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AMCHistory

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  1. See, I loved her with Adam and Dimitri! Especially her back and forth with David Canary, she showed that she still had claws. I hated that both pairings were sidelined for Trevor.

    She also had two runs with Jeremy, once when she came on, and another in the early 90's before being thrown into Trevor's orbit.

    Her marriage with Palmer was also a pretty popular pairing as I recall. She was like a caged bird in a gilden cage.

  2. I guess this was done when the Dobsons came back.

    I guess Warren drastically changed his look before the show ended. I don't like him, especially after reading that he dumped Lionel like yesterday's garbage.

    ....and of course JW's run at Santa Barbara was part of his abandonment of Kristina Wagner and their marriage the first time. It was clearly not a good time for Wagner professionally or personally:

    Pals blame his womanizing

    THE rocky seven-year marriage between Melrose Place hunk Jack Wagner and his wife Kristina came to a crashing end when she slapped her hubby with divorce papers.

    And the only thing that has shocked pals is that Kristina put up with his roving eye for as long as she did.

    The split is no surprise to those who know Jack. He simply can't keep his eyes on his wife. "It's as if he has a sexual compulsion and will never change."

    Wagner met his wife when they starred together as General Hospital super-couple Frisco and Felicia, but didn't become involved until Kristina's marriage to Robert Malandro fell apart in the late '80s.

    Even as the duo became romantically entwined, insiders say Wagner, 41, shamelessly chased other women.

    In the notorious book You'll Never Make Love in this Town Again, former Hollywood party girl Liza Greer writes about a torrid sexual encounter with Jack while he was dating Kristina.

    Despite the book's allegations, the couple stayed together and in 1990, Kristina gave birth to their son Peter. Six months later, Jack left the ABC soap — and his wife and child, moving out of their Bel Air home, sources say.

    "I was alone," Kristina recently recalled. "It was me and baby Petey."

    The pretty actress was so heartbroken, she took a six-month medical leave of absence from her ABC daytime drama.

    Meanwhile, ladies man Jack worked on the soap Santa Barbara and was linked to two co-stars, Nina Arvesen and Paula Irvine.

    Despite his gallivanting, he and Kristina reconciled. They tied the knot in Lake Tahoe in 1993 and a year later, a second son, Harrison, was born.

    He developed another passion that teed Kristina off — golf!

    "He travels all over the country to take part in tournaments, leaving his family behind," says another source.

    Finally, citing irreconcilable differences, Kristina filed for divorce in Los Angeles Superior Court, insiders reveal.

    "Kristina," say the source, "has simply had enough!"

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    If that was the reasoning behind their decision, then this is yet another example of a fan base dictating casting and story decisions with awful results.

    I know that this was a well recorded incident. I believe Kate left on maternity leave and the Producers came up with this idea. Based on the collected mail, it was decided who would stay and who would go. James and Kate were forced to work together in the next weeks in some of the most passionate Natalie/Trevor moments with the conclusion of the Carter Jones story, ending with Trevor rescuing Natalie from a fire in their home.

    I do not know why people were so enamored by Kiberd and Trevor. He was getting billing as top star of AMC with much press and screentime. Then, as soon as Collins was gone and the Natalie recast fizzled, it was clear that Kiberd was not leading man material. Kiberd had contributed to his undoing as Trevor would not have a successful romance or popular front burner storyline. His hubris had been his own undoing with AMC as he would not have as popular a screen partner, man or woman, since Collins.

    I wonder if the animosity was ongoing as Kiberd and Collins never shared 1-on-1 scenes in any of Collin's returns as Natalie.

    Unlike Kiberd, Natalie had multiple popular pairings and floated through the canvas seamlessly. She started out as the spoiler in the Jeremy/Erica romance, then phased through the Cortlandt, Marick, and Chandler family storylines. To me, Collin's equity to the show was clear.

  4. Ever since finishing Harding Lemay's book, I have really wanted to get into Another World. It is hard to find a starting point. I was wondering, did Jamie Frame and Dennis Carrington keep their close friendship over the years. I hate it when Soaps loose out on building on childhood relationships as young characters are SORASD at different rates.

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    It made me sad to see Kate during her last few returns to AMC. She really was so stunning in the 80s as Natalie. I realize that Janet was heavier than Natalie had been, but Kate just looked SO different. It was hard to believe that was the same woman.

    I just didn't see anything appealing in Trevor. Sure, every soap occasionally needs an odd and quirky character, but I found it hard to believe Natalie would go from men like Adam and Alex and Jeremy to Trevor. Dimitri definitely seemed her "type" - rich, powerful, domineering, handsome. I didn't think she had great chemistry with Michael Nader though. Susan Lucci and Finola Hughes were definitely his best pairings.

    It would have been interesting to see the sophisticated cool blonde Natalie (the one before Trevor got his hands on her) with someone like Jack, and given how much Erica and Natalie disliked each other, Natalie with Jack could have been fun. If they hadn't killed her off, Natalie with Caleb Cortlandt could have been intriguing as well.

