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On 7/24/2020 at 12:01 PM, Jonathan said:

 

Lorraine messes up some of the details.  She said that Kevin Sheffield was Palmer's nephew.  She also said that Kevin's mother was played by Marj Dusay.  

 

I love when she said that she would never kill Darnell 

I thought she said Marj Dusay but I wasn't sure lol. Aside from a few errors, I was amazed how detailed her memory was of the story.

She said she kept watching AMC after she left in '97. I can't imagine having to watch the dreck McTavish churned out in 1998 and know you were let go in favour of that. 

This was probably our one chance to get specific details on the original ending on ABC, but I realize that wasn't the purpose...

54 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

What a weird thing to regret. That story was almost universally praised. Did he give a reason?

He didn't feel the story was a realistic or rewarding way to bring Jesse back (I assume referring to the Rob Gardner/Papel/diamond in a stuffed elephant nonsense) and that, while the viewers seemed to like having Angie and Jesse back, given how significant Jesse's death was for the show, "we really shouldn't have gone there" and resurrected him. 

During the Guiding Light writers reunion, James Harmon Brown expressed some regret at having brought Jesse back from the dead on AMC, which surprised me as the Hubbard stuff was probably the one bright spot of E&B's tenure. 

Regarding Lorraine Broderick in 2010:

When AMC was wrapping up, SOD did an interview with Broderick. In the next issue, in the "Things We Know But Shouldn't Tell You" section, it said that Broderick had in fact wanted the HW position in 2010 but that the network (i.e. Frons) didn't want her. Given that SOD had just spoken with Broderick, I think it's safe to assume that the source of that tidbit was Broderick herself.

17 minutes ago, RavenWhitney said:

Maybe Casiello wasn't hired because they've rehired Susan Dansby after the perfectly awful Ambitions was rightly cancelled.

They won't rehire Dansby when they have Lynn Martin (unless they fire her). Can only have one black writer. 

I may be wrong, but I get the feeling that TC did in fact write the script, perhaps on a trial basis and then they didn't pick him up after his trial script(s). Thus him saying that Y&R didn't "hire" him,  but I haven't seen him flat out say he didn't write it. It just seems like he tried to get a job there, they said "No thanks", and now he's trying to save face, going on about how how happy he is with his current gig. 

Or not. 

Gundaker also worked on the AMC/OLTL reboots (as did most of the ATWT production team). Putting aside Chris Goutman, ATWT had a great team of producers (Gundaker, Carole Shure, Sonia Blangiardo, etc). 

Noel Maxam's name is gone from Y&R credits, and former ATWT producer Vivian Gundaker is now a producer. 

AMC: Although his impact was not on-screen yet, I had a feeling of doom when, in his first interview, Brian Frons  essentially said that the only characters that really interested him were Simone, Aidan, Maggie (at the time, all three had been on the show less than a year and were poorly-developed and pointless) and Greenlee, and that he hated everything else about the show. For me, the "What Women Want" episode that launched Fusion signaled the breaking of the show. When McTavish returned, she put some of the pieces back together for a while, but then smashed it to smithereens with the callous way in which she wrote out Edmund. Edmund had become a bore, and John Callahan has been phoning it in for years, but that was just insulting and awful. To me, it was at that point that McTavish's third HW stint went off the rails, which started a downward spiral the show never recovered from. 

James Harmon Brown was listed as the SW for the Sept. 19th episode of Y&R. 

Didn't Nate inherit Neil's penthouse? Now Phyllis and/or Adam has it.

I knew they wouldn't end up giving Nate that set...or any set for that matter.  

56 minutes ago, RavenWhitney said:

Where is the pic posted?  She may have taken it down already.

She may have taken it down but you can see it here:

https://twitter.com/dylangreen44/status/1131238455684599809

Based on a script that Eva LaRue posted it looks like Annie Compton is out at Y&R and Amanda Beall has been bumped up to co-HW/storyliner 

24 minutes ago, xtr said:

And Cane will continue to lean on Traci as he struggles with life without Lily. Traci will end up being inspired by Cane in an unexpected way. And Lily will make some more appearances but not in ways that people suspect. 

