Everything posted by DeeVee
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This just made me realize something: If Marland gave an unseen character an unimaginative name (Gerald, Herbert, Jennifer's husband Walter) you were never going to see them on screen. Interestingly, there were many references to unseen Mona Enright, who DID show up eventually. But I doubt she would have shown up on screen if Marland hadn't left and new writers decided to make the woman Quint was hiding in the attic said Mona. In fact, while Marland was writing the show, I believe the plan was to reveal eventually that Mark had killed her. (BTW, no insult meant to anyone with these names, my beloved grandfather was named Walter, but they aren't what you think of as soap opera names).
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I thought of another! When Mauren first hit town, she had just gotten divorced by some guy named Herbert. That's how she and Ed became simpatico, because they were both going through similar situations. Strangely, they never brought back Herbert (why would you, that name...) but they did bring back and old boyfriend of hers (I think his name was Matt). Ed had asked her to marry him but she demured, and for a while took up with Matt again. Later she decided all she and Matt had in common was sex, so she went back to Ed. (Which doesn't make Ed look very good, especially since a lot of his problems with Rita were sexual). Mitch and I have an alternate universe story going on for the 7th Reardon, a woman who apparently was once mentioned as Lana Reardon. We don't like the name, so we refer to her as NotLana, and imagine her as one of Alan's long-lost loves.
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I recently watched these episodes on the German channel. I couldn't find the one where she kills the snake, but it was about Alex looking for info on Alan's sorjourn in San Rios (she became ill and was nursed by a Central Casting Latina lady). Johnny, Simon, and Jessie followed her to San Rios. Because, I don't know, they needed to give them something to do? They got captured by some Central Casting Sandanista-types (Jessie was shot). This got folded into the Vanessa searching for her child story, as she erroneously thought Jessie was her child, so Ross went to San Rios to find her. As far as I can tell, no one ever found this Encantadora chick. I assume this was a story that was dropped for one reason or another (probably because someone realized it was STUPID, or maybe it was reused in some ways for the Sonni/Solita storyline later). Mostly, it ended up being about Alan (who was safely back in SF) being sought by the faux Sandanistas for some undefined crime. He had his own wanted poster and everything! Luckily, since this is a stereotypical Central American country, a sudden regime change meant Alan was in the clear AND Spaulding got the mineral rights for the whole country.
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What I find most interesting about this is how "on" Jordan is in the scene, as if this is being taped for the show, not an audition. I would guess one reason KZ got the role was because she was able to keep JC from totally dominating the scene. The chemistry between her and RN is less obvious. I think she's said it took a little while for them to vibe.
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Oh, sure, but a lot that was left out was pretty bad. 😂 I will say, the one thing that I liked about that year was Alan and India's relationship. I found a few more episodes on the German channel that weren't on Spauldingfield. CB and MKA had great chemistry. I really enjoyed how they cautiously circled each other and messed with each other in between the flirting. Never will understand why they didn't really run with it.
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Thanks for posting this. Since I recently watched 1986, can't say I disagree with anything said here. They pretty much nail it on the storylines they touch on. (Ugh, Phillip's novel. A strong contender for biggest time waster in GL's history). But I wonder if this is a review of the entire year, as there is no mention of: Chris Bernau's return Robert Newman's return That horrible summer camp storyline That horrible Andora gold storyline Beth's disappearance/"death" Vanessa's search for her child The restart and quick dissolution of Reva and Kyle's relationship The intros of Johnny Bauer and Chelsea Reardon I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff. Maybe they just ran out of room. 😂
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Maybe not as close as he was to Ed, because they were colleagues, but they were friends. No, Jackie was not using Mike to make Justin jealous. After her divorce from Alan she was very much after Mike. She caught Mike and Elizabeth together because she decided to "surprise" Mike by showing up unexpectedly at his law conference. She was furious and hurt because they were betraying Justin, yes, but also because she had built up her relationship with Mike as more than it was, at least from his perspective. Mike knew she was interested in a relationship with him but didn't discourage her, even though he was still crazy about Elizabeth.
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I liked him much better when the Dobsons were writing the character. He wasn't sanctimonious at all. He was pretty flawed and human, stringing Jackie along and jumping into bed with the married Elizabeth, later terrified Jackie would out them to Justin. His hatred of Alan was totally understandable vindictiveness because Alan ruined his relationship with Elizabeth. Fast-forward to the beginning of Marland's tenure, and he's suddenly lecturing everyone on honesty and values and wants to bring down Alan for truth, justice, and the American way. Like he hadn't just been banging his friend's wife in a hotel room and desperately trying to cover it up mere weeks before. 😂
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It was over before Maureen and Ed met. TBH, I never bought Vanessa's friendship with Maureen. Van didn't like the Reardons and looked down on them. (Yes, she eventually married one and had a good relationship with his sister, but that was later). Her friendship with Trish was only believable because they were sorority sisters. Van is the type of woman who doesn't have deep female friendships, she's much more interested in the company of men.
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I believe Roger, involved with Alex, is a huge reason why they should have brought back Alan way sooner. And I think it would have been a GOOD thing if Alan wasn't always so focused on Phillip for a change. Which is another reason AM should not have been stuck in the Spaulding musical chairs game about who would run the company. It's tedious. As discussed earlier, he could have become a lawyer. Perhaps mentored by Mike, and could have even taken Mike's place as Spaulding nemesis, getting back at the father who valued his biological son less than his adopted son. Considering she had an affair with Ed while he was still married, that would have been just a tad hypocritical. (Yes, Ed and Rita were pretty much done, but Vanessa did tend to flirt with lots of men regardless of marital status, so...) Which reminds me. I've been watching the German episodes that include her affair with Ed. Did Ed and Van EVER recall or refer to their former relationship after that? It seems to me they totally memory holed it after it ended. (I still don't quite get why they were ever paired up in the first place. Can't imagine why Van was so keen to catch him).
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Here's my theory for why this happened: Alan was no longer on the canvas, Phillip was reunited with Beth, so the obvious contender to take Alan's place as the Spaulding manipulator was AM. Before, he was used by Harley (up to a point) and Blake. Later, he manipulated Eleni into marriage, which was a classic Alan type of thing to do. Now I'm realizing why I despised that story so much, because AM was a sweet guy in the beginning. They should have emphasized his Bauer lineage instead. Pulled in one direction by the shiny things on the Spaulding side, pulled the other way by Bauer values. So yeah, they changed the character, and IMO, they shouldn't have.
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I thought of Schultz, too, but maybe she was too young to work as Alan Michael's mother. (If we're rewriting GL history, we could have not SORASed AM so quickly, though it would be sad to lose Carl). Dee was written as a sad sack. I remember her doing a short stint on Y&R as a wedding planner and she was quite vibrant. Another who could have worked was the last actress to play Annie on ATWT, Mary Lynn Blanks. She had that warmth and sweet blonde looks.
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I thought she was fine, just rarely got a good chance to emote. She had a warmth that was very appropriate for the character, much like Mart Hulswit. It's funny you mentioned Sharon. I've often thought she could have been a good recast for Rita. If it wasn't for the quickly SORASed Alan Michael issue, I was thinking how great it would have been if Marcy Walker had been cast as Hope when they brought her on the show, instead of a palid new character no one cared about.