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I bet you anything it's for the new season of Chef Roble and Co. His show features these sort of events in each episode. You mean Kathy, the honest, geniune, loving housewife that was about the only warm thing about the last 3 seasons of NJ?

Kathy is the lovely, beautiful, kind, sweet, and matronly cousin of Teresa. She was the only grounded one in the bunch who wasn't a famewhore and was as real as you could get. Plus her desserts are legit and Teresa wishes she had half the talent of Kathy.

I didn't even notice that Kristen was missing!!! LOL - how terrible. I do remember Aviva being in there. I think it's crazy - Aviva is back in last night's episode and basically claims that she's ready to take a break from hanging out with these girls... bitch, you haven't even really been involved this season anyway, and you still need another break???

I don't know, that short segment with Luann and Jacques taking pictures in the park was pretty telling... he was bitching the entire time and she was totally over it and forcing a smile. On WWHL, it's interesting that the poll question asked which NYC housewife has the best style... and Luann was one of the options, basically calling her a housewife.

Haven't heard much about the new girl since Adrienne, Camille, and now Lisa are rumored to be on... I wonder if she got the axe up front or if she's still continuing and we just aren't hearing much about it...

I think something needs to happen bc this group doesn't really jive well anymore... BUT I must say I still love Quad, Mariah, and Simone separately. They all crack my [!@#$%^&*] up. Heavenly does too - especially when she's shading Toya. Toya is one thirsty wannabe - it's cringeworthy! Lisa can go - boring. Jackie - I like her - she can stay as the 'mom' of the group I suppose, but I guess I could take her or leave her.

To be an official friend of the housewives, I'm guessing Danielle really gives us something late in the season, which obviously pisses off Tamra. I'm guessing she didn't give enough in the beginning to really be showcased. The only thing we've seen of her was when she hosted a Christmas party and otherwise she's said nothing... when in a group, they don't even show her saying a word. At least Fernanda got scenes home alone, or one-on-ones with Tamra.

I'm excited to have Adrienne and Camille back... something needed to happen on BH. Why is the Maloof Hoof hiding her hooves? Those pants are not cute.

Lydia's mom and Shannon would have been hilarious!!! Lost opportunity. Well, perhaps they'll be back next season. Yolanda's hair is gorgeous, BUT... why in the hell is she wearing a sweater and jeans in her confessional? This is Beverly Hills - glam it up a bit!!!

That's so funny, I was thinking this last night while watching NYC... this was a boring trip, but it comes nowhere as close to NJ's Arizona trip. That trip was TERRIBLE. I continue to love Shannon, although I will say, I wish she wouldn't have been SO sensitive while on vacation. You could tell Vicki was annoyed by it a little, but good for her to still be supportive. I think Shannon's husband is strangely attractive as hell... I don't love his voice, nor his streak of white hair, but something about him is dead sexy. Lizzie continues to still be a non-factor. She's less integrated and involved than Lydia was... Heather's personal chef wasn't too impressive - I can make that [!@#$%^&*]. I can't get over how bad Tamra looks this year in her talking heads - there is one in particular where her eyes look odd - she's in blue.

Someone posted a link to a story about Nene - see page before

Looks like Nene is pulling a Kim and not shooting with the other girls and is over it all... if you don't work, you shouldn't get paid boo!

Also --- Heather never answered Shannon's question... Why was Heather spreading gossip about Shannon to other random ladies? She was totally wrong for that and Shannon just wanted to understand who out there knows so she could manage the situation. I don't mind Heather, and most times I like her even though I do think she's condescending, but she was totally wrong on this one. She had every right to kick Shannon out of her home, but Shannon only got upset because Heather wasn't listening to her and not answering her questions.

Did y'all notice that Aviva was once again dropped from the opening? I'm glad she's not getting paid (or so it seems) for these vacation episodes, but really she should have been a Friend if she's not willing to participate. How is Shannon from the OC not authentic? She's probably the most natural newbie we've ever had - the cameras don't faze her - she isn't creating fake drama (Tamra) - she isn't hiding anything from the cameras (most of them) - she's open, honest and real. She isn't hawking product or businesses. It's completely refreshing. Also she's super entertaining because she's naturally a bit crazy.

