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BH: It's bittersweet watching the closing finale of BH with that music, mainly because this used to be my favorite franchise. The finale 'fight' was so contrived and non-existent, they had to dig back to last season for an excuse. Kyle looked ridiculous having a tantrum about f*cking Pantygate, though she inadvertently put her finger with what is wrong with the show: everybody is so self-scripted and afraid to show how they really feel. Rinna acknowledged it too when she said she pulled back emotionally because she didn't feel like fighting 'injustices' (cue a shot of VanderSatan). It sounded like something Erika would have said. Most of these women seem desperate to imitate Erika, from glam squad to keeping their emotions in check and watching from the sidelines. If everybody is watching from the sidelines, waiting to pounce on easy prey, it doesn't make for riveting TV. Couldn't help but feel bad for Kyle tonight. Watching American Woman, it is clear Kyle cannot let go of her past and childhood. Kathy and Kim just will not give her the love and validation she needs. I was surprised at how unironic and 'normal' the clips seemed -- like the show was made in the 1990s and not 2017. The mother character seemed strong and caring of her children, but I'm not sure Big Kathy was like that all the time. Maybe Kyle needs to rewrite her childhood in a more palatable form, hence the show. I also see why Kyle projects so much neediness and loathing on LVP. She craves deep devotion from the women in her life, and when she can't get it from Kathy and Kim, she expects LVP to fill that void. P.S.: This better not be a 3-part reunion! Even the witchy-poo Carlton season had more going on than this year!

Saturday with Nene dancing in her Kim wig made me lmao. Good times!

Lol that's what it is!! This special snowflake thinks she's the most hilarious, charming, shadiest chick around, the OG of her franchise, when in reality she's an ostrich-necked pretty girl who has coasted on her looks all her life. There isn't much behind the green eyes and blonde weave. Even Kyle has more to offer! @DaytimeFan I love Karen and the way she urged her daughter to stay strong because it's events like these that are the making of you. I also love that she and Ray went to Monique's and got right in with the crowd, circulating and talking to people. Ray even got his dance on! Meanwhile, miserable Robyn and roach-in-a-wig Charrisse were outside, alone, miserably bitching about Karen and their hostess. Nice! It must also kill them that Karen was looking gorgeous at that 'press con' (see the gif of the Grande Dame that Cheap posted).

Potomac I hope Gizelle and Robyn are getting slated on social media for their assery. What makes them think they are better than the other women that they can sneer at their misfortune? Especially after everything they went through in their own households. Gizelle's #FreeUncleBen t shirt really showed the trashy, wannabe-shady-but-failing twit she is. I am Team Karen all day every day so far this season. Robyn is a classic mean-girl sidekick; she's passive-aggressive and has the nerve to act outraged when the person she is targeting strikes back at her. I noticed she couldn't even show up at Monique's house without back-up, in this case Charrisse. Damn, it must KILL Charrisse to not be a regular this season of the Hugers' fall from grace! The long-time relationships between these women feel real, though, and Monique's birthday for Chris was the first time in a LONG time on a RH franchise that an event looked and felt authentic. It was filled with Chris's friends and family who didn't notice or care about the cameras. I really liked it. New girl Candiace (ugh! that spelling. I keep reading it as 'Candy Ass' in the intro) is growing on me, too.

She wants a truce like I want syphilis. She is desperate to perpetuate this fight and play victim -- it likely got Tardy renewed for next season. However, given that she has to support 17 children, Kroy her personal Spanx-puller-upper, and ridiculous spending like those horrific lips, she's lost that additional RHOA paycheck. Get to hustlin, Brianna ! ATL: Eva brought very little to the table last night apart from the fact that she's about to pop. I liked her on ANTM but I don't think she brings anything to RHOA. I am ready for Solo-Cup-and-Cigs to get her ass lips handed back to her next week. That's what happens when you play dirty!

Lol it's a case of Guess the Bravolebrity. (Mary Joe = Luann, Sauna = Kyle, Aviva = Nene). Aidy Bryant can do no wrong imo. And I do think the RH intros are inspired ridiculousness. Bye, trick! You brought it on yourself!