 

I have a (bad) feeling we are going to see fantasy sequences playing out the novel Traci is writing about Cane trying to win back Lily. So we will see Lily/CK in those. OR in Traci's imagination she will be the Lily character, and thus no need for CK. 

It's obvious people expressed a desire for more Traci in that CBS survey, but this sounds awful. 

I have a feeling (and believe I read at one point) that McTavish was sort of living vicariously through Felicity LaFortune's Laurel, with Jack and Trevor fighting over her, etc. There was a strong physical resemblance...

Yesterday on Fox Lite (aka CNN) one of their "reporters" was explaining that in states where the Republicans are ahead in early voting it's a good sign for the GOP. Okay, makes sense. Then she stated that in states where the Democrats are ahead in early voting it's also a good sign for the GOP. I can't remember her reasoning. Both she and the anchor also couldn't contain their joy that the Republicans were going to take the Senate and the overall impression left for the viewer was that it's a done deal and Democrats need not bother wasting their time going to vote.

"Liberal media" my behind.

My prediction (based on absolutely nothing) is that enrollment will stay slow and flat until mid-December then it will jump right before the signup deadline which will only make the sites slow and crash again. What's disgusting for me is watching Republicans in the states work so hard to make this fail. I can't even begin to tell you the machinations Mary Taylor, our Lt. Gov. who is also the Director of the Ohio Dept. of Insurance, has gone through to sabotage the rollout in this state. The lies, the kneecapping, etc...it's a dereliction of responsibility that is only surpassed by the work our Sec. of State has gone through to make it harder to vote. I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor had been sitting in the server room with a pair of wire cutters.

Ha, I raise you the Florida Republicans led by the grotesque corrupt governor Rick Scott who tried to pull a Jeb Bush and commit election fraud to steal the election for Romney and is now sabotaging the ACA by every means possible including preventing the navigators from working at the state community health departments. I understand how they justify their racism and hatred of people of color, the poor, and the sick, but it never ceases to amaze me that these people consider themselves, Christians.

I was watching Chris Hayes' segment on MSNBC earlier tonight on the sabotage being carried out by various Repub governors and it really is just disgusting.

Unfortunately I expect the mainstream "liberal" media is going to launch a full-throttle attack on the administration/ACA now to balance out having been extra tough (in their minds) on the Republicans the past few weeks (extra tough= "both sides are equally to blame", "Obama is so mean/arrogant")

I do think Kathleen Sebelius deserves to be fired for the roll-out mess. But making a change now would probably do more harm than good and I imagine the confirmation of any HHS candidate would be stalled indefinitely.

Anyone have any thoughts on the reportedly extremely low levels of enrollment in the healthcare exchanges so far?

I've seen various numbers being bandied about, the highest being 36,000. The administration's goal was reportedly 7 million by the end of this year.

I'm preparing to duck, but I think JL's Liza (at least the last year or so of her portrayal) mirrored MW's Liza circa 1995-1996.. when she was sexier and a force to be reckoned with.

I totally agree with this, especially during the period where Lorraine Broderick was writing in between Pratt and K/S. That Liza was closer to the '95 Liza than anything we got from MW's Liza from ~1997 until she left (which, IMO, was due to a combination of the writers but also MW herself).

I think they had Liza say that she felt so powerless when on the run with Colby and getting a law degree was a way to regain a sense of power.

Also, although I don't think Pratt ever referenced this, after Colby came back to PV in 2006 Adam warned Liza over the phone that if she ever set foot in PV again (or if she ever tried to contact Colby at all...something to that effect) he would put her in a heap of legal trouble for having kidnapped Colby. So she could have been preparing to fight all that.

Do we know what John Callahan did to get on McTavish's sh*t list? Her initial method of killing off Edmund (having him take a bullet for Maria) would have been a noble end for the character, so something must have gone down subsequent to that.

