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On 10/3/2018 at 2:50 AM, Paul Raven said:
Mr. Gussman's work for television included writing for some of its first soaps, including ''Search for Tomorrow'' and the television version of ''Young Doctor Malone.'' He wrote the pilot script of ''Days of Our Lives'' and gave the series its name. He once said of the title, ''The big guys loved it because it didn't mean a thing.'' He also wrote some episodes of ''Gilligan's Island,'' among other shows
well…
the original title for atwt was ‘as the earth turns,’ which irna phillips preferred, but was the title of a 1933 novel (having read the novel, irna clearly took some inspiration from the story), so the title need to be changed. among the several dozen suggestions in a document from the ivory snow group dated not too long before atwt premiered (don’t time to find the document now), was ‘days of our lives.’
so…
fwtw: i always thought ‘as the world turns sounded better than ‘as the earth turns,.
8 hours ago, Paul Raven said:Who played Dr Jim Brent on radio once Don MacLaughlin took on the Chris Hughes role on As The World Turns?
‘road to life’ ended on 30 december 1955 — four months before atwt debuted.
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13 minutes ago, JoeCool said:
Ultimately, I suppose Chase and Phillips sold their interest to Corday, making Corday Productions the "sole owner of the intellectual property", but Screen Gems/Columbia Pictures/SONY will be the distributor of the property for as long as the property exists.
when i last spoke with irna’s son, tom, two years ago, he said that he was still receiving royalties from days…
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3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:
Maybe there was some trepidation at TGL when they moved to TV but CBS already had two successful soaps underway with SFT and LOL and they were probably happy to be chosen to be part of a new medium that was taking off.
what actually happened was that shortly after sft and lol premiered, irna approached pgp about moving tgl to television. according to her unfinished memoir, ‘all my worlds,’ head of pgp production, william craig rejected her idea, saying that only a serial created for television would succeed.
so irna and ted corday adapted two tgl scripts, and irna paid for the pilot out of her own pocket. the fact that the show would be available on both radio and television was a big part of why pgp agreed.
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38 minutes ago, dragonflies said:
Someone made the point imagine how people associated with GL felt when it moved from Radio to TV. I bet that was scary at the time
except that when gl expanded to television in 1952, it continued on radio until 1956 to give people time — 4 years, not 4 weeks! — to adjust.
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18 minutes ago, TVFAN1144 said:1 hour ago, AMCOLTLLover said:
watched a few 1996 episodes I found. I remember now which character I hated so much when I was a young lad. My mom watched Atwt and I watched some episodes with her.
everytime mister ponytail and his corny ass dialogue appeared on screen with that dark hair chick I really got angry. I hated their scenes and love story lol
In 2009 I finally figured out their names: Mark and Connor. I tried to watch 2 episodes of 1996 with them in it and I still hate them! I will never stop hating them. The dialogue and acting of them is the cringiest I’ve ever seen on soapland. And people are going to tell me 1990-92 was bad? I’ll take that period over Mark Kasnoff and Connor without a doubt
Not the best time for the show. And they had the gull to shove Conner and Mark down our throats on the 40th anniversary show
i was on the set that day, which was gross enough. but then i heard from a reliable source they had planned to show mark’s bare butt. don’t know if they shot it, but thankfully, it didn’t make on screen.
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55 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
As for CBS...I still am upset they gave BB ATWT timeslot. It totally ruined the ratings for ATWT and GL till the end of the 80s
true enough — i always forget about that when i discuss the factors that led to atwt’s demise.
but, i was told (by a cbs programming exec) that the bell’s insisted that b&b run after y&r. and given the success of y&r, it’s not hard to understand why cbs agreed.
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On 7/3/2022 at 6:50 PM, slick jones said:
Posted by a group member of my FB page
Author Tom Lisanti has announced
"I am happy to report that the book I have been working on for over 5 years, Ryan's Hope Revisited: An Oral History, is completed and will be available in the second half of 2023 from a publisher to be named shortly. This tribute book to the beloved soap is a collection of memories and stories from actors, including original cast members Helen Gallagher, Malcolm Groome, Ron Hale, Ilene Kristen, Michael Levin, and Jadrien Steele, and later cast members such as Jason "Ash" Adams, Rose Alaio, Jose Aleman, Ana Alicia, MacKenzie Allen, Richard Backus, John Blazo, Roscoe Born, Fred Burstein, Michael Corbett, Christopher Durham, Randall Edwards, Ann Gillespie, Catherine Hicks, Trent Jones, Kelli Maroney, Malachy McCourt, Brian McGovern, Ariana Munker, Geoff Pierson, Gerit Quealy, Lois Robbins, Andrew Robinson, Louise Shaffer, Gordon Thomson, Cali Timmins, and James Wlcek; producer Joe Hardy; writers including Millee Taggart and Tom King; crew members; and co-creator Paul Mayer’s daughters, Rachael and Ruth Mayer. Brutally honest, they share the good, the bad, and the outrageous with regard to what went into producing this half-hour soap five days a week for thirteen years. They also remark on other soaps (including All My Children, Another Life, Another World, Bare Essence, Beverly Hills, 90210, The City, Capitol, The Doctors, Dynasty, For Richer, For Poorer/Lovers and Friends, Guiding Light, Loving, One Life to Live, and Search for Tomorrow) that they came from or went to after their departure from Ryan's Hope. Connecting their observations and anecdotes are plot synopses; tales of ABC-TV interference; the General Hospital influence; Emmy Award wins, ratings, and reviews from the time; and why the soap's most hated villain was Agnes Nixon. Illustrated with many never before published behind-the-scenes photos from the private collections of some of the interviewees."
looking forward to this.
very curious why kate mulgrew, mary munisteri, and claire labine’s kids weren’t included.
