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Cheap, the woman Mario cheated with had the abortion during filming. That's when the story first broke. I think what broke after filming was that they separated.

None of the reports said Nene was fired, they said she was being offered less money and the option of being a Friend. I still think that is true. Nene hasn't had a storyline in ages and her paycheck is HUGE. Throw in everything else and obviously they're going to want to give her a pay cut.

I think New Jersey will be watchable, but unlike other series it fails because it only wants to showcase that Italian lifestyle side of New Jersey and I think that limits the show too much. Look at the variety of wives on OC for example. NJ narrows the pool for potential housewives too much and as a result you get what we got in that season preview. New Jersey is a diverse state and if they opened it up I'm sure they could get some epic new housewives in the mix.

BUT IT WORKED! People ate that shyt up on social media and in this thread! It really makes me question how stupid my people are getting that they're out here championing this idiot. The whole thing is NUTS. First Phaedra insults her more than anybody this season yet this isn't even mentioned. Hell, her biggest fight was with Nene, her second closest champion. How did this trick go from even Nene saying she was probably getting fired to being offered ANY kind of contract for next season? It's ridiculous.

The situations are different. I don't think her problems last season merited the type of reaction she has given this year. Amanda threatened to deck her, which is why she got in that girls face. And she didn't curse Sonja out because we all know that Sonja is delusional and probably mildly retarded. I thought she was very firm with Sonja's ungrateful ass and I don't think she backed down with Ramona either. It was just a different situation. I totally believe the Heather we see now is the real Heather having gotten to know these ladies.

I always loved them all, but re-watching it, it's crazy how one-sided it was with Nene attacking everyone, yet Kim is the one who got the bad press. If you look at their relationship breaking up in season one and two, it's Nene's fault both times by either being a bad friend or attacking Kim. Then when Kandi appeared Nene instantly disliked her and spent the entire season throwing shade at Kandi and she was downright insulting in each of their meetings, especially when Kandi decided to be friends with Kim. It was pure jealousy. This reminds me a lot of Kenya/Porsha where Porsha is clearly in the wrong yet people make excuses for her.

My guess is that her earlier denials were because she isn't in Atlanta and didn't know what they were offering. Now that she knows she is naturally pissed. Honestly, even if Nene didn't have as bad a season Bravo would've wanted to cut her pay simply due to how large it was getting due to her tenure. My guess is that if Nene had a GREAT season and was still a Bravo Team Player, they would've fired Cynthia and Phaedra to cover the costs of maintaining Nene's paycheck, but since she messed up they don't have to do that and will be able to afford everybody's salaries. Where Nene messed up is doing so many interviews talking about how crappy the pay is at Bravo and then writing so many negative blogs blaming production. In the end I think Nene WILL appear, either as a full-housewife still making good (but less) money or as a Friend and if she goes that route she'll pull a LuAnn and say it was her choice so she could focus on other projects and less of these "hating women."

I don't know how I feel about those NEW Jersey wives, but I'll be tuning in to give them a chance. At least I have Teresa and Dina. I am a little surprised they allowed the new housewife to be called Teresa and didn't call her "Terry" or something like that. I wonder if anyone will the the gossip mixed up between the two Teresa's.

I liked that the preview shows so much new footage considering there is still so much left from the OTHER trailer that we haven't seen. It's going to be a jam packed season for OC.

Ryan is one of the worst looking men on any of these shows, but I do think OC has some good looking men. I'd say right now that all the husbands sans Brooks are good looking. Even Danielle's gay husband is cute.

I loved that scene of Peter and Kenya kiki-ing on Secrets Revealed. I love Kenya when she's being lighthearted and throwing shade. They had good chemistry in that scene. Peter deserves his peach.

What I hate more than anything is how Porsha repeatedly implied that Kordell was gay and she was given a pass by EVERYONE on that. When Kenya rightly accused her of doing just what she did, they tried to act like she was lying or like she came up with it. It's BS. I don't understand why Andy didn't call Porsha out on that because by implying it, it was like she was implying it in a negative way as well.

I too don't think Andy was uninterested, but caught off guard with how well Kenya defended herself. Especially when she called HIM out. You could tell that completely shocked him, but you couldn't really deny or dispute anything she was saying. He definitely seemed to go into it with questions that favored the current social media sentiment, but logic couldn't sustain that. If you try to justify Porsha's reaction based on being "bullied" or "provoked" then every woman on this show was bullied and provoked. It wasn't even a serious or heated conversation before Porsha went off. The reactions honestly just make the anti-Kenya people look dumb and irrational.

Lies. She owns her house in LA, to my knowledge we don't know that she's been evicted (it was proven the ATL eviction was malicious and that she was in good standing) or had any cars repoed and overall I'd say she's been shown to live within her means. We don't see her with endless Louboutin's or calling off labels. I know people don't want to give her credit, but to get to the point where she was producing films she had to be making good money as an actress. I'm not saying she's rich, but she's worked steadily and it looks like she's played her cards right, financially. I think she's done well on this show. I'm sure she's making more than we think, I'd predicted around 250,000-300,000 for her second season and MUCH more next year. She also has Celebrity Apprentice, international club bookings, a sitcom in the works for TVOne and the fitness video. I think she's doing well enough.

