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I hope so and I'm hoping that Oprah shows up in the season two episodes as well. So far they haven't upped her episode count yet like they have the others.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHEAP! LMAO I just saw your damn post and I literally snorted!

He better. Because it is TRULY sad when you see the production style of both Greenleaf and Queen Sugar and then you... just have... Tyler Perry comedies and dramas... ... ... ... ... Yeah.

EXACTLY Khan! I was thinking, Oprah ain't playing! She is coming out strong and heavy hittin' a la the great Ali.

They FINALLY released the trailer for the highly anticipated series from Ava DuVernay & Oprah Winfrey, Queen Sugar... last night during the premiere for Greenleaf. I am so ready for this show, Thanks to Ang (ChitHappens).for telling me about this back when the GL thread was initially started. I'm going to try and read the book before the series starts this fall. This is ALSO not from Tyler Perry and the (I keep using this phrase) visually stunning trailer shows you that.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Greenleaf delivers best debut for OWN ever!

http://deadline.com/2016/06/oprah-winfrey-greenleaf-debut-ratings-best-ever-for-own-tyler-perry-the-haves-and-the-have-nots-1201777540/

LOL, she could have just started really young and even did really good sermons as a child/guest preacher... that really resonated with the congregation.

I can get that Cheap. It makes sense, but I just felt bad how fast her father was to shut her down and no one thought she could do a series. Jacob didn't even vouch for her... hopefully she is able to do it on her own. I mean maybe if she comes up with something concrete that she can take to her father and basically pitch him the idea beforehand so that he can understand where she is coming from and where the climax point will be with the series. As I was listening to her talk about her 12 series segment and how they were laughing talking about "Oh, now there are 12 seasons?" I did the math and she could maybe do a 3 series per season or something which would then make up her magical number of 12.

I was looking and seeing the names, the actress that plays Charity, her real name is Deborah Joy Winans and I thought, is she related to Cee & Bebe and it turns out she's their niece!

Also, Jacob has Z E R O shame. Like you're REALLY trying to get it in in the middle of a sermon. The devil is a lie!

Beautifully said Cheap. And I get what you mean now, especially with your first paragraph. I just wish he could watch some other hour long shows to show him that you don't need to be repetitive to fill up an hour which in retrospect is mainly 44 minutes, because you have to factor in the commercials.

Yup, just one last night. 1x02 and 1x03 air tonight at 9 p. and 10 p. respectively.

The opening of the series was absolutely visually stunning. The lighting and that lake... just WOW.

I like the heavy hitters of course, Grace, Dad, Mom and Aunt Mavis. I love Grace and Mavis' interactions... so I think I'm most excited about those scenes and Grace and her father. I am definitely curious about the strained relationship between Grace and her mother. That's something that I would love to see explored throughout the season. I would like to know what Grace meant when she said that she "gave her sister away." That has me thinking.

I wonder what Charity's issue is with Grace trying to help. I mean clearly she is her father's favorite... so she could maybe have some pull with him. But she just kept rebuffing her offer for help. Then, I didn't like the fact that Mac told her to "sit her ass down." Like, you're not her damn daddy. And then no one in her family EXCEPT GRACE (who just got back home) had the balls to say anything to him about how he talked to her. Her own husband was mum. I just don't get that.

I wonder if we'll see Faith in flashbacks or something?

I don't think they needed to waste time on the kids. I have no idea what that snorting of meds scene was all about. Gateway to others kids.... Just say NO.

I liked when Grace went to go see her aunt. I wonder why she sat on that information. Is she scared? Does she just believe Grace is the only one who can solely bring down Mac? I'm ready to see Grace and aunt Mavis turn this mother out.

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?! TWO! SCREW BIG BROTHER! I'll just DVR that. That's awesome.

I'm recording Greenleaf and they have a block, so the premiere will re-air at 8 p. and like Ang said, 2 flippin' hours of Greenleaf. Thanks for that info!

Wyatt dead? That's kinda sad because he's super hot. But I wonder if some of these people eventually want out of this crappy show because they can't take the dialogue. I mean TPs writing for his plays and movies is nowhere near as bad as his television shows. I just don't get it.

Good that Thirsty is dead because I really could not take her and her thirst for that man.

I too questioned that scene Cheap. I happened to tune in at that moment when he had her against the fence and I was wondering if he was in the act of raping her or not.

She's a legend. I'm just so happy to see her back in something, although IMDb tells me she's been having a few recurring gigs since 2014 but they were on shwos that I don't watch. I gotta watch it from start to finish and then get ready for tonight.

DON'T forget that there is another episode tonight on OWN. 

LMAO! You better stop!

Toups, they said that they're doing it their own way. That's what I read yesterday.

Ellen was the best part of it. Weird son that got out of jail... like Bye.

Still confused what Scott Speedman's character is supposed to be... he's not her son? His last name is different from all of theirs. I'd have issues with someone not my kid doing what her kids do. idk idk idk maybe that's just me.  Youngest son that's a crybaby is so cute and made me LMAO!

It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too far apart.

Damn that's a nasty close up and whoever did her invisible part needs to just stop.

Oh, I forgot to add.

The show was given an early season two renewal before the premiere.

http://deadline.com/2016/04/greenleaf-season-2-renewal-own-oprah-winfrey-network-1201741654/

Oh oh oh... Thank you B & Ang. I feel stupid. I need more OWN shows because I can't keep waiting for TP dramas.  It sounds interesting and I will check that out too.

What's Queen Sugar?  That restaurant show?

Wow... if he's mad she asked him to tighten up then that's just sad because he really needs to and shouldn't have needed to be told that. His "explosive" moments, especially on ILYIW can be seen a mile away. There's nothing that's really surprising on that show.

She really should, I mean from The Butler to this.... I love seeing her light up the screen with her commanding presence. I'm kinda hoping she pops up on STAR from Lee Daniels.

No one said he didn't. I remember reading the article that praise TP shows for bringing her network back from basically being null and void. She is grateful to him I'm sure as anyone would be but that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of his shows. And who knows -- if this would have been her first series it could have did good as well, especially since it's an all-black cast and she has some acting powerhouses on here including herself.

But like the YRBB said, he comes with a built in fan base and what he initially was bringing with THAHN was a soapy goodness with a predominately black cast, and sometimes he brings it but othr times like Ang said, you have pass the phrase way too much and I know he's better than that.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm not sure as I am a casual viewer but I can definitely say his other shows, If Loving You Is Wrong and For Better Or Worse for damn sure do!

I love that, pass the phrase. He is horrible at it and I remember watching The Secret Life of the American Teenager and they did that every damn episode.

The iconic cop duo Riggs and Murtaugh are back in the all-new FOX Series LETHAL WEAPON. Don't miss them as they work in a crime-ridden modern-day LA.

I hope this is ok as I did not see a thread for this upcoming show. I'm curious as I love Damon Sr. 

Three talented singers, desperate for a new start and with ambitions of stardom, navigate the cut-throat music business on their road to success.

I know -- even though I watch his shows, I just feel dumb watching them and it is so annoying figuring everything out before it is revealed because we saw it a mile away.

Bujt when they showed this new trailer... I am so interested in seeing the skeletons this family has. Why do I get the feeling the uncle did something to her way back when?

Plus, this is sorta reminding me of the church show on Bounce.