SFK

And I promise to take your advice and do my part about the preservation/making available this classic material. But even moreso, I wholeheartedly agree that there are folks out there who lived it and are more than willing to share their stories. Sites like WoST and We Love Soaps have proven this. In many cases, "We have not because we ask not."

+∞ This is so great.

Now this sounds like my kind of show. In terms of the posh, upper-crust tone, your description reminds me of what others have said of the short-lived Lovers and Friends/For Richer, For Poorer. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your recollections, I felt like a child sitting Indian style listening to a marvelous story unfold. Have you ever visited the Paley Cener (formerly the Museum of TV & Radio)? The next time I go, I will do a search of SS. You mentioned Larry Luckinbill, I understand that his former wife, Robin Strasser, played the role of Iris Ocasek. Robin hasn't shared much (or anything, to my knowledge) about her time on the show, would you share any memories of the character?

Yes indeed, we all want to hear about that Belle!

Eric, I caught bits and pieces of, I'll say the 2nd-4th episodes I guess? I saw the one with Kristen Chenoweth and I think that's the last full one I saw until last night. And of course I've seen the big videos that get posted all over the net like Vogue and Physical (which for the first time I noticed has very gospely chords ). I don't know if it's still the deal, but back when there were only like 4 episodes, they were all available to watch on IMDb so I may catch up, but I fnd the show very easy to follow, you get the characters immediately and the serialized elements can be picked up very quickly.

Are her parents gay? I'm pretty sure I heard her say that her two dads couldn't sew (which I thought was actually a concerted effort to shatter at least one stereotype ). <object width="500" height="405"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/8RfirsJlfxQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1"></param><param'>http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/8RfirsJlfxQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/8RfirsJlfxQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"></embed></object>

Emerald Point N.A.S. was also set in South Carolina.

Yeah, the set was pretty impressive and I assumed it was where the show would have taken place but I guess I was wrong. I had read that Louis Edmonds was in it, yet I didn't even realize who he'd played until the closing credits rolled. Guess I spaced out.

That's funny because I was wondering about the site's sketch factor. I just Google'd the name of the movie after reading about it on Marj's site (was watching some old Capitol in Italian on YouTube which got me to thinking of Marj ) and was surprised to see that it was actually available to watch online. I'm about half in and it's a fine way to pass 50 min. on a rainy Saturday afternoon while you poke around on your computer. The main guy and his sidekick are like grown up Jonny and Hadji, the caretaker guy is straight outta Scooby-Doo. I love watching soap-like, taped programs from this era though. Little time capsules, and you think things like, "OLTL had been on for a year at this point, AMC was a year away..."

Forgive me if this is a repost/old news as I'm not up on my DS knowledge, but I thought I'd share this program I stumbled upon. It's a 1969 failed pilot (that aired as a TV movie) from Dan Curtis called Dead of Night: A Darkness at Blaisedon starring a young and beautiful Marj Dusay. The reviews say it wasn't much to write home about, but perhaps it'll interest DS and Dusay fans nevertheless. http://veehd.com/video/3561715_Dead-of-Night-A-Darkness-at-Blaisedon-1969

Thanks for the updates! I did catch the ep where Emma and that guy got busted for pot in the dorm. Emma is an interesting looking girl, she went from looking like a little 40 year old mouse, then got prettier when she filled out a little. I think Joey's daughter, Manny's little sister IRL (Craig makes a joke about that in one ep) is the cutest little girl ever. Annoying, but cute. Screw TNG, I wish they'd just do an adult series with all the original Degrassi Jr. and Sr. high people. I miss those folks. There's a reunion from 1999 on YouTube (complete with crazy-ass Stephanie Kaye): <object width="500" height="405"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/SX9h_kEX4j0&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&border=1"></param><param'>http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/SX9h_kEX4j0&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/SX9h_kEX4j0&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"></embed></object>

I'm also a grown ass man who's got a love for this show. SFK and his other half fell hard for this show and we are now fanatics. By no choice of our own we've done a lot of skipping around and we're not doing that anymore, just relying on the dvds because after we watched the original series we look at Joey, Caitlin, Snake, and Spike in SUCH a different light, watching the first few seasons of TNG over again has been like watching a whole 'nother show. I did catch some of the newer stuff not too long ago though, the nerd girl with the glasses who's with the guy who's got the Justin Bieber haircut and the kid who wants to be de-gayed. I think Spinner is the only TNG original who is still around, right? Are Emma, Manny, and Liberty still on?