    Ooo.... I love the idea of Natalie and Jackson. They had a mild flirtation when he represented her in her divorce from Palmer, and she was a bit down and out loosing any claim to the Hunter Estate and Palmer being less than generous his their settlement. Natalie was ready to start a humble life, when she began to rekindle her flame with Jeremy. Through it all, they did give significant airtime to a growing friendship with Jackson.

    Despite the fact that Kate had put on some weight, she was still very much beautiful. The show did the most they could to make her look frumpy and almost unrecognizable. Here is a picture from the People special edition hardcover book. You can see that with a little makeup and comb through the hair, Ms. Collins was still a beautiful woman:

    KateCollins2.jpg

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    I loved Natalie during the saga with Jeremy. I thought Kate Collins did the vapid, selfish blonde thing very well. Once Natalie was paired with Trevor, I lost interest in her. I liked Janet, especially when she was being crazy in a humorous way - but I found it hard to believe that both women were THAT into Trevor Dillon. Uncle Porkchop just didn't seem all that appealing to me.

    That is when I fell in love with Kate Collins, in all her 80's entitled beauty. I think people did not realize how "odd-looking" Kate was for daytime. She was much taller than the other ladies on the show, full-figured and curvey. Her face was so stark, with sharp features and beautiful eyes. I still think she was one of the most beautiful women on TV. Here are some photos from that time. I love the red outfit, but her hair is fabulous in the purple:

    NatA.jpgNatB.jpg

    I would have loved for Kate to stick around. Frankly, she had so much more storyline potential than Kiberd ever did. I could see her eventually finding her way back to Dimitri, maybe even pit-stopping with a romance with Edmund along the way.

    When they did "dress" Janet up in Kate's 2006 run, you could see the beauty was still there. There was a seen with Janet and Erica at the docks where Kate acted very Natalie-like mannerisms wise.

  7. OMG Yes, would've loved it if the cameras were on her when they broke (no pun intended!) the news to her. My TiVo randomly recorded their recent re-airing of season 1 and I watched parts of the very first episode, and yes, it's amazing what a total poser she was. How the mighty have fallen. But really, she's served no purpose on this show since season two. Her lasting impressions are "who gon' check me boo?" and She by Sheree. Andy Cohen loves to quote those phrases, but that's about all she's provided. Looking forward to seeing what spin she'll give for her departure from the series.

    As for NYC, their preview showed way too much of the newbies and too little of the veterans. I think The Countess was only in one clip with Ramona (something in regards to Ramona's "pinot-filled ass", ha!). Two of the 3 new ladies look a little... strange.

    It is so sad to see how much Sheree has lost, she has really lost everything : her home, her job, her dignity. In the first season, you almost by default sided with her because she came off as pretty rationale. Nowadays, she seems like a dillusional diva with a lion's mane.

  8. Thanks for sharing those wonderful OLTL episodes around Max's departure. I remember watching around that era. There was a lot of bad press going on because long-running characters and actors like Max, Gabrielle, Al, Hank, Rae, Renee and even Sam were being dropped from contract to retain the bevy of younger actors. I am happy that he got a formal goodbye, which is more than could be said for many veteran performers in his shows on other soap operas. To me, it was clear that there was still so much for Max to do. Alas, so is the curse for aging pretty boys.

  9. Look at the undeniable passion in this photo:

    BrookeEdmund.jpg

    John Callahan was such a cutie. I think he, like so many men, began gaining wait after they got married. He was still handsome at the end of the AMC run, but a little time at the gym would have benefitted him greatly.

    Another classic photo of Mr. Callahan:

    Edmund7.jpg

  10. I did and agree with Carl- she must have been a sub.

    I can't, however, figure out any rhyme or reason to the order the actors are listed in the credits, unless it was in order of appearance of the cast for the day and then the rest of the contract players directly underneath them.

    I always followed soap credits so I knew the system each different show would use, but I guess I wasn't paying too close attention to Loving's at this time because I'm baffled.

    Thanks for posting. It's sad reading of all of Perry Stephens' hopes and dreams for his life knowing that he died so young.

    My aunt, who works for local ABC Affiliate Channel 7 in Buffalo, has a picture of herself and Stephens in the mid-to-late eighties when he was a guest on AM Buffalo. I can attest to his being well over 6 foot and his blue eyes were just as gorgeous in the picture as they were on TV. And Loving became my Grandmother's soap after Search went off the air, so I ended up following it through watching it with her at her house (I was an NBC boy, so Search was natural for me to follow- Loving was my first non-NBC soap) and quickly was watching it on my own at home (I tried Generations when it started, but couldn't get into it, although it didn't help that I really was hooked on Loving at the time).

    Anyhow, I always liked Stephens' Jack (I wasn't fond of his replacement) and thought he had a certain warmth about him. He was taken too soon.

    When I spoke to Bill Timoney about Perry Stephens, the emotions were very palatable. They were such good friends ffrom Perry"s time as a under 5 at AMC. It sounded like he was very loved and that many miss him. How did he pass?

  11. Sometime in the furture i will post Y&R April 17 1991 that has Caryn Richman subbing for Tracey Bregman as Lauren. smile.png

    oooo... I would love to see this. Tracey was such a compelling actress at that time. I would love to see what someone else did with the Lauren role. What prompted her departure?

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