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3 hours ago, Khan said:

I don't think it's that simple, though.  You could replace most of the background music, but what about the pop/rock songs that Lisa Hartman often performed on the show as Ciji (and later, as Cathy)?  You'd have to edit out those performances entirely, which, in turn, would affect the continuity of storylines, since music played an integral part in the storytelling during those years.

Such a shame because when this show was good, it was REALLY good.

3 hours ago, Khan said:

In a word: music rights.  (Okay, that's two words, lol).

Streaming KNOTS on any platform is a challenge due to music rights, or so we've been told over the years by various folks.  Whenever they paid for the use of particular pieces of music, it was for a limited number of airings (don't know exactly how many).  Never had it occurred to producers that episodes still would be repeated decades later in syndication, let alone on the Internet.

And, I wonder what the process and cost would be to replacing the background music.

I tuned in today for the first time in a few weeks. Why did I do this to myself?

But, anyway...

So, Luna has the world's worst luck apparently. Not only will she never ever eat a "mint" again, but everybody used protection and it looks like she STILL got pregnant??? 

I know why they don't because of their viewership, but it feels so outdated that no one mentions that IF Luna is pregnant, she can have it terminated. She doesn't have to become a mother. This isn't 1958.

On 5/12/2024 at 2:49 AM, Jdee43 said:

Jade and Danny get dumped. The last time their story is featured is episode 110 (12/31/84).  

Watching the early episodes which I may have seen, but I was too young to remember most of it. M(B)R was soooooo green on SB. She must have take more acting lessons, classes before heading to DAYS. I actually found the guy who played Danny to be kind of entertaining, and he seemed to have a knack for playing the comedy parts. I think when Santana #1 and Rueben disappeared they sort of gave up on the Danny character, too.

In an early episode, Rueben has a conversation with Cruz and mentions that he and Rosa had two other daughters. I think one may have been named Gabriela, but they were never mentioned again.

I can't believe that this show is still NOT available for streaming. It feels like everything, the most obscure old TV shows, are available for streaming but not KNOTS. Does anyone have any info on why?

8 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

 

B&B Justin tries to overtake Spencer publications. This would ueled stories for years just like Brooke taking 51% of Forrester did. But instead it was over in two minutes. This was also a perfect opportunity to showcase a strong black villain which I'm not sure Bold has ever had.

 

I thought the SAME EXACT THING at the time. That story could have been amazing. It should have played out in beats over a year with Justin eventually taking over the company AND marrying Katie while Bill sat in jail. Then, once Bill got out of jail, the fireworks would have been fantastic. Instead, it all got wrapped up in one episode, and we never saw Justin again.

B&B just can not write for black characters long-term (or any sort of minority). They really had the chance at something with the Avants and let it disappear.

I think the early B&B years with Bill Bell writing wasn't the most earth shattering, but I agree it was well-written solid soap. A bit slow, of course, but the 30 minute format worked well with that at the time. It's hard to top Sally Spectra and her introduction which really made the show click IMO. Early Brooke/Stephanie as was Caroline. If only the show now was a fraction of that well-written.

As someone mentioned Lumina on AW...HORRIBLE. Remember Amanda and the secret garden? I assume they got a mandate to make the show more DAYS like, but that was never what AW was meant to be. The show shined when it focused on friendships, IMO.

But, I'm not sure anything can top Erica's "unabortion" on AMC. Who the hell approved that????

On 5/11/2024 at 7:39 PM, Xanthe said:

I am always curious because his Jamie was so disappointing to me after Yates and of course Bekins: what was Greg Nelson like and what about that character made AW cast Lau as Jamie despite his personal issues? Was it just the simple calculus that the actor had been popular on AMC?

He stayed on AW for almost 3.5 years, which is a strange length of time -- was he on a 3 year contract and then lingered a little bit longer?

I started watching as kid when Lau played Jamie, so I didn't have any reference for the actors before him. But, it always seemed that they didn't quite know what to do with the character. Russell Todd's version, even though he was quite handsome, never really took, either. Just reading about the history of the show, IMO, TPTB aged Jamie way too quickly, too, and it prematurely aged the character of Rachel.

I wonder what the point is to being "secretly recurring" especially in a non-legacy character like Elena.

On 5/7/2024 at 8:21 AM, DramatistDreamer said:

Also, we don’t need to see religion play out extensively onscreen but I wouldn’t mind seeing family members enter the house after church, dressed in Sunday best getting ready for an elaborately prepared Sunday dinner. Who is invited, who is not, the “the Upstairs/Downstairs aspect with the machinations and conversations going on between the cook and housekeeping staff, could be an interesting view not portrayed in an American daytime soap opera before. It doesn’t need to be a regular thing but maybe an episode around Easter time etc.

Not that they'd ever let the show get this complex, but, I've always thought B&B had the potential to explore the Upstairs/Downstairs aspect with Forrester Creations. You'd have all the execs and creatives "upstairs" and all the lower-income, not so glamourous underlings in the basement where Thorne once worked. Of course, there would be the classic character trying to claw their way up. Sigh. But, instead we just get constant conversations about mints, toes, and dialogue that goes in circles and has an amount of depth that even my betta fish could follow the show.