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On 7/3/2022 at 7:38 PM, Paul Raven said:On 7/3/2022 at 3:42 PM, Dion said:
Luke actually arrived in November 1978 but other than that your point still stands. He arrived nearly a year after Monty and didn't become a lead until the fall of 79.
Thanks for the correction. Don't want to be guilty of the very thing I am objecting to !
be that as it may, the point being made is that what led to gloria monty, luke, laura, scotty was the fact that ‘general hospital’ was losing its time — badly, 8.6 vs 7— to ‘another world.’
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6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:
Fred Silverman, now ABC's president, hired Gloria Monty and gave her 13 weeks to turn things around or he would cancel GH. Monty came on board, hired Anthony Geary as Luke Spencer, and paired him with Genie Francis's Laura.
Reading that you would think that Luke arrived in that 13 week period in early 78 and caused a rise in the ratings, when in fact it was Scotty/Laura and other stories that revived GH. Luke didn't arrive until 79.
true enough, but the point was that the fact that aw trouncing gh in the ratings was what they call in film ‘the inciting event.’
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re aw creation: i believe that eddie drueding wrote that piece; liccardo and levine are quoted as sources.
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while not widely seen, one of philip baker hall’s best performances was as a man descending into dementia, opposite the always exquisite lois smith in ‘ruth and erica.
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surprised that no one’s mentioned kate mulgrew. my understanding was that claire labine wasn’t planning to have mary ryan become pregnant so soon after marrying jack, but wrote it in when kate became pregnant, leading to a protracted, and beautifully wrought, conflict between jack and mary.
finding out years later that mulgrew had given up her daughter for adoption, then immediately had to play the mother of a newborn still gives me the shivers.
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this preliminary obit in the ny times mentions his role on ‘another world,’ as do several of the comments.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/26/movies/ray-liotta-dead.html
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this is the link i though i embedded.
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found it with bl’s help. 9 june 1994. thanks. after ed comes into ross’s room, ross takes off his briefs (or boxers) and talks about how as a bachelor, he can walk around the house naked whenever he wants. and watch how much peter simon is able to convey without saying a word.
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sad, sad news.
the morning of blake and ross’s wedding in 1994, ross and ed had a conversation — just a conversation between two old friends talking about their years of history — that i remember to this day, more than 25 years later . i cannot find it anywhere online.
i’ve always suspected that it was part of the reel he submitted for his first emmy, in 1995. i remember reading somewhere that liz kiefer put together his reels.
if anyone knows where it is, please post.
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4 hours ago, Tonksadora said:
I'm hung up because I can't find the HWs for Y&R for 1973-1981. Everywhere I've looked so far has been missing data, which really surprised me.
ahh — that would be bill bell.
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just saw this: tamara tunie’’s in london playing kamala harris in a new play, 47th.
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i was privileged (and lucky) to meet her twice — at the paley center event in 2010, and in 1996, when i was on the set covering the 40th anniversary episode.
we finished the interview. but a bit later, she tracked me down to make sure she had told me about the huge crush she had on don mclaughlin when she join the show, as indeed she had.
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just sat this: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bobby-rydell-teen-idol-dead-at-79_n_624cbae2e4b068157f7d6482
the music i grew up with — you can do the math.
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16 hours ago, Khan said:
From what I've heard, Marland's original plan was for Kelly to end up with Nola, but when the whole storyline with her and Quint took off, he changed his mind.
in 1996, i looked through marland’s original longterm and can confirm that his original plan was for kelly and nola to end up together.
i loved the idea and always wondered why the change — thought it might have come from p&g or cbs since nola was not the typical soap ingenue.
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not quite. while their names are similar, gina belafonte is an actor (and the daughter of harry belafonte.
ginia bellafante is a journalist and critic at the ny times (and time magazine before that).
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nice piece in today’s ny times remembering mary ryan munisteri:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/nyregion/ryans-hope-soap-opera.html
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
in DTS: Cancelled Soaps
Posted · Edited by wonderwoman1951
to put the pre 1979 wiping of tapes in perspective:
about 10 years ago, i came across this 1957 episode on youtube,
atwt 10 april 1957
which i sent to laurie caso. he told me that he had never seen it, and that there were only about a dozen early episodes the show could access. so while pgp wiped thousands of early episodes, who knows how many were slipped into briefcases, and now, thankfully, onto youtube.
also — i’m sure the same thing happened at gl, yet there’s been no discussion on the gl board. not sure what to make of that.