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Larry got somewhat emotionally invested in Adrienne Morrow, who was the wife of the head of the designer drug ring. Clarice felt that he was neglecting her and the kids. Larry and Adrienne never had an actual affair though.

Yes, Floyd Watts only existed as part of Sharlene's backstory. I believe Sharlene went by the surname Watts when she was first introduced in 1975, then took the name Matthews during her marriage to Russ, and Frame upon her return to Bay City in 1988. AW was funny sometimes about last names. Matthew kept the last name of Cory, which made sense because Mac played a big part in raising him and Mac and Rachel were married for much of his youth. However Matthew did briefly consider changing his name to Blake (his father's last name). Part of it was when Matthew was starting D&M with Dean. Matt didn't like the seemingly preferential treatment the last name Cory was giving him. I suppose he could've also assumed Davis, his mother's maiden name. Because the show seemed to focus on Josie being a Frame more than a Matthews, I would've thought it more likely that Josie would take the Frame surname. But then again, Lorna kept the name Devon and, majority of the time, Iris went by a husband's last name, starting with Carrington and ending with Wheeler. Ada could've used her maiden name of Lucas, but she kept the name Hobson from the time that she married Charley until her death.

A lot of information on the AWHP came from the Somerset fan who created the site, The Somerset Registry. It's possible that he used AWHP's basic criteria to distinguish between major and minor characters. Therefore, the designations for characters comes from The Somerset Registry itself. Aside from that, I don't know enough about Somerset's storylines to verify Marsha's importance and storylines. So, I can't judge whether she was truly minor. That distinction is often grey with AW.

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I know and I appreciate your help.

Also, from research I've done, The Doctors and Another World may have been Pre-empted on February 6, October 15, and November 7, 1973, but I'm not 100% sure of the dates and reasons. Likely, the had to do with Watergate, or the energy crisis. It doesn't look like the above three days affected Days though.

So, Another World wasn't pre-empted on 12/28, but not 12/19/72 for the Apollo 17 Return and Splashdown? Looks like the coverage may have been long enough to pre-empt Days and The Doctors, but not Another World.

Here's what I have for pre-emptions in 1973. From what I've learned, by June or July 1973, TPTB got sick of all the pre-emptions due to Watergate, so they started rotating them by network instead of pre-empting all soaps. Here's what I have for Days and Another World, probably The Doctors as well: May 17, 18, 22, 23, 24, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings June 5 and 12, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings June 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings July 11, 16, 19, 24, and 27, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings August 1 and 6, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings September 25, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings October 8, 9, and 10, 1973: American League Playoffs October 15, 1973: Watergate Senate Hearings It seems like there was a pre-emption for Another World in early November 1973, but I'm not sure. Well, aside from November 22, 1973. I don't think the two January 1973 were really pre-emption as I can't find a legitimate reason. Unfortunately, the air dates listed by the university archivist and/or the credits pages of the script don't always account for pre-emptions. Unfortunately, this happened a lot within the Another World script collections in October despite the World Series and/or Playoffs making it so it didn't air.

Appreciate all the hardwork, Jason. I've used your pages to verify and correct pre-emptions and air dates on the AWHP. Not sure if they will be forthcoming, but I'm curious about which soaps were pre-empted on December 19, 1972 for the Apollo 17 Return/Splashdown. From my own research, it looks like Days of Our Lives and The Doctors was pre-empted. However, according to my research of the Another World scripts, they don't seem to account for a pre-emption on that day. However, two dates from early January 1973 seem to be randomly skipped. I'm also unsure of pre-emption from February 5 or 6, 1973. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

On the May 17, 1991 episode where M.J. and Mary have a reunion with a previously presumed dead Kathleen, I think Mary mentions that Ben and Cheryl wanted to come but couldn't or something along those lines. In the last couple years of the show, there was talk about bringing some of Jake's family back, so Ben may have been mentioned occasionally at that time as well.

