a person since the old days. But it takes a village of writers to make a show this bad, not just the latest, and it's not like Ron doesn't have a history of wrecking his own shows. You don't have to make any one person the Wicker Man and burn them in effigy because they used to be just like you, and if you make it personal they're the ones who win, because they're getting paid and you're not. It also blunts and marginalizes any valid criticism when we invent conspiracy theories about them being behind it all like the cigarette-smoking man on The X-Files. Back to the HW, even when Ron starts beefing on Twitter and acting a fool (a time-honored tradition for him at this point) he's the one who wins if you go at it this way too. The only way to come out of this kind of mess with dignity is to either shrug his behavior off, or simply keep laughing when he gets mad and not take it this seriously. I've known how he behaves online for a long time, and I watched Jamey show his ass in real time too. Why would I want to meet him where he lives? This just is not worth it in the 2020s to me, we've got real problems.

Pretty much everything you said, that's why I put it out there earlier, but got ignored - that with all this criticism, why don't people create their own shows? Podcasts can be created... Web Serials if you raise enough $... I would think we'd all be in good company if we partnered up and created.

4 hours ago, Khan said:

That's just another way of saying, "If you think you're so much better than those hacks, why don't YOU trying creating and/or writing a soap?".  Trust me, if people on here really wanted to, they would, and whatever they'd come up with would be ten times more

Why the undue condescension, it's not like it was a bad idea. 

I read a lot of criticism about these writers... Do any of you think maybe you could partner together to create and write a podcast or web serial? It might be more fulfilling for you at this point. 

Honestly, I don't know how I feel about this.

I guess... when I was creating my podcast/soap opera "send up", 'Lust for Life', as a creator who loves soap opera, I wanted to share it with the soap community. Twice I reached out to "Daytime Confidential" to share it... but never heard back. So, I am still a nobody, lol

HOWEVER, no matter who you are, a lot of your blood, sweat and tears and time goes into creating/writing a soap. I don't know Jamey at all, except for what he has posted on Daytime Confidential, but as a fellow creator... I can only presume under pressure when writing a network soap vs. if he was writing his own independent show, it's still equally hard. There's a lot of thinking involved, and I don't mean that to be funny - but you're trying to write to an esteemed voice (like Deirdre Hall, Suzanne Rogers, etc.,), while keeping an audience in mind. You're trying to make sure for both character and audience that you're giving everyone on the canvas a special moment. And sometimes just in how you begin to construct your scene, and you're finally putting down those pieces of dialogue, you're probably getting notes from the network or the production that influence your work. Not to mention meetings (that are probably stressful as our job because while some of us get badgered about "metrics", "ratings" are probably being mercilessly imposed upon soap scribes). And just when the writer has gotten a few edits in - it's time to print what you've got for the upcoming show so the cast and director can work with what you wrote. I am sure even Jamey would agree if there was any more time to be had, he'd totally refine his dialogue. Every writer wants more time, lol

So, even if we come to the conclusion, it's not the best for now... he's definitely got a job where he can get better? 

Thoughts?