quartermainefan

Does anyone know the origin of these videos? It sounds like the actual actor is speaking as Tywin.

I don't know who you were talking to, but whoever it was just has a thing about nudity since the show has gone to great lengths to make the women of the show as tough as the men and who move story as much as the men. It is just kneekerk faux-feminism if anyone told you otherwise. If some woman somewhere was uncomfortable watching, that is more a statement about some prude than it is about the show. Also, nowhere is it written that women are better judges of television shows than men. Huffingtonpost put together a video called "The Bad Ass Women of Game Of Thrones" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/game-of-thrones-badass-women_n_3403640.html And you should show this to these wilting flowers who can't stand the site of a nipple or whatever it was that turned them off to the show. The show since day one has had the ladies just as much in the forefront as the men, and if any leading actress on the show showed as much skin as Khal Drogo did week after week let them come forward with clips.

This is one of my favorite scenes so far in the whole series, and when Sansa gives Joffrey that look, it was like she woke up. The thing about Sansa is she is a prisoner basically, in a position of no power and very few opportunities to make any sort of heroic decisions. I do recall though in the big battle of last year where the castle was under siege she was the one who rallied the women and showed compassion to people, while all Cersei (who I also love) could do is gt drunk.

Sansa is one of the few characters whose personality has been allowed to change as her story unfolds. She started out as a silly, nasty girl but there was a scene late in season one where with just a look of her eyes you saw this girl was growing up fast. She is immature, not too immature. One of the strengths of the show is that not everyone is equally mature and strong, and Sansa's immaturity was important to her story. I am a Sansa fan and I don't think I would want her behaving like Arya, I have Arya for that. One of the greatest things about the show is even supporting characters are fleshed out and given attention, and Sansa the supporting character is on no less frequently than her starring siblings.

Anti-climactic finale. There were a couple of moments that advanced the plot along but nothing worth ending a series on. The promo-ed Tywin/Joffrey scene was a fake out, the identity of the torturer was a big nothing, and Jaime's scene ended just as it began. The Bran scene was nice as finally someone met someone else, but other than that I got nothing. The very last scene was a big "so what?". Why do I care that freed slaves were now freed doubly. They were freed once already I didn't need to see them verify that for me. And then the whole Gendry plot thread was a detour into nothing. I imagine he will be rowing for quite a few episodes.

I truly believe 20 years from now it will still be on lists of one of the best shows to ever be on TV.

Jon and Dany (and Arya) are the clear leads, but Jon and Dany each star in their own little TV shows that could literally be edited out and set up as spin offs. If Dany makes it to the mainland and interacts with anyone named Lannister or Stark by season 6 I will be shocked. At the pace her story is proceeding, she should hit land sometime around season 12.

I just can't get away from the scene in season 1 where Ned said all the Baratheon illgitimate children had black hair (where Joffrey did not). Targaryans seem as blond as blond can be, and Starks don't tend to have jet black hair either. So where did Jon get his black hair from? That's just thing that sticks with me.

Back on page 8 of this thread, July 2011 I posted my Jon theory

It's not the same, at least not for me. Part of the thing about the series was watching these various Starks all struggling to get back to each other, Arya especially, the boys trying to find Jon, Robb trying to find the girls. And now I see it is just a bleak neverending, no pay off endeavor. Arya will never find anybody as far as I can see. The boys will probably never find Jon, Sansa will never be rescued either. It is just a futile exercise for the family of good. I love the Lannisters, but every story needs the heroes too, and sometimes there has to be some sense of triumph like the goodguys won one. I just don't see that happening any time soon for any of them. We watched Arya struggle for two years to get to Robb, and all she got was watching her dog die. At least they could have let her rescue the wolf. That simple thing alone would have been satisfying.

Infuriating episode. The show is just so bleak and I don't know where the show goes if you kill off the good guys. So Tywin wins the war 1-2-3. Not satisfying at all. Poor Robb, he was such a good guy who just made a couple of mistakes. The actor did a really good job playing him because the role was not one of the flashy leads and still Rob came out to be an ongoing concern you wanted to see what would happen next. Cat I liked too even though so many of the problems that befell her family stemmed from her decisions. Had she not freed Jaime, the Carstarks would have not turned on Robb,

This made me sad watching it. <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q18eu5BG2k4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Bob Dole came to fame as Gerald Ford's running mate in 1976 and he was a hyper partisan, nasty attack dog. As the years went on he mellowed and became known as a lovable grouch quick with a wisecrack. He dutifully ran against Bill Clinton 1996 when he had no shot but someone from his party had to, and he was an old pro who had been around washington working with the big names of his era. This is the first time I have seen him in years and it just makes me sad to see what has become of him. His mind is still sharp and he knows what he is saying (and what he is saying is right), but his body is failing him.

And Dick Cheney used public dollars to wage a war as a source of his own entertainment. Did he pay anything back? Newt Gingrich used public dollars to not examine whitewater but to seek out Clinton affairs and then used more public dollars trying to impeach him for having the nerve to lie about cheating on his wife. Did he pay anything back? This is the one guy out of all of them who actually paid the government back. The NJ governor that put his boyfriend into cushy jobs, he didn't pay anything back. The pedo congressman who went after male pages a few years back, he didn't pay anything back. The guy who stored cash in his fridge paid nothing back. John McCain was involved in the biggest banking scandal pre 2008 and he paid nothing back. This guy spent a few dollars on planes or hotels, paid the money back, the woman he ran to see he is engaged to I believe. It is a crimeless crime. There isn't a single victim in his case.

