JaneAusten

I guess any hope of not going to war in Iran just collapsed. ISIS is probably setting recruitment records.

What's disturbing is that we already has this in place under Bush and part of Obama's term and many of us didn't even know it. I'm not crediting Trump by any means, but there has been so much surveillance of Americans going on already in collaboration with telecom companies and help from silicon valley that none of us are even aware of.

Well it's unconstitutional for one thing and I saw the head of the ACLU on Maddow last night. They have gotten record donations this past week, more people willing to volunteer than ever. The money they have raised is the most since their inception. But he says they are prepping for this. But also a muslim activist on twitter said they already have one. It's called the no fly list which includes a lot of muslim immigrants including children by the way. He wasn't condoning it simply saying that there are already lists the government uses, FBI operatives in Muslim communities and his point was why haven't people been up in arms before now.

Per Gallup, Obama's approval rating up to 65% a jump of 7 points just in this past week. That great advocate Bernie Sanders now says he is willing to work with Trump on upping min wage to $10/hour while he slammed Clinton and Obama non stop on their proposals. I'll ever get behind this man so the democrats better find someone else. How about a democrat. He never introduced one bill in all his years in the senate and his greatest accomplishments were getting 2 post offices in Vermont renamed.

Paul Ryan was right. They are going to overwhelm him with bills in his first hundred days including gutting medicare. The seniors at my moms retirement community are already freaking out. My mom is financially solvent so while it's not welcome, she will be fine. But she's shaking her head at some of them saying I told you so. As the democrats unite behind that dinosaur Bernie Sanders,

Amen. This is one person at a minimum who should be in prison for treason and charged and convicted for war crimes.

It's amusing how he is draining the swamp and replacing them with the same lobbyists, Wall Street cronies, and people we have seen for years. The CEO of JP Morgan Chase, you know one of the banks that the Fed Govmt gave 12 billion dollars to in 2008, turned down the Sec of treasury position. Next up CEO of Goldman Sachs. Seriously are we really comparing FDR to his guy. FDR worked in public service almost his entire life before becoming president, was assistant sec of the navy, governor of New York prior to that. He also cared about Americans and this country and pretty much followed through on the agenda he committed to when he ran. He also had polio something that gave him a depth of understanding of people who suffer and have to claw back. Without it who knows where he would have ended up.

Isn't this guy a lobbyist also?

I agree with part of this but this is a failure of our educational system. We have fallen behind for years in Science and Mathematics and there are really know formal plans in place to compete. This comes from someone me who was a math and technology major in college and worked in the tech industry for a long while before moving into education. I see how deficient our education is particularly in math, and surprisingly girls are still encouraged away from it(there were not a lot of women graduates when I graduated from Univ of Ill with a degree in Math and Minor in Information technology), and people wonder why we are behind and our population does not have the "brains" for it. There are trades that require good solid math and analytical skills also. Heck my nephew is now working for a company that does repairs on municipality equipment and he barely skated through math in high school. He needed math skills. Fortunately the company he works for provided education credits for him recognizing his potential, he went and boosted his math, technology, and analytical skills, and he's now working with a good job. Jobs like auto mechanics now called auto technicians also require perhaps different analytical skills than before due to more computerization in automobiles and the equipment used for diagnosis and in some case repair. I think part of the problem perhaps is the fact that we no longer prepare students education wise for careers outside of pursuing a college education. There used to be a lot of vocational training in high school. A lot of that is gone. The healthcare field is one where the projection long term is for more and more growth. Caregiviers are desperately needed and yes underpaid. But healthcare is also an industry where more skilled personnel are needed. Technicians, nursing assistants are fields where vocational type schooling is the basis.