Some of the filmed HW shows may be disappointing us, but on this week's WWHL, the HWs have been bringing it! It's been a lot of fun.

Ok, so this is a very interesting article, as expected from Variety. I'm not talking about the renewals of existing shows; I think we can guess which shows are coming back, and basically all the RH shows are returning, along with VPR, Southern Charm, M2M, etc. Incredibly, Don't Be Tardy has been renewed for, like, it's 17th season! That's as many seasons as Kim has children! What is interesting is the new series. Two in particular jumped out at me. One was Mexican Dynasties, a reality show in Mexico City following some super-wealthy families. Since the richest man in the world (Carlos Slim) hails from Mexico City, there is definitely megawealth in MC. The other is (I am pretty sure) a new RH show -- Real Housewives of San Antonio. It's another Texan RH but the focus is on Latina HWs. I know some of you have mentioned in the past wishing Dallas was more diverse in reflecting Texas's Latino roots. Well, it looks like this is Bravo's attempt at rectifying that. Bravo's descriptor: Mexican Dynasties (working title) Mexico City is the modern cultural mecca of Latin America, and is home to some of the planet’s richest elite. This series will put a spotlight on the notoriously private, high society world in Mexico City by focusing on three family dynasties that made their fortunes in the entertainment, beverage, and luxury car company industries. This docuseries will explore these successful multigenerational families through both comedy and heart in ways that only close-knit relatives can, particularly those that have known one another for decades. They will challenge stereotypes and showcase the revealing, luxurious and over the top lifestyles in this cosmopolitan destination. Untitled San Antonio project (working title) This docuseries follows a tight knit group of women and their families living in San Antonio, Texas, who are affluent, sophisticated U.S. citizens or recently naturalized citizens of Mexican decent. In their upscale and beautiful gated communities, these women will face a new set of challenges in adapting to US culture while working to keep their roots alive and well. Hope both projects get screened this year!

I'm not sure why Tinsley got asked back, but it likely had to do with her lovely, wealthy unicorn of a boyfriend -- though that SL has clearly now fizzled and he is ghosting her. Could be her mother (who I could watch all day) but we haven't seen her either. Tinsley seems to be Carole's parrot at the moment, blankly repeating her opinions as her own. Personally I feel Kristen Taekman should never have left. She could give as good as she got when it came to Ramona and even Heather. And her Ashley-Madison-browsing husband was so awful and unsympathetic, he was like the Jim Bellino of RHONY (without the 'we're Chrisshun' fakery).

NYC: An 'early filler' episode before the Hamptons fireworks next week. However, one thing that surprised me was how I... sorta...almost... liked Carole this episode when she was running the marathon. And whenever Carole talks about Anthony Radziwill, I always get a little choked up.

I always admired Rinna for doing the Depends commercial and building a QVC career for herself while keeping her family very comfortable. I personally never liked it when Kim Richards belittled Rinna for taking an honest job like she was too good for that work. What grates is when Lisa Rinna checks out of BH for an entire season but lobs sh*t at LVP every week from the safety of her couch. To be fair, in this WWHL case, LVP was the one who brought up the diapers & dusters. LVP laughed off Rinna's retort well, though, which makes me wonder if she sometimes doesn't enjoy sparring with Rinna. (And I may be reading too much into their interactions, but I feel like LVP and Erika have grown a little closer, too). Rinna throws out any old statement to besmirch somebody, and it becomes instant truth, and nobody really calls her on it. Case in point: the coke question on WWHL directed at Dorit. Dorit was pissed, and I don't blame her tbh. All that stemmed from Rinna last year and it has now become an accepted fact that Dorit must be a cokehead.

And you have just reminded me that as a recurring star AND producer of Vanderpump Rules (Bravo's most popular spinoff, with the ratings and coveted demos BH wishes it had), LVP is probably getting more $$$ than Rinna does -- all while promoting her restaurants. WWHL with the BH HWs was fun but it still retained that meanness which is turning me off. I think it should be cancelled, but I'm not sure Bravo is ready to pull the plug.