The Edmund discussion reminded me about this candid interview with ELR about the whole mess.

Edmund was originally supposed to die in Feb 2004 as a consequence of the gunshot he sustained on New Year's Eve at the hands of those people Carlos and Juan Pablo were involved with.

John has sought to dispel the nasty rumors that you got him fired.

ELR: That was so not the case. It could not be further from the truth. As a matter of fact, they wanted to fire him a year ago. I went to [ABC Daytime president] Brian Frons and begged him to keep John so we could at least leave around the same time. Even a year ago, I was already considering not staying at AMC, and I said it would be really bad timing for them to fire John a year before my contract's up. I didn't want to have to sell our house right away if he lost his job and got work [outside New York], and I wanted to keep him near our daughter, Kaya. Frons was understanding and everyone was as accommodating as they could be.

When they finally decided to let John go earlier this year, they gave him only three weeks notice. That kind of floored us. We both went through an incredible depression during the whole last month of him working there. Our characters and our personal lives are intertwined —there's nothing we can do about that — so that made it very final for us. All My Children had been everything to us for many years. The beginning of the end was heartbreaking for us.

John didn't want it. He was devastated. He would've stayed at AMC forever. They stopped writing for us once they knew we were breaking up. I guess they knew I probably wasn't going to stay past my contract so... I don't know what they thought. It's not like I've had a phenomenal story line since Edmund's been dead. If they weren't going to write for Maria and Zach, why not write for Maria and Edmund? I guess they decided to give Maria some story on her way out by killing Edmund.

Edmund's end — turning evil, pretending to be disabled and then dying off — was so negative. And Maria's children have been so disrespectful to their mother! It's been a horrible destruction of both characters. I don't know why they felt they needed to do that. As soon as Edmund died, I went running to Zach — which was so not Maria.

I feel like they played the children so heavy-handedly that nobody really cared whether the kids were crushed over the death of their father or not. It squashed any caring for Edmund and all the years he spent there, because the kids were such monsters about it. The heart of the situation is that these kids lost Edmund, who was their only real parent from the time they were little, since Maria had been missing for years. You rarely saw the grief. You only saw that they were brats just for the sake of being brats. It was very careless story line.

Marceline, it isn't just the right questioning the data. Everyone is suspicious of the numbers.

I think it's sad, too, that we can't trust the judiciary, the Justice Department, the Federal Reserve... or anyone.

Really?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82087.html#ixzz28SFPlXQn

The word from Republicans who have worked with the jobs numbers before? Bunk.

“The numbers are put together by trained professionals and in a process that keeps politicians from interfering,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum and a chief economic adviser to former President George W. Bush. “Any sort of suggestion to the contrary is wrong.”

Former Bush administration spokesman Tony Fratto took to Twitter to say: “Stop with the dumb conspiracy theories. Good grief.”

That clip shows the best and worst of Boyd Dumrose's set design work at AMC IMO. The original SOS was HIDEOUS. It was as if they packed aluminum foil, Christmas tree tinsel, and any can of paint they could find into a canon, set it off and voila! Roger Mooney re-faced the set in 2001 and, while it lost the "salsa" flavor, it was a dramatic improvement (I think they also ditched the slew of background dancers at the same time which helped a lot).

Erica's "citrus" house, on the other hand, was one my most favorite sets. I wonder what the behind-the-scenes reason was for getting rid of it.

A SuperPAC that supports President Civility released the most disgusting ad in political history, effectively blaming Governor Romney for a woman's death:

The ad makes me cringe. Paul Begala needs to tone it down over at Priorities USA. But the most disgusting ad in political history!?

And the Romney camp responds with this: “To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care,” Andrea Saul, Romney’s campaign press secretary, said during an appearance on Fox News.

Say WHAT?

Some on the right are saying that comment just ensured Romney's loss. Which I highly doubt. But his campaign is such a joke. They are lucky the MSM is propping them up.