It's amazing how we learn nothing from history. People can't even remember what a state this country was in 8 years ago. But the US has been moving from a MFTG centric economy to SVC centric for years. And the angst being experienced is the same pain people experienced as we went from AGR to MFTG. There will be people lost in the transition - we have seen some of that. But it's really the millennials who are the worst, many of them with college degrees that apparently are either worthless or they aren't looking hard enough for jobs or not going to areas where they may be able to find jobs that meet their educational requirements. (I have a nephew that is a Bernie lover who fits into category 1 and 2. And he sits home collecting unemployment. He thinks Bernie's plan to raise the minimum wage so he can work at McDonalds and make a living wage is the answer). I don't know what it is honestly. I read an article in Forbes the other day who interviewed CEO's across the country and we currently have 2 million jobs that can't be filled due to lack of skills. One of the reasons immigrants from Asian countries in particular is so high. So why aren't these millennials going to the areas where these jobs are available or pursuing degrees in areas that might employ them. No one ever suggested Clinton was not a flawed candidate but at least she had a retooling program for some of these people. Some of it was pie in the sky but at least it was a starting point. People want to continue to blame Clinton for changing her position on TPP and not crediting Sanders for pushing her. And want to blame her for being honest about the coal industry? It must always be an attack. But hey their leader was the main attacker and never really stopped, what can one expect. And I am still waiting to hear Sanders plan for bringing jobs back or retraining people.

I don't recall mentioning Hillary Clinton in any of this and Mitch McConnell and much of the GOP have already acknowledged the same thing about the coal jobs. Exactly how does losing jobs to the south where right to work states pay far less in wages going to endear anyone. These same voters have overwhelmingly supported raising the minimum wage in state elections across the country. Right to work is a nice way of saying no unions, no mass collective bargaining, no bargaining power, the right can pay us less money and get richer. I think people in the rust belt, still fairly heavy union jobs, get this. People want jobs. You keep saying that people voted because of the TPP and will vote the same way again? Not unless it proves jobs came back. Many of these same people voted for Barack Obama. By the way who saved the US Auto Industry when the beloved GOP wanted to abort and let them crash but has no problem bailing out a financial industry who has not paid the federal government back one dime. So unless the trickle down economic plan, the tax cuts for the rich lead to more jobs, not passing the TPP is meaningless. I didn't support it anyway so I could careless. But people also claim to hate NAFTA? Why? Because they think it lost them jobs. So GM cuts 2000 jobs, more mftg jobs gone, and unemployment in that part of the country rises and you still think these people who supposedly voted due to the TPP are going to vote the same way, not caring that the person who was against it also promised a ton of mftg jobs coming back from China and Mexico? And I am still waiting for someone to tell me what Bernie Sanders plan is for bringing jobs back to the rust belt other than not signing a trade deal? There is none again because these jobs are not coming back. So does he have a plan to retrain people, to relocate them to areas where there are jobs available? I'll wait while this question gets answered. And I would love to hear this plan if there is one.

Well I've been told these people want jobs right. On paper this is great but not signing another trade deal or even repealing NAFTA(and NAFTA has some benefits) isn't going to magically bring all those coal, steel, and manufacturing jobs back. I feel bad for these people because no one not even Bernie had an answer to where are our jobs coming from. Trump plain lied to them. Jobs that have been moved to right to work states in the south for lower wages, have moved to China or Mexico are not coming back. Nor are the 60% of the Mftg jobs coming back that were lost to Robotics and Automation. And GM just announced a plant closure that's going to cost Ohio and Penn 2,000 jobs. And tariffs always sound so great until people see the costs are passed onto them the consumer.

Trump's an opportunist. When I see him appoint impartial Supreme Court justices, tax rich people more, not commit to overturning Roe vs. Wade, stop blaming minorities, then I might buy he's more moderate. Until that happens, everything right now he does and says is straight from the GOP playbook. If Sanders wants to influence the democratic party he need to join it again. He left it after losing the primary by 4 million votes.

Myths that Cost Democrats the election http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044 Not that I think this will matter to anyone who thinks St. Bernie would have won, but pretty interesting stuff especially the Op research stuff Eichenwald got his hands on from the GOP on Sanders. I am sure Clinton had a lot of the same stuff but didn't use it or want to use it in a primary And this isn't everything. David Frum commented on this and said he was told the GOP was going to also hang the failure of the VA on Sanders. That I agree with. And yes they should have let it run out with a bunch of candidates.

