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1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Vanessa Marcil easily.  I mean she didn't have good chemistry with Ricky, but she had better chemistry with him than anyone else.  She even made Brad Rowe seem mildly not bland.

BH, SBu, KMc are honarble mentions for GH.

On Days I always thought Ali Sweeney managed good chemistry with her pairings. 

Deidre has done well with her pairings too.  The only person she has had anti chemistry with is JT's Roman.  And they actually were kinda cute in 86 when he played Chris.

Yeah if we thinking past actresses I would also say Vanessa marcil. Shemar Moore, Victoria Rowell, And Also Kim Matula, Rick Hearst. I forgot Sean kanan.

3 minutes ago, Kane said:

Vanessa Marcil had chemistry (romantic and non) with pretty much every person she had scenes with except for Ricky Martin.

I've always thought Rick Hearst was good at generating chemistry with whomever he was paired with (though I didn't see him on Y&R and only saw a bit of his first B&B run).

I thought he had good chem with Hunter and KKL 

Basically which actors in daytime have chemistry with almost everyone their romantically paired with, for me.

b&b- Katherine Kelly Lang(except TK), Rena Sofer, Jacqui Woods, Lawrence St Victor

y&R- Sharon Case, Mishael Morgan, Michelle Stafford

 Gh- Rebecca Herbst, Donnel Turner; Maura West

days-Nadia Bjorlin, Robert Scott Wilson, Camila Banus

for me currently: 
1.Days- C+

2.GH- C-

3.bold- D+

4. y&r- F

How would you all describe Brenda Barrett archetype over the years 

Annika is a great actress 

8 hours ago, Videnbas said:

Good question! I think her archetype has not always been the same. Starting in the late 90s (probably around Brooke's Bedroom), she became "the Siren" - the irresistible woman who leads men astray (this was especially apparent with Throoke).

But she wasn't always like that - in fact, what defined her relationship with Ridge for the first decade or so was that she *couldn't* win him completely, no matter how hard she tried.

Early Brooke I see as "in love with love", she has a pretty self-centered and naive idea of romance (it's all about following her heart) and believes in "destiny". But she is pretty complex in the early years and I can't really place her as just one archetype. I think she saw herself as Cinderella, but she really wasn't. 

I can't really find an archetype for the current Brooke either, but that is for the opposite reason - they simplified her by making her a siren, and then she outgrew that role and now the character is just a void the writers are struggling to fill.

This is a very interesting discussion and it made me start looking for more archetypal characters and plot structure on the show! (I feel the early characters are probably richer in that regard.)

So far, these are my immediately thoughts. 

Stephanie is clearly the Queen, of course. But there is also a Cassandra aspect to her at least in the early years - she frequently sees what is going to happen down the road but her warnings are usually ignored. Oh yeah, and then there's her very Oedipal relationship with Ridge. 

Stephanie and Eric could also be Hera and Zeus.

Caroline starts out as the Virgin type, but mixed with Helen of Troy (the woman whose beauty starts a war). 

Ridge is Don Juan (he even has a book of women!)

Thorne/Ridge - Cain/Abel? 

Sally is the clever thief + mama bear + the weeping clown

Clarke is the proud, arrogant, self-destructive creative genius who is brought down by his own flaws (sure there's a fitting mythological person but right now I can't place him) 

Macy is a mix of Juliet (to Thorne's Romeo) and Eeyore (and also functions as the Spectras' "straight man" during comedic scenes). 

Darla is the dumb blonde (but frequently subverts this trope). 

Katie is the Ugly Duckling. 

Taylor is the sage advisor (until she isn't). 

A more recent example - Aly is Hamlet. 

Lol what about a character like Steffy per say

2 hours ago, kalbir said:

Bill Bell wrote Brooke as a Jill/Lorie hybrid. Bradley turned her into the Forrester family mattress.

What would you describe that archetype per say? Like the type of character she was

How would all of you describe Brooke Logan’s archetype? It’s been complicated over the years I feel.

I actually liked the scene with Brooke and Hope today 

the Brooke and deacon story on Bold.

