Pine Charles

Alec and Hayley were a mess--and thankfully not around for long. What WAS interesting was the twisted relationship with Alec and her mom and I suppose due to that reason it was a worthwhile story.

THAT was the whole reason for the Hayley/Alec hookup, no?

And, yes - the Alec/Arlene affair was brilliant.

It sounds like Derek is saying "F-ck no!" @ about :18 in this clip.

I did find this clipwith her in it

LMAO! Phoebe is hilarious there!

Langley: "You need an aspirin."

Phoebe: "I need a DRINK!"

I was going to ask - did you know there's a Youtube channel that uploads a lot of classic Joan stuff (some of her silent films, and more obscure TV appearances, among others)?

(If that isn't Joan Crawford, just blame tired eyes)

I do! I love Joan! LOL

Going to be a bitch ....lol...but why is the AMC thread still on DTS?? It should be moved to the cancelled part of the board. Just sayin...and bitchin a bit..lol

AMC was canceled ... ??????

I don't think the woman with Enid was a major character.....just one of her snobby friends.

Oh, yeah...

1989 was when they started cleaning house, right? I wonder what went on in 1988 that pushed in that direction. I know that was the year Laura was killed, Skye was a bigot and spent months in a coma, Erica gave birth to Bianca, and wasn't that the year Silver was killed and Palmer blackmailed Natalie.

Yeah.

I think the strike that year hurt the show. I think very early '88 was considered good, but things became a bit lackluster after that. That was also the year Erica took off with Bianca and posed as a waitress at a hick diner. I think her name was Sally.

'89 was when Felicia Minei Behr became EP.

Do you think the show had a certain formula which worked in 1987 and failed after this, or was 1987 already a year of decline?

Many thought the show went downhill in '85-'86. Of course, losing highly popular stars such as Kim Delaney, Dorothy Lyman and Marcy Walker didn't help matters. It seems in '87 the show improved in writing (I believe AMC was named 'Most Improved Show' by SOD that year). The Cortlandt story -- which climaxed with Ross' rape of Natalie and the resulting trial -- was the major story that year.

Anyone have a clip of Natalie in the well? I want to see that. Can't find it on YT.

LOL. Belle is so funny...

Lynne Thigpen =

Oh, dear.

Well....

I think I want to go clubbing with the one @ :11.

What do y'all make of this scene?

Some say it was OTT. On the flip side, given the history and the way Erica initially grieved, I say it was pitch-perfect. Susan Lucci reminds me of Joan Crawford -- in pure acting sense alone. Very charismatic! Some say they're both better "stars" than actors; given the right material/direction, however, they both can (did) do wonders.

You Betta WORK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RsRYHng8&feature=plcp&context=C22cafUDOEgsToPDskLSg41Rm5p73y9PPgqB2xsD

What the hell...

LOL! First SuLu commercial had her saying, "11 years..."; then, right after the latest loss, "12 years...".

They had Phoebe fall on the ice leaving Adam's, with frantic Marian testing if she was coherent, asking questions like, "Who's the president?", and exasperated Phoebe snapping, "Caligula!"

LOL!

Yeah.

Do you remember when Janet drugged him and sent him to California?

Well, Harold traveled cross-country on foot (errr... paw), read road signs back to PV, and interrupted a wedding ceremony.

Yes, I guess Harold wins.

Bonkers the Cat vs. Harold the Dog......

who would win?

Erica is replaced as "An American Beauty'':