Looks like my date for Laura Malone's exit is wrong on the AWHP. We thought it was some time in late July 1984, but it doesn't look like it. I'm assuming Ross hiding from Julia leads to her getting mugged and killed, which should be at the end of the following week (August 6-10). Was August 3, 1984 it for Laura Malone then?

The first 2.25 hours seem to be completely new to me. Of course, I don't know Italian and I can't quite tell if these are full episodes or some clips bookended with an opening and closing, but based on the characters present my guess is November/December 1983 -February 1984. Mark is in the hospital, Carl is on the cast crawl, Stacey, Ted Bancroft, and Leo Mars are still present, and Kathleen Layman seems to make an early appearance as MJ. The "Welcome Party?" For Mac I think would be after he was hospitalized because of being out in the Canadian wilderness in January 1984. I'll have to give it a closer inspection

It's been said that Irna went for melodrama instead of the more slow-moving, character-driven story from ATWT. Irna worried that NBC would be too quick to cancel Another World if it wasn't an immediate hit. Irna had a habit of hiring and firing actors on a whim as well. During Eddie's interview with Carol Roux she mentioned that Sarah Cunningham was fired after the first episode due to cutting her long hair. So, that's another legend. It was said that John Beal wasn't the right fit for Jim Matthews so he was quickly replaced by Leon Janney, whom Carol mentioned had been fired for making fun of the scripts. I've never come across an explanation for Joey Trent (Russ), Fran Sharon (Susan), and Vera Allen (Granny), but Carol sadly mentioned that Joey never acted again after that. My guess for Granny is that perhaps Irna felt the matriarch role was crowded with both Granny and Mary present, so she chose to keep Mary and sent Granny to help her niece give birth to her first child ( Granny is briefly mentioned in '65, but ultimately Jim asked Granny not to return to Bay City while Pat's trial was taken place. Granny would soon never be mentioned again). But, based on the stories that took place during the first year, there didn't seem to be room for Granny, Russ, and Susan. Until Susan left in October 1964, she found her own place, kept Liz at a safe distance, and along with Janet had "inside information" about Tom and Pat, her abortion, and hospitalization. Irna seemed to throw things at the wall to see what would stick, making plot points that were never mentioned again, like the legend of the campus bridge where a girl committed suicide to a failed love affair and something that happened five years prior to the show that cause a rift between Mary and Liz (though Lipton tried to establish that it had to do with Will and Jim's partnership in the family's accounting firm). Pat seemed to go back and forth between being hopelessly in love with Tom to being ambivalent, which I found kind or irritating. There are a few of the handwritten critiques included in the notes section if you're interested. I've enjoyed filling in the gaps within the synopses that were left after the original sets were done. I just wish Bowling Greene's collection wasn't so sketchy for 1973, but at least their wasn't a cast overhaul that year. I'm hoping the actual scripts after 12/31/79 are somewhere as, despite the newer sources for information, the years 1980 until June/July 1984 are still sketchy. I wish a rebroadcast of AW would take place again like currently with The Doctors. It's sad to think that all of those tapes are in a warehouse collecting dust.

One legend that actually proved to be true was that Irna Philips had planned to kill off Alice in a fire while she was at a summer camp. At first, I thought it was far-fetched, but then Jacquie Courtney referenced in an interview. I admire actors like Jacquie, Charles Baxter, and Murial Williams. Charles Baxter was for the most part a background, supporting character until his romance with Susan and Alice was mostly supporting until Steve arrived. So, the fact that they stayed in their roles for so long before finally getting story is admirable to me. Aside from Sunset Beach and Another World, did any other soap have such a difficult first couple months?