 Welp

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

I know someone answered it already as early as Brooke went after Eric but for myself I would say sometime in 1996 when Brooke went crazy nuts with the dolls. I enjoyed the villainous turn Brooke took there 1997-98 but after that ended she  became absolutely trashy between Brooke’s Bedroom and embracing herself as the Slut from the Valley. 
 

Nancy Sloan’s Katie was annoying throughout the 90’s only appearing as the babysitter for Rick, Bridget and CJ and being a ditzy live in sister/roommate talk to for Brooke. I swear I remember one time after Rick and Amber had their car accident and kidney donation  Katie was helping them and wearing an outfit that looked like a maid’s outfit a la Esther on Y&R.

I think the reason Sally and Macy were a success was because they were some Bell created uniquely for B&B and not a rehash of something Bell had done for Days and Y&R before. 

Ahh wasn’t a fan Of the Brooke bedroom arc

20 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I know that when BB tried to make Brooke into B&B's Valley version of Reva Shayne (even having a sort of 'baptizing' of Brooke as the "Slut From The Valley" similar to Reva's literally baptism as the "Slut Of Springfield"), the show truly began to get further away from its origins.

The character that  once had some complexity morphed closer to caricature, imo.

When do y’all think the decline of Brookes character began?

15 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

His material definitely began airing in 1993.

Yeah but what exact month range? Like what were his first stories? Did he write Brooke taking over forresters?

So Bradley Bell took over Spring 1993, right? Does anyone know when his stuff started airing? I sometimes hear 1994

18 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

September 2021 Episode Rankings
A total of 22 Episodes aired this Month
thanks @jcar03!

1.) Rena Sofer (Quinn Forrester) : 19
2.) Lawrence St.Victor (Carter Walton) : 17
3.) Thorsten Kaye (Ridge Forrester) : 16
*.) John McCook (Eric Forrester) : 16
5.) Tanner Novlan (Dr. John "Finn" Finnegan) : 15
*.) Jacqueline Maclnnes Wood (Steffy Forrester) : 15
7.) Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke Logan Forrester) : 12
8.) Heather Tom (Katie Logan) : 10
*.) Diamond White (Paris Buckingham) : 10
10.) Kimberlin Brown (Sheila Carter) : 9
11.) Delon de Metz (Zende Forrester Dominguez) : 4
*.) Denise Richards (Shauna Fulton) : 4
*.) Aaron D. Spears (Justin Barber) : 4
14.) Darin Brooks (Wyatt Spencer) : 3
15.) Scott Cliffton (Liam Spencer) : 2
*.) Annika Noelle (Hope Logan) : 2
*.) Lisa Canning (Dr. Griffith) : 2
*.) Jennifer Gareis (Donna Logan)  : 2
19.) Matthew Atkinson (Thomas Forrester) : 1
*.) Jackie Dallas (Paramedic) : 1
*.) Piper Harriot (Hayes Finnegan) : 1
*.) Thais Menendez (Nurse) : 1
*.) Edelyn Okano (Nurse Emily) : 1
*.) Henry Joseph Samiri (Douglas Forrester) : 1
*.) Emma Smith (Charlene) : 1 

Contract Stars Not Appearing this Month: 
1.) Katrina Bowen (Flo Fulton) 
2.) Don Diamont (Bill Spencer) 


 

Do u have the one for the whole of this year? Thanks 

5 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I always thought it was short sighted to kill Ivana even though it was a good story with Macy fighting Anthony for the gun..and Sally being shot.  

Mid 90s is the last time the show had multiple stories going on.  

I actually agree 1999-2002 was a good era but there was a lower attention span.

Does anyone have the full episode counts for this year, thanks.

What did you all think about the bold years 1994 and 1995? Do you think they were strong periods

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On 9/25/2021 at 6:40 AM, divinemotion said:

I think I want to see Eric experiencing anal sex while Quinn is doing him with a strap on.

It will be so groundbreaking and so modern.

They need to do it and then get cancelled. Finally.

Please God Cancel this disgusting show.

 

I would never wish cancellation on this show, there’s still 2 million who look forwar to watching this everyday. And there are actors who have jobs. I can campaign for improvement or stop watching but I don’t want it to be cancelled because I personally don’t enjoy it

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Mathew Atkinson is the strongest actor on bold under 40 he deserves so much better.