Oh definitely. Of course Stephanie Beacham could read an Applebee's menu and have us all riveted. Dynasty didn't seem to be too good at creating new characters as much as riffing on their core characters. A Sable, a Dominique, they work because of Alexis, not in spite of her. And I think the least successful Dynasty characters were those who were in any way "normal", generic, boring, which sounds like an obvious comment, but what might be forgiven as subtle or contained on another series was just bland on Dynasty. The two riffs on Krystle, Ashley and Frankie on The Colbys were two snoozes. Jeff's mom and woman were a lot alike, just like the ladies who played them, very similar careers as stunning brunettes in iconic films who never were the best actresses.

Lol, totally, I always say to myself, "Meanwhile, at Alexis's penthouse..." ETA: And at La Mirage, there's always that same Jaguar and red Cadillac Eldorado pulling up out front.

Did they ever say who raped Sable and was Monica and Miles' father? It wasn't Philip was it? No, I don't think so. But at any rate, that little factoid resolved the twins being involved with their cousins which everyone seemed to get all indignant about (Jeff and Monica being first cousins), yet no one said anything earlier about Jeff/Miles and Fallon. Their mothers were first cousins.

In Nolan Miller's TV Archive interview, he makes it plain that he and others were not fans of Miss Bellwood. Which is probably why she ate fire.

That's probably the most detailed recast announcement I've ever heard. Cat Hickland was also a temp Brooke, she said it was a bit of a conflict of interest as Capitol had been given the boot for B&B.

Sandra looks great in those pictures above. I wish I could see Iris and teenaged Dennis in the seventies, AWHP used to have some great audio clips.

I don't think she was so popular with the cast and crew either.

Christine (Stanley's little sister) was in the role when I first started catching the show and I was really surprised the first time I saw blonde Sandra who'd played the part before her. Though blonde, Sandra had those big eyes, cheekbones, and nose like Vicky.

I'm not saying this just because it started off as a miniseries, but those clips from the opening really do look more like one of the countless minis of the era rather than a weekly show. It's got that look. Wonder how expensive the show was to produce. Brandon Tartikoff was not a fan of primetime soaps, and he begrudgingly gave Flamingo Road and Bare Essence the pass, he figured NBC needed them given the era. The BA mini was a huge ratings success over on CBS which is why he brought it to his network and turned it into a series. So I watched the last episode of Emerald Point N.A.S. and I'm mad that this for the most part snooze of a show ended with a cliffhanger that totally piqued my curiosity! Not an awful show, just a little sleepy, like the lazy Sunday afternoon of '80s primetime soaps. IMO, Sela Ward as Hilaray aka Bitchy Brows is the show's saving grace. She is hot and I wish she'd been given even more to do. This show could have been so good if they'd kicked it up some more notches, they had a good cast and an interesting dynamic with the two families. They made a point of mentioning that Harlan's (Robert Vaughn) children Hilary and Simon (MacGyver) were half-siblings and I wonder what other Bond girls would have been brought in to play their mothers had the show seen another season. There was also weird sexual energy between those two, but then again, there was sexual energy when Hilary was alone staring off into space. And Robert Loggia as evil Rrrrussian, so '80s.

I know! I saw some of the mini on cable a few years back, and of course it's on YouTube. I wonder if the series is on Ioffer or something. Not to judge a book by its cover, but it already looks more interesting than Emerald Point N.A.S. turned out to be, I still have one episode left of that. I love how overtly sexual and violent those clips are. Genie Francis and Jennifer O'Neill keep taking off their tops, and doesn't it look like Jessica Walter is getting h___ at :41? Plus all those slaps, I'm sorry, but I can't stop laughing and replaying Jennifer O'Neill getting slapped at :46. So glad that Jessica Walter got to play an '80s soap bitch. She laid the groundwork with Play Misty for Me. Esther Shapiro wanted her for Alexis, and of course I would NEVER trade Joan, but I'm very curious to see what she did with Ava.

Someone uploaded the German opening credits for Bare Essence the series. As with most U.S. soaps shown in foreign markets, sounds like BA got a new theme in Germany (in the preview, you can hear the instrumental for "In Finding You I Found Love" so I'm assuming it was carried over from the miniseries in America, not sure if the Sarah Vaughan vocal was as well). Jennifer O'Neill replaced Linda Evans, Jessica Walter replaced Lee Grant, and Jaime Lyn Bauer replaced Donna Mills. <object width="500" height="405"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/BT8piAszVHQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&border=1"></param><param'>http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/BT8piAszVHQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/BT8piAszVHQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"></embed></object> Tyger with a "y". Love that.

I was watching Carson Daly, something I never do, and they had Marina Orlova from Hot For Words on there. She said growing up in Moscow, she was obsessed with Santa Barbara and she'd look at the beautiful seaside mansions and cottages and the folks who wore jeans and tank tops and would say, "I want to live there!" Santa Barbara was her American dream.

ETA: Oh, okay, in this one whatshername is having one of her visions and young Brandon and Sharina are wearing what they had on in that pic I was talking about. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>