I have no idea the source of the legend of the fatal plane crash involving the Gregorys. Something like that seemed uncharacteristic of Agnes Nixon to do upon further research. Julie Poll had mentioned that interns went through the script collection at Bowling Greene (the June 1964-December 1979 scripts on microfilm reels) as part of the process of compiling the book. It's likely that they didn't know about a separate paper scripts collection (June 1964-October 1966) that includes scripts for August 1, 1965 - October 29, 1965, which seemed to be donated years later. Eddie found them by a stroke of luck. We were pleased to fill out details for that period. The problem with the Gregory family is, aside from Pat (with Ernest at first) and Janet, they barely interacted with the Matthews. There was this build up over Ernest seeing his brother, Alex and former fiance, Karen after being estranged for 10 years along with Janet's apprehension towards meeting Karen. But once it happened, everything lost momentum. Aside from Alex's objections to Karen returning to nursing, the family was written out fairly quietly. Alex died from a car accident off screen while he and Karen were driving to meet friends. There were some really scathing notes on the scripts during Lipton's last few weeks as head writer. I don't know if they were from Nixon as she prepared to take over or someone else. Nixon made a wise decision with the Gregorys though. She introduced Katherine Corning (Missy's mother) and Helen Moore, who would be pivotal for Missy, Liz, and Bill for months. Unfortunately, after Janet broke off her engagement to Ernest, she became a confidante to Pat, but was relegated to the backburner until she left in June 1966. One of the things I most appreciate about Lemay is that he didn't do a cast overhaul and bombard the show with his own characters upon becoming head writer. When he assumed the role of headwriter, I don't know if he was following Cenedella's story projections or whether it was his decision, but he only wrote out Dan Shearer, Susan, and Caroline Johnson. I think Dan and Susan were heading for an exit anyway and the Caroline Johnson story had gone on too long, despite the conclusion being disappointing. Aside from Mark Venable and some minor characters, his first major characters were Iris, Louise, Dennis, and Eliot, which wasn't until December 1972. Over a year from when he started. Gil McGowan was created in June 1972, but it seems like the character may have been recurring until Dolph Sweet took over.

The novels weren't a collaboration between the author and the show's producers, writers, etc. I honestly regard the novels as something a fan wrote covering the stories that played out onscreen from her/his point of view and adding their own details in spots. I have not found any instances on screen or in the scripts in all of my research where Michael's name was revealed to be a namesake of Mike Bauer, either when Pat was expecting, first had the twins, or afterwards. This is not a case of retconning. This is a fan theory and nothing more until I find evidence otherwise. Yes, retcons happen. One example is Liz's marriage to Will being loveless. Janet and Susan asserted from their perspective that Liz emasculated men in her life (Will, Fred Douglas), but Will and Liz loved each other. Liz took a long time coming to terms with his unexpected death at 48 years old and had a hard accepting being a widow. Unfortunately, sometimes soap press can get things wrong and it takes time for something to be disprovent such as the entire Gregory family being killed off in a plane crash. It took years to disprove that. Big reason was the necessary scripts are not among the reels at Bowling Greene and are in a separate collection that Eddie discovered.

Agreed, Mona. But, no I wouldn't take anything in the novels as cannon that wasn't revealed on air.

Just be careful with the novelizations and referencing established history. They don't credit the headwriters of the show at the time and there's backstory filled with elenents that were never revealed on air. I don't believe the novelizations were any kind of collaboration despite having a P&G copyright.

I've never heard that theory before, so it's definitely a new one in my mind. Pure conjecture in my mind. I've yet to find any reference to that. If John and Pat wished to name their son after a character, it would've been Samantha (Sam) after Sam Lucas or Drew/Michael (in honor of Mitchell Dru). Those would be far more likely and excellent nods to established history. Characters with professional and personal ties. John would not want to be reminded of Pat developing feelings for Mike Bauer as it was partially due to John being a tyrant towards Pat while he was dealing with paralysis. Pat was ultimately contrite and perhaps embarrassed of her attraction to Mike. Plus, that renewed Lee's hatred towards Pat. They had resolved their differences because Lee saw Pat's devotion towards her father during John's paralysis and genuinely felt sorry for her because John was mistreating Pat. Yes, Rachel named Matthew after the Matthews family, partially because Russ and Tracy DeWitt had agreed to adopt Matthew when Rachel was facing an eight year prison sentence for supposedly killing Mitch and Rachel assumed that Mac would not want to raise another man's son. Probably helped that, of the Matthews, Pat, Russ, and Jim settled their differences and became friends with Rachel. I'd like to think that perhaps Mary and Rachel could've been friends had Mary lived past March 1975.