The Kristen/Heather bickering was so tedious to watch - I sadly didn't enjoy that. I think this Montana trip is a bust - I'm with Ramona - boring! I am on Team Luann with the facialist story. Shannon on the OC continues to be a big win for me... she's so authentic and is literally carrying this season. This episode all revolved around her. Without Shannon, we'd have nothing. I love Shannon!

Given Aviva's antics already this season, I can totally see her walking into a room, unhooking her leg, and throwing it at Kristen or Carole. And I would love it. If her episode count is true, I just don't understand why she was made housewife over Luann. They've had 7 successfully before, why not again this season?

I caught up on OC and WWHL - still LOVE Shannon. She was great on WWHL too. Even Andy mentioned several times that he likes her and that she's been a great addition because she's a great housewife. She's just so natural and real. A bit crazy? Yes, but I love it. Lizzy just seems to be...there. I don't know, I know she had a few scenes alone with her family, but I still don't feel like I know her or she gels with this group yet. She's not really in anyone's drama or doing anything, unlike Shannon. I like her, but she's just not standing out for me right now.

They delayed Joe's sentencing date from July 8 to late September to allow the family to mourn. I wonder how this will impact the reunion now! (that's terrible, I know)

I was going to say - my DVR didn't even record NYC this week! I got People's Couch or whatever instead... so I had to manually set a repeat viewing later in the week so I could catch it. Why would Bravo do that? I bet that's the reason for the lower ratings this week.

Chris B - YES. I agree about Shannon... I love her and she is one of the most real, natural, and interesting housewives they've had in a long time. I just read online that Joe Guidice's dad just died - he was working in the garden and just collapsed and died.

If you think about it, Luann missing the first 2-3 episodes doesn't really matter in terms of whether she was intended to be a housewife or just a friend --- they've introduced new housewives after 2-3 episodes (i.e. Alexis and Lizzy from OC) --- plus Avivia is a housewife this season even though she was cut out of the opening for 3-4 episodes right in the middle. I think Bravo waits until the end, after editing, to determine who gets to be housewife vs. friend vs. cut out altogether. Remember Fernanda from the OC? She was filmed as a housewife the entire season, with her very own storylines (i.e. becoming a citizen) and even had promo shots with the other ladies, but was dropped last minute to just a friend. I think Luann is just a friend because the only non-group storyline she had was her relationship with Jacques (her kids are so angsty, dare I say a mess, and hate to be filmed as teenagers)... and her relationship with Jacques was so last season (that's all she had last season), and with them breaking up, which probably wasn't filmed... they just decided to make her a friend and cut out all her non-group scenes. She's never featured outside of group settings. Marysol from Miami was very similar in that we saw her every episode and was filmed in most group scenes, however her solo storyline really wasn't there unless you include scenes with Mama Elsa. So Marysol is even more of a mystery I guess as to why she wasn't a full housewife...

So funny how we all differ sometimes.. I LOVE Shannon - her crazy ass is making OC for me this year.

I think Vicki and Tamra just want Heather to have fun and let her hair down. Heather is always 'ON' and Tamra/Vicki just want to see her be 'OFF' for a fun night... doesn't mean she has to go wild and cheat on her husband, strip on a pole, or anything... but just take a shot and let loose a bit. I'm on Tamra/Vicki's side when it comes to this.. Heather doesn't know how to have fun with her girlfriends, which I understand she has kids and wants to maintain an image, but good God she's always a stick in the mud. She is witty though, so I don't dislike her totally.

I loved Kathy too - I'm on her side! I really enjoyed Ladies of London. I love the dynamic of mixing the Americans with the Brits... and Americans having a very hard time being accepted by British elite. I've been to London so many times and I just adore that city, so this show is really close to my heart. British tabloids and the press are soooo shady and fierce when it comes to their reporting - it's amazing.

I'll totally watch Hotwives of Orlando - that's hilarious! Btw, speaking of Beverly Hills - there's an article out confirming Carlton and Joyce are fired. Joyce even indicated that she may be moving away from BH anyway. Also, they are saying that Shiva Safai and Faye Resnick are joining, assuming they sign their contracts and are happy with the $$. http://www.mstarz.com/articles/31061/20140525/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-fires-two-housewives-and-adds-faye-resnick-and-shiva-safai-to-cast.htm