3 hours ago, Sapounopera said:

I am bored to death with super rich characters, Dynasty was cancelled in 1989. I love having middle class people on soaps, someone very ambitious who wants to enter a (not crazy) rich person's world, people who careers, goals and dreams. I don't get why daytime is still obsessed with tycoons and billionaires. Primetime has more or less given up on them in decades.  

ITA...for example, on Y&R, almost all the characters are already super rich and successful. There's not the class conflict or the person clawing their way up to provide conflict. Not to mention, it's hard to believe people are billionaires when their home is only about ten feet wide...cough...the Newmans..cough.

How many of Steffy's 20 appearances were just her repeating the same dialogue about how Sheila is "dead" and they "don't have to worry about her anymore."

How is Paris possibly still on contract???

Between a doctor not taking someone who has been chained to a wall for days to the hospital to women acting like Liam is some gift from the Gods again...

I think I'm done. I just can't even hate watch the show anymore.

12 hours ago, Cruising Soaps said:

Well, I enjoyed Jack and Nikki today.  Peter Bergman and MTS gave it their all.  Not one bit of Fast Forwarding for me today.

Me, either. Great to see them get a stand alone!

On 4/30/2024 at 11:25 AM, DramatistDreamer said:

Don’t get me started! I HATE Final Draft but basically Final Draft muscled out other competing software companies.
First, it was FD and Moviemagic colluding to push out smaller screenwriting software companies by secretly buying them out (their own version of “catch and kill”) or just stomping out the vulnerable outfits. Then finally FD effectively rendered MM obsolete by out marketing them. FD is far from the best but they were and are the most ruthless and were able to get award winning screenwriters to promote their software.

I despise Final Draft but unfortunately, they are inevitable.

Final Draft is the buggiest software I've ever used. It makes me want to throw my computer out the window sometimes!

ITA...I was looking forward to a more developed Lily/Daniel/Heather story. MG and CK have such great chemistry.

Wait...did Billy and Abby actually meet and NOT ONCE talk about what the hell is going on with Ashley???

14 hours ago, Maxim said:

Am I the only one that gagged when Deacon just... took one old lying in the trash bottle of SPORT drink and started sipping it IN Sheila's mouth. This was so stupid. God knows who used to drink from this bottle and the bacteria that's been living in it. No sane person will do this. DISGUSTING. Also what are you both doing staring at her eyes and smiling at her. Call the ambulance and get that b-tch out of her pee soaked mattress.

 

 

I thought the same thing!!! Like, CALL AN AMBULANCE AND THE POLICE! Don't just smile all googly-eyed at her. And, God knows what was in that random sports drink bottle.

While God was giving out brains, Finn and Deacon were busy Googling "What is sugar?"

I'm so excited about Liam meeting up with Ivy and Steffy and Hope being jealous and....wait...no...I'm literally not excited about ANY of that.

Happy nine toes, mints, and staplers to you all!!

I really miss when random people would tell Carter he was "just like family" all the time. We don't get that anymore.

It's so funny that no one in the Abbott family has bothered to tell Abby that her mom is losing her marbles. Has no one thought to call her???

I could care less who runs Chancellor-Winters...snore.

6 hours ago, Althea Davis said:

I will be up to see that. 

Unfortunately, the show would never be that creative.

10 hours ago, janea4old said:

Daytime Confidential did a nice summary of what Ash said
(you get to read what she said without all the SSK filler)
https://daytimeconfidential.com/2024/04/25/b-bs-ashleigh-brewer-on-ivy-she-is-at-an-age-where-shes-asking-the-big-questions

What a random character to bring back. The show needs more characters that AREN'T Forresters at this point. It's all so incestuous as it is.

4 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

You're exactly right. Since when did this become a discussion of "Who's hotter, Joshua Morrow or Shemar Moore"? LOL  It's actually funny that every so often this board decides it's again time to announce that JM is a bad actor." Then it was that he's not a genuine dad with adult kids. Now we hear he never really happened.  I mean, are we serious with this?

 

The takeover stuff is all so, so bad. What's the point of it if it never leads to anything?

Take yesterday's "Should Nate be on the CW board?" They STOOD AROUND in Lily's office talking this through. Who does that? And what difference does it make if Nate is on the board? We have no idea what Nate does at the company or what he believes -- or what anyone else does or believes.

In the Bill Bell era, we'd go into this scene knowing what Nate wanted to do within the company. The board would meet in a boardroom -- and they would be seated with binders of material in front of them. There would be extras playing other board members. That's called TRYING to be authentic.

And one thing that drives me nuts is that besides Jabot, we have NO IDEA what the hell any of these companies even do. There are so many companies talked about I'm not sure even the writers know. Like...what the hell was the point of Sharon inheriting that random company from the psycho? There was no purprose.

15 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Finn's abs were the only star of today's show.

We got more of Luna's pouty face (17th day in a row) followed by more of Deacon's abject stupidity shown every time he get on the computer.

Deacon looks so thrown by computers and how to use them. I'm waiting for him to type "What is the internet?" into a search engine next.

9 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Are there any actual fans of this Chancellor-Winters “business” story? It’s completely unwatchable. Not even having Jill and Mamie making appearances can save this story from being a sinking stinker.

This show turns into a snoozefest anytime people starting talking about mergers, takeovers, yada yada yada.

Besides Sheila/Deacon, the rest of the show was just FF. We did not need, in the least, for Liam and Steffy to basically repeat the same tired dialogue they said on Friday to each other.

Write a "B-story" for God's sake!!