Scene is from April 26, 1976. Surprised by the time jump but, considering how rare anything of Another World until 1979 is, even clips or a scene or two from an episode is a treasure.

Thank you for the birthday wishes everyone. Much appreciated.

Well, once Alice told Jim the true reason that she broke off her engagement to Steve, Jim then told Mary. They decided to maintain the ruse that Russ was the father of Rachel's baby to save Russ's pride and self respect. Rachel didn't have her pregnancy confirmed by a doctor and then known to everyone until Rachel had reconciled with Russ and been intimate with him. Before Steve and Alice's engagement party only Ada knew about Steve and Rachel's one night stand. Everyone was perplexed when Rachel seemingly changed her mind about having a baby with Russ as she had vehemently opposed to it prior to Jamie being conceived. But, I see your point. The truth about Jamie's pregnancy and the revelation's effect on Russ and probably knowing the truth for some time is what led Alice to go to Avignon France.

Rachel discovered she was pregnant shortly after she and Steve had a one-night stand in early March 1969. She revealed to Steve that he was the father of her baby, but Steve denied paternity and refused to believe that Rachel had not been intimate with Russ prior to Russ and Rachel's separation. So, Rachel returned to Russ, convinced him to be intimate with her, had her condition confirmed, and proceeded to pass the baby off as Russ's child. All of this was known to the audience including when Rachel revealed her pregnancy to Alice and that Steve was likely the father. Alice got Steve to admit that he could've fathered Rachel's baby and broke off their engagement. It wasn't until June 1970 that the baby (Jamie's) paternity was proven definitively. Russ admitted to Alice that he and Rachel had not been intimate for four months prior to their separation and subsequent reconciliation. Alice did the math and realized that Russ could not have fathered Rachel's baby. Later, Steve and Russ had a paternity test done as the show was heading for a trial to take place, which lead to Russ and Rachel's divorce.

August 4 and 5, 1969 were the episodes. The new "classic" daily synopses are as complete as possible for May 4, 1964-January 25, 1974 on the AWHP. This project will continue so that, in the future the years 1974, 1977, and 1978 will be complete as well. I wish we could complete 1980-1986 as well, but the collection at Bowling Green ends with 12/31/79. Unfortunately, 1973 is very spotty in that collection, with much of February-March, the last few days of October, and all of November and December conpletely missing.

Yes, that was frustrating that "Young" Steve and Henry did not have actor credits, though it was amazing that "Young" Willis and Jenny were listed as Chase Crosley and Mark Beal. I'd love to see video footage of Rachel revealing her pregnancy to Alice as well. I would think Cenedella or Robin Strasser would be among the most likely of anyone if has been preserved but who knows? The audio of it is something I've to more times than I can count. Danielle's last appearance as Nancy is tough to pin down just because she wasn't really involved in story until she was aged and Jane Cameron took over the role. I recently learned that Jane's first appearance as Nancy was getting a ride home from school in a limousine. Since Danielle played Nancy as a baby to about 9 years old, left the show about a month before Danielle turned 10 years old, and Nancy first appeared on screen in July 1974, I imagine her birthday was May or June 1974 (estimate). I'd love to see Victoria Thompson as Janice, Janis Young as Bernice, and of course more of Judith Barcroft, Sam Groom, Joe Gallison, Robin Strasser, and Carol Roux. The earliest known footage of Victoria Wyndham as Rachel may be the March 1973 episodes at UCLA. Unfortunately, they're not available for viewing anymore.