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I like Cain, but it's a little bit ridiculous the amount of stuff he's gotten away with. However, I find his spawn Debi to be far far worse. Debi's list of victim's is longer. Everyone she screws dies or in poor old Andy's case has to leave town indefinitely. She may not pull the trigger, so to speak, but she causes them all to go mad. I still blame her, in part, for Gennie dying.
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I don't think that so many UK soaps were as focused on star-crossed lovers like US or Aussie soaps. But, I do think they used to do a better job of balancing out the dark gritty stuff with the more light hearted/comedic stuff. And I always felt like the UK soaps were much better about keeping couples together for several years before breaking them up. I like many of the darker and gritter storylines. But, I need them to be balanced out, and I get tired of seeing certain characters rotate through partners the way that they do (David and Debi are prime examples).
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I've never minded the Dingles. Well I like Chas and Cain, and Marlon doesn't annoy me too much. The rest of them I could do without. I agree though that there is a general over emphasis on their stories at the expense of other character's stories. To me the two most compelling stories on the show right now are the aftermath of Vic's rape and then the grooming stuff with Jacob and Maya. However, they are both dark stories, and I feel like the show really needs something happier to balance those out. And killing off Lisa and having episode after episode of Dingles crying about her death (when let's be fair outside of Belle, I didn't think majority of them gave a toss about Lisa when she was alive). And outside of Chas & Paddy and their pregnancy, everything else seems pretty depressing. And if I wanted to watch something endlessly depressing I'll watch Eastenders instead.
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Most soaps today are so terrified of losing viewers that they won't dare do anything contemporary. Plus a good story needs to be well paced, and that is something that all four of the remaining shows struggle with. I mean Emmerdale in the UK has a storyline about a teacher who groomed and abused one of her students and then a date rape story that has resulted in a pregnancy (and a rape that at least at this point isn't being used as a catalyst for a romantic pairing). I don't believe there is one US soap that has the guts or ability to tell those type of stories anymore.
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I think that role was pretty close to impossible to recast. But, I do agree finding a decent actress who had great chemistry with Frank Dicopoulos or even Rick Hearst would have helped. The problem with the recast wasn't necessarily that she was a bad actress, she seemed fine, she just lack chemistry with her co-stars and was kind of bland. And at least for me, I'll take an average or even mediocre actor that can generate good chemistry and has some spark on screen over better actors who can't do that. I get over a crappy performance from time-to-time, I can't get over being boring. I think that is why Marcy Walker's Tangie always fell so flat to me. She was so bland and lacked chemistry with pretty much everyone, even though I though MW was a good actress.
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David and Gilly Grant were fantastic characters, and Monti Sharp had so much chemistry with everyone. I'm a little surprised that he didn't end up on another soap because he was such a great soap actor. He was a good actor in general, but not all good actors are good soap actors. The casting in the early 90's especially for the under 30 crowd was pretty terrific. Monti Sharp, Melissa Hayden, Nia Long, Rick Hearst, Melina Kanakarede, etc. Even Jocelyn Seagraves and Morgan Englund, who I thought were weaker actors, generally had good chemistry with their fellow actors, and worked well on the canvas. I think the fact that GL had such a long string of great casting made the rotating Hart's stick out more. I never understood why they recast Eleni. They should have killed off that character when Melina Kanakarede left. Because the writers clearly had no real interest in the character once MK left.
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I really liked Vivian as well. I think she, like many characters in 1996, were a victim of the rotating writers and change in executive producers. It stunk because I thought she was complicated, and while i think she was judgmental and at times pretty horrible, I understood why she was the way that she was. But, then 1996 was a mess in general. And the execution of stories was subpar at best.
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I tend to forget about Marland's contribution to the Lewis's. Although I also don't think Marland was just like most HW. He had his own pets and created a bunch of new characters. It's just that generally I tended to like his new characters. Mostly, because I felt like under Long's first tenure that it GL was becoming like Texas in Springfield.
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I haven't seen much of the mid-80's and so I can't comment on that, but 87 & 88 were terrible. And I wasn't a huge fan of Long. because she introduced not only Reva, but also Harley. And l hated Harley. However, she also introduced the Lewis family, and I thought they were a massive airtime suck. The best part of the Reva free years was that the airtime wealth was spread more evenly. But, mostly she was responsible for Harley. To be fair, I tolerated Harley during her first run (and I even liked Mallet with her), but her second run made me want to punch her daily.
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Reva got it the worst of any of the characters. I suspect mostly because the writers were doing anything possible to keep her on the frontburner, even if they didn't have any decent ideas for her at the time. Although I also think that during the late 90's and early 00's that actors demanding to be kept on the frontburner seemed more of a thing. I rewatched a few of the episodes from the second half of 1994, and I had forgotten how stupid some of those storylines were. Alan-Michael spending a couple months crawling around on the beach. Alan doing a horrible Japanese accent. Etc.
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I think Annie is a great example of how far the show had fallen in the writing department from the early 90's to the mid-to-late 90's. Annie ended up becoming a cartoon. She was entertaining after Reva showed up alive, but, she was entertaining because CW made crap out of gold, not because she was a well written character (which I think bodes well for her as Nina on GH, given that GH is terribly written), especially after her intervention.
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