If Bernie was a lifelong democrat I might have more sympathy for him but he hopped into the party so that he had the recognition to run a campaign and don't think running in a primary against Clinton didn't get him attention. And I can even agree with him on a few things like the debates of which there were few of and were stuck on Saturday evenings. And I do comment him for being able to generate excitement. His persona which never really appealed to me, I think endeared him to a lot of people. BUT there was no rigging. She won by over 4 million votes. And he never really had her back. I believe he's actually gleeful about the results but if he thinks ALL democrats are going to buy his position and who he wants he has another thing coming. I agree with him to an extent about misunderstanding perhaps ignoring a voting base that's been important to democrats for years, but there are also other demographic groups that have other concerns as well. And less nots forget he's not in the democratic party

Pence pushes for email privacy http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/11/pence-email-privacy-indiana-231332 I just can't

This idiot is going to alienate the bedrock of the current democratic party, black women, I just can't with this fool.

It's lasted a day I have a feeling even the GOP is going to be ready to dump this guy on day 1. Sadly his VP is even scarier.

Trump is on his best behavior? Guess what when Hitler was elected Chancellor Germans convinced themselves he was too. And that tweet last night that we know someone else had to clean up for him said it all. His cabinet is being filled with a lot of the same old establishment and racist people. Now we find out Ryan said their plan is also to privatize medicare (Didn't Trump promise to protect SS and Medicare). At the end of the day it's the same GOP bullshit they will get and sadly is going to hurt the same people who believed all his BS. There is an opportunity here IMO to rebuild the DNC. All the old guard has to go and I have to admit I am out of touch and totally overestimated white women, who are dumber than a box of rocks. But Al Giordano made a good point. Maybe the people leading "revolutions" or rebuilding need to be women, particularly women of color because who better knows how to tackle disenfranchisement and discrimination. I'm already joining the ACLU myself and I have some legal experience so I plan on volunteering. Also Pantsuit Nation on Facebook is now up to 4 million members and are organizing subgroups nationwide all over the country to start talking and working on how to build and work to get good people back in political office at all levels. The subgroup I have joined in the Chicago Northside already has a meeting setup for next week. But we do need people who are organizers, can lead, and know what's involved in promoting and growing a grass roots movement. Men and Women I am scared as hell but I'm also motivated. I've never been an activist before but I am ready for it.

It's funny how horrified the press and MSM (well most of it) were at the results and are now quickly trying to absolve themselves from their own complicity. Frankly I hope in some demented way the Times and CNN gets their asses handed to him by Trump along with a few other fringes. And yes NPR IMO is worthless as the NYT is. Both were complicit and celebrated leading us into a manufactured war. And still haven't paid. Bernie would not have won either. He's a socialist jew. I say that flippantly yes but don't fool yourself into thinking that they would have used that against him. Particularly the big government aspect to target his support with mainstreamers and the anti semite aspect to appeal to the Trump base. Millenials and I am sorry to saw white women(and I am one) are worthless. Nixon was even under audit and released his.

One small ray of sunshine it looks like Kelly Ayotte lost in NH to Maggie Hassan by just over a thousand votes. Small conciliation I know.

Need to decompress but I wonder how easy it's going to be for black people especially to ever trust a white person again. Especially seeing how it's likely some of those who were allegedly counted on for support, betrayed us all for the sake of either making a protest vote, not voting, or protesting by voting for Trump. Regrouping is going to be difficult.

Totally agree and they have really no idea what the responsibilities of being a superpower consists of. Well neither does our President Elect. Fact is we won't be. My original point was I think no one country stays in that position forever. And it's really China not Russia infiltrating on our leadership in the world. They are doing much of what this country did after World War 2 that led us to be the leader of the world. Well except for freedom and democracy. White women and those college educated men that were allegedly with Clinton. Oh and the Bernie Bros. The white women hurts me the most. I didn't believe my sisters were so stupid and would choose misogyny over freedom and independence.

We will persevere. It's hard to have faith and courage but we all have to keep motoring on. And maybe this is a lesson to all of us to not take our democracy for granted. We survived 8 years of Bush and granted it's not really the same, but in some ways it is, the way people really embraced an intellectually unchallenged leader, an idiot really. The difference is I believe George Bush was a well intentioned idiot who loved America yet surrounded himself with corrupt greedy people. This is someone with no moral compass.

I don't disagree but listen to what they talk about - how globalism is a sickness destroying this country. That's why they resent immigrants and think trade deals are the cancer of our country and want to believe that isolationism is the way to go.