Did you catch the snippet about Rinna being on Andy's radio show saying that the new 'young' girls should take over from the 'old' ones on BH? Three guesses who she wants to get rid of. I think she truly counts herself in the young, fresh, newbie category. Gosh, I can't wait to see S9 BH and more of Rinna getting her ladyparts waxed/pushing her under-talented daughters on us! Rinna also seemed a little in that video by the resumption of the Dorit-Kyle-LVP friendship. Rinna despises LVP and it has hardened into something Brandi-esque. LVP throws her digs back but is facing a barrage of them this season. Sigh, I don't know why I even care anymore. I think they should all get pink-slipped at this point.

I guess Bravo still thinks BH is A-OK

90 min episode? You are being generous! 60 mins is more than enough, with the first half = the Berlin Zoo, and the second half = Dorit's fashion line which I trust we will never see again. OC last season was literally THE WORST, and ATL has lost its way, but BH is in its final throes. These women are bored by each other and the show. Rinna's hate-obsession with LVP mirrors Carole hiding behind more powerful friends and throwing daggers from the safety of her VTs. As usual, UnORinnaGinal stays copying other HWs' playbooks! Erika is just awful and more unpopular than Bravo cares to admit. The show's relationships have not recovered since Munchausen season. As you say, these women pander to the audience; more than that, they try to manipulate them with fakery and role-playing. Watching this alongside S2 BH (arguably its best, most organic season) is jarring. Unless Joan Collins and the ghost of Jackie Collins join next year as season regulars to confirm that, yes, LVP is indeed the lost Collins sister, then BH needs to be put out of its misery. If they want to do a Real Housewives of Brentwood with Faye Resnick and Kathryn Edwards warily finding common ground within a group of female friends, then I would watch, but I know I am in a party of 1 with that idea lol.

Wow. Dorit and Kyle look absolutely beautiful makeup-free.

I'm not sure? TT said Luke somebody so I'm guessing Luke Neslage who is credited as one of the EPs. It was AMAZING! I just caught up on it on YouTube.

omg

Tamara Tattles indicated something interesting in passing about this season's RHOA, which was that Michael Beck started out as EP but Bravo realized he was out of his depth as filming progressed. (Personally, I wonder if it wasn't Kim's first appearance at Nene's white party when she screamed "Michael! Michael!" during a fight with Kenya that changed things. The fact that she was ordering the EP around must have unsettled the other HWs who figured he was there to do Kim's bidding). Anyway, Bravo drafted in another EP to help steer the ship. However, because this season did not perform well ratings-wise (the jury is still out on Reunion ratings), looks like this other EP will take the fall for it. Beck will avoid the chop, but it remains to be seen if he will be back on RHOA where I don't think he is a good fit. I'm not sure what to make of Beck being joined at the hip with KZB, but given that Kim won't be returning, maybe Beck got a dressing-down by Bravo, too, and they are commiserating?

She needs to sue the nail technician 'doctor' who gave her and Brielle those lips. It looks like they injected cement in there and now there is an allergic reaction. It's sad that she has destroyed her looks, she was pretty in her blousy, wig-wearing way of the early seasons! Somebody already mentioned on this thread that it would be interesting if there was a HW SL about addiction to plastic surgery, to the point of having to correct bad surgery. Not that I want Kim to return to RHOA or anything, but she would be a natural for a SL like this. However, Kim is so wedded to the Barbie/Kardashian-beauty ideal that she honestly does not think she looks bad at all. She's always been delusional that way. It's too bad she doesn't have people around her who feel they can point out a mistake like this, but Kim never liked criticism, even if it was constructive.