I don't think what he did had anything to do with ethics. This is the guy that ran away to south america to be with another woman? Isn't he now engaged to her? It's not like he was conducting a sleazy hooker binge one weekend. Clearly he was married to the wrong woman, and he felt so strongly about it to the point where he literally ran away. How is that a matter of ethics? He didn't steal money or anything like that. About the worst he did was use public money to pay for his traveling. But lets be real here, if the country wasn't so provincial and puritanical he wouldn't have felt the need to run. He cheated on his wife and therefore you admit you could not vote for him. How does he cheating on his wife in any way impact his intellectual capabilities? And what does any of this have to do with ethics? Who is worse, Newt Gingrich who dumped his dying wife on her deathbed or this guy whose big crime was that he ran away to be with a woman he wanted to marry? Ethics would be a discussion of John Edwards, the scum of the earth. This guy is a saint in comparison. Now if you want to discuss a lack of ethics, look at those republican Oklahoma senators who were against FEMA and money going to NJ and NY but suddenly want FEMA to come in and help Oklahoma, population 3 when last checked. Ethics is we help those 3 people even though they were against helping the millions of NY and NJ people. That was petty and hateful, showed a lack of character and no ethics whatsoever. I would trust Sandford over those jokes from OK crying for help when it was only a few months ago they were willing to let NJ be washed away.

Good episode. You have to love how Joffrey never fails to find new ways to be rotten. He has to be the meanest character on all of TV. All the Lannisters were in fine form this episode. I loved Cersei first threatening to kill her future daughter in law/sister in law, and then dismissing her beloved gay fiancee so nonchalantly. I really don;t understand why Cersei and Tyrion just don't tell Tywin no at some point. The Gendry stuff interests me, but what is it with this show and penises??? This is the second episode they have come under attack.

Charles Dance has emerged as one of the MVPs of the show. His character started out so minor in season 1, but now if Tywin doesn't show up every episode I am disappointed. And he works well with everyone, from Arya to Joffrey and all the adults along the way.

Poor Theon, I have to just hope for his sake this is all being done by renegade rabbis. This story seems so unnecessary to the greater plot, I am not sure why the author felt the need to add it. This episode was sort of so so, not much happened except for Jaime continuing to show his attachment to Brienne. I wanted more from the Tywin/Joffrey scene. I don't know what I wanted, but I guess I wanted Tywin to take charge and not pretend to placate Joffrey and his kingly fantasies about running things. Robb seems incredibly happy so his days have to be numbered.

In 2011 HBO's subscriber fees were $1.3 Billion. HBO as I read this is owned by Time/Warner which has annual revenues exceeding $10 Billion and possibly $15 Billion by now. Assuming each episode costs $6 million, HBO spends $60 million, a paltry sum to T/W who also makes money by showing HBO content overseas. HBO has over 90 million subscribers worldwide forking over their money every month. http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0812/how-hbo-makes-money.aspx I honestly don't think HBO is breaking the bank on these shows. They are rolling in cash, T/W is beyond capable of financing HBO.

He should have punched him out. It's creepy and shows signs of a sick obssessive personality. The MIT thing was beyond silly. The songs weren't so hot either.

I love that there are so many characters. I think the answer is not to cut characters but to have 5 more episodes a year or make each episode 90 minutes. It adds to the sense we are watching this whole world.

well her nickname is The Queen Of Thorns....

I loved this episode. One of my few complaints with the series has been due to the large cast no one ever gets more than five minutes of screentime in these short little eavesdropping scenes. We got a nice extended visit with Jon Snow which was really needed. I wish the show would occasionally showcase a single locale like they did with the war episode last year because this one episode with Jon really served him well and helped establish his relationships with the people he is with. If he isn't seen again until the finale it wouldn't hurt him one bit because the show went into great detail with him this episode. Diana Rigg is great. She's been great for 50 years and the scene with the Queen and Tywin was outstanding. These two should get married! I had to turn away during the Theon scene, it was gruesome. I was a little unclear about who was sailing away at the end but I have to assume it was the gay knight (I forget his name). Poor Sansa. I continue to love Jaime and Brienne and I love how she helped him cut his dinner. These two are an unlikely breakout pair but they just work. And again he is looking out for her.

No, not as a favored child but he does think he is above Cersei as a person (and maybe he is). She thinks she is above him too. And both are impressed with themselves and Tywin is impressed with neither.

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau has become the best actor on the show, or at least he is a good actor in the best role. His scene retelling what happened at King Landing was just a guy talking and yet riveting waiting to hear what happened and why. I also loved the last bit when he corrected Brienne on his name. Tywin Lannister has to be the toughest Lannister of all, the guy just is relentless. That scene was great too and I loved how it started out brother and sister each thinking they are above the other, and by the end of it they were exactly in the same boat when it came to dear old dad.

Yet another episode where Santana steals the show. Naya Rivera is the unsung hero of Glee, routinely outsinging people with bigger voices. You don't need glory notes to sing songs (which is why you are dull Unique and Mercedes) and you do need to do more than just sing every note technically correct (that would be Rachel and Kurt). I don't think she has ever given a bad song on the show. And I was surprised at what a performer Jane Lynch is musically. She really sold that song. Sarah Jessica Parker was also good.