I fail to see what having a man has to do with a persons self worth. I find it sad that people feel you have to be in a relationship or you're lesser. When it happens it will happen. I'd rather be single than be in a toxic relationship, which many of these women have.

Tamara Tattles tweeted that she hasn't heard anything either way about Sheree, but Marlo is a possibility for next season.

I think the center peach is more about who looks best in that position more than anything.

If that's how you feel, BYE! I personally am a fan of the show and I won't stop watching until it's over and done with. I LOVE Nene just like I love these other fools, but her leaving won't stop me from watching.

I absolutely feel they're playing hardball with Nene. The show eventually will have to deal with life after Nene and she gave them so many reasons to want to get rid of her. Not just lack of story, but the way she's been attacking producers the entire season and most importantly--she's pulling a Jill Zarin. She's affecting the production of the show by manipulating things to get people not to film with others, it was revealed at the reunion her pre-planned attacks, she's not getting along with Andy and she's coming off poorly. They have tons of justification for not paying her an extremely large salary just for her to constantly bash the show, her salary and the producers. If this is true they still have a solid foursome with Kandi, Kenya, Cynthia and Phaedra (who I feel will stay). I'd say get Marlo and Sheree to make it six and cast one new wife and you're set. It would still be familiar, but refreshed and I have no doubt that Nene will accept the gig as a "Friend" and will still be there. ETA: I was thinking of Sheree and according to SFTA.com, she was making 400,000 when she left and she's asked for 200,000 to return. Considering her tenure and big personality I think that is fair. If it's true that Bravo is trying to negotiate that down then they are dogs. Especially when you have people like Phaedra making over 600,000, you can let Sheree build her funds up when you know she's going to give you everything you need.

Believe what you want, I tend to believe Tamara Tattles based on her track record, including being the only one who correctly reported what happened at the reunion. With that said... Nene Leakes And Porsha Williams Will Not Hold a Peach Next Season I could see this being true. The past two seasons Nene has not had a storyline and her behavior at the reunion was pretty bad. Now that she's including Andy in her insults, why would he want to justify a huge contract for her to dictate everything that goes on? Not only that, but he re-tweeted someone who was talking about how Nene keeps bad-mouthing her Bravo paycheck and Andy responded that she shouldn't be discussing that. Another scenario is that this is a negotiation tactic to make Nene take a pay cut. What do yall think?

I'm sure Tamra will mention it once they fall out.

I loooooved The Street. I was so sad it didn't work out.

I would've suffered without the AC, but my big ass would've been miserable. I would try my best not to show it, but i can't see how I would be able to be indoors. I'd probably walk around in a tiny swimsuit the entire time.

Carole's Beverly Hills house is GORGEOUS! I'd honestly put it in the Top 3 if we include the RHOBH homes. I don't care about size, THAT house was damn gorgeous. I love everything about Carole. They need to force her to move to BH for a few months and be a Friend of the Housewives on RHOBH. ETA: I FINISHED RHONY AND IT WAS LEGENDARY!! This season, despite the ratings, is one of the all-time best RH seasons of all time. It's very nuanced, which you don't usually get on reality tv. I love the tension and reactions from Sonja's "brand" and Ramona's breakdown has been great to watch. What happen to those lies the cast was saying about Ramona being the "voice of reason" this season? That is a damn die. I LOVE her jealousy of Kristen and their sparring. I loved when she threw the wine in her face and then tried to get her with the orr. I know it might be hypocritical since I denounced Porsha for this, but I don't mind violence on these shows. I think Porsha's reasoning and justification and subsequent fan support is what I didn't like. With Ramona she is NUTS and I love it! Every scene with her and Kristen has been enjoyable, the only downfall is that Kristen doesn't seem to have the verbal ability to defend herself against Ramona. If she can't cuss her out real good then she needs to knock her ass out. On the subject of Aviva, I find this super odd and I still hate that LuAnn isn't a real housewive. I think it just looks bad considering she's an original cast member and has been demoted, yet she appears as much as everyone else. It just would look better to have 2 original housewives in the opening, especially after their unsuccessful overhaul last season. Oh I forgot about Aviva lol! Well I didn't miss her ass at all. I don't look forward to her returning either. I just want them to dig into her once more and pop that leg off, then she can kick rocks. I LOVED the Birkshires. I hate being hot, but I would've suffered and been polite. Heather's house was BEAUTIFUL and I loved the scenery. I wish I were lucky enough to canoe in that pond. It was a different type of vacation, but it definitely works. I wonder if they'll stay in Birshires for 3 episodes or will they immediately jump into the Montana vacation. I feel like we really don't know what's gonna happen. So much has aired from the season trailer and they have like 10 episodes to go.

She will flip you over the couch. I'll never forget that. She is the only one to shut Wig down. Even Nene couldn't shut Wig down because Wig knew too much and wasn't scared of her big sour ass.