Agreed on Gizelle. I notice that whenever Andy fawns over a HW and hypes her up, that HW usually (though not always -- see Margaret) tends to be petty, mean and quite hollow and vapid. Andy is all about the surface, as he admits. Erika is one of his faves, so is Melissa, and, astoundingly, Gizelle is another. I never understood why he is so crazy about Gizelle when all her 'reads' and VTs sound scripted and over-rehearsed. There are much more witty and compelling people on RHOP imo. Gizelle is someone who has coasted on her Vanessa Williams-esque looks but not done much else (unlike the hard-working, smart and empathetic Ms. Williams who rebuilt her acting career from the ground up when she hit her late 40s). Clearly Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley will keep coming for Karen now that Charrisse isn't there to do their dirty work. It makes me laugh at the hypocrisy considering their own situations. Ray Huger is in hot water with the IRS, and Karen is obviously trying to save face, and it is arguably the most riveting story on Potomac this season. But Karen and Ray separating their finances and tax returns was long-term smart. Robyn is trying to make the separate tax returns a shady issue, like why would you file separately when you get a modest write-off to file jointly? But Robyn is clearly v short-term in her approach to money since she is already spending Juan's paycheck before he even got it. Karen and Ray were likely advised by their financial adviser years ago to file separately -- as I myself have been advised to do in the past. The whole convo underscores just how dependent Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley are on their men to provide them with even basic living expenses. The Hugers are in financial difficulties but Karen still has some income she can call her own and not have to ask Ray for. This is AMAZING. Kandi shut her down and nailed the trap door shut just as surely as she will on ATL next week. I especially love how Kandi pointed out that Tardy is not pulling in the ratings it once did and, by implication, its future is in question. Indeed, that is the reason why Kim did S10 of ATL in the first place. Her lazy ass would never have bothered unless she felt she had to land another show before Tardy is cancelled. If Tardy gets yet another season or two, Kim can thank another predominately AA show, M2M, which helped to bring in new viewers and demos for that entire Friday evening death slot.

I made a mistake. Mama Joyce actually says "The streets have been talking" ! Like @DRW50 and @DaytimeFan I don't get the Eva hype either. She's pretty but blah to me. Nene is apparently celebrating by referring to Kim and Sheree as 'Smokey and the bandit.'

Not just a different person -- a different gender! Cheap got this great shot. She literally looks like a man whose child put make-up and a scraggly wig on him while he was sleeping. And I think Sonja is gorgeous 99.9% of the time! lol I beg to differ -- Miss Skinnygirl herself loves to hit the bottle -- it's just that she plies her co-stars with alcohol, too, so that she looks better in comparison (because Sonja and Dorinda cannot handle their booze). Exhibit A: Mexico last year. Also, the streets are sayin [(c) Mama Joyce] that Carole gets stoned. Often. Like her close friend Andy Cohen. I too sort of hope Dorinda keeps slurring and CLIPping (in a healthy, high-functioning way of course). Selfish, I know, but she's a lot of fun both sober and sauced.

Absolutely! She is showing us more than she ever has. Carole is actually vaguely relevant this season. No more watching her kittens ( or "ki--ins") rip up Lee Radziwill's mid-century couch. No more hipstery man-bun boyfriend breathing through his mouth. No more vegan-couples cookbook that no publishing house wants. She's had a face lift, fillers, chopped her hair, dyed it an awful blonde, and is trying to get in shape. She's being awful to Luann? LOL karma will get her this season. Luann is popular, and that's why Bethenny has migrated to Lu's side. I'm going to enjoy openly-villainous Carole instead of the bully's sidekick who hid behind her more powerful friends throwing daggers. As for Tinsley, there is only one reason she came back, and that is Mr. Coupon Cabin himself, Scott Kluth. The Unicorn [(c) @DaytimeFan ]. She had a good thing with this amazing guy and now it seems to have gone south. Personally, I would rather Tinsley's mother Dale (Dayyyyle) was a HW than Tinsley:

NYC! Carole being the season villain and breaking up with Bethenny is the most relevant she has been in over three years. I am going to enjoy hating on her and Tinsley. Still, having to put up with Bethenny all this time couldn't have been easy. Bethenny is a b!tch to all these women and thank god at least Ramona stands up to her. Ramona as Britney Spears (Ooops I Did It Again era) was the best costume at Dorinda's Hallowe'en party. I was horrified when I saw Sonja's talking head. WHO applied that make-up on her? Rocco? She looked like a straight man in a Marilyn Monroe costume. Seeing Luann in her Diana Ross costume was uncomfortable, although I don't think it came from a malicious place. She did look an awful lot like Rachel Dolezal, however.