JackPeyton

I miss Heidi Muller, she really came a long way on Passions and i loved her as Kay, esp with Tabitha.

I seriously BOW to OC Queen Heather. Flawless.

I love it, she quit. Please, shes insane. She was fired and we all knew it before the reunion ever even taped.

Melissa has protected and defended Teresa more than she ever should have these past two seasons. Caroline, while hating her, was spot on when she said that Teresa never has anything nice to say about Melissa. Say what you will about the way Melissa got on the show, since shes been on she really has done little to nothing wrong. She forgives Teresa for every nasty thing she says and does and trys to move on and let it all go, but Teresa will never change because Teresa will forever be jealous of Melissa and that she has Joe's heart. Thats really all that is between them, him. And he picks his wife (as he should) and Teresa cant stand it and fulkes her hatred and jealousy more and more. Teresa was fine having nothing to do with Joe along as Melissa was his wife when she had friends, but once they wised up to her ways and pulled away or full on stopped taking to her she suddenly wanted Kathy & Melissa to be her friends. SHe is beyond fake and transparent. What really makes me hate her the most tho is watching her encourage and reward her husband for demeaning, disrespecting, and abusing her. I hope her daughters do not grow up to think this is ok and do not allow the same thing to happen to them. It is really very, very sad. Given all that Teresa has said and done to Melissa over the recent years I just can not believe that Saint Tre had absolutely nothing to do with setting Melissa up like this. I also really want to know what the deal is with the mic in the next epsiode, it sounds like Teresa forgets its on and they get her on some lies. I hope so. What Bravo needs to do with RHoNJ is really keep Mel & Tre and bring in all new women. None of their family or friends or any alliances bullshit. But all new people and see what happens. I say this as someone who really only has kept checking in with the series for the amazing Manzo family. But this group of women can not work together anymore. Clearly tho they are just going to cast teresa some friends (how sad & pathetic) and it will be great to see them turn on her after she screws them over too, because she will.

So she shouldnt tell her husband about what his sister did, despite the fact that everyone knew the next day? Just to protect Saint Teresa, who allegedly did no wrong?

Yes, exactly. Really though, at best she knew what was going down and didnt tell Melissa beforehand, At worst she set it all up (herself, with him, with producers, whatever). Teresa is the one who has made this an issue in the past and i find it impossable to believe she had nothing to do with it, but again Even Giving her all that belief, she did nothing to stop it or let Melissa know. Thats a shame too because damn is Melissa hasnt bent over backwards to make [!@#$%^&*] work with Teresa for her husbands sake.

Your right. Poor, innocent, helpless, blameless Saint Teresa who would NEVER utter a bad word let alone go after someone like her sister in law, the evil whore of new jersey aka Melissa. Listen, did Bravo set it up? Sure did. Did they do it alone? Doubtful. Did Teresa do anything to stop it? Nope.

Eh, i disagree with her attemps to stop it. She just got up and left the room to another room where she could still hear everything but gave her deniability. And honestly if she didnt know Kim was setting melissa up, shes a bigger freakin idiot than even I have been giving her credit for. So kim tells her she called Melissa despite trashing her all this time and invited her to the fashion show. Then this guy just magically appears and he used to be her boss at a strip club, mind you he shows up at the place where she is getting ready to go to the show with Kim? It aint rocket science. Its seriously basic. Like I said, assuming she had no part in it (...) she allowed it to happen. And the sad thing is if the roles were reversed, Melissa would have (likely) ended all conversation and if Kim kept going would have left and yes, i do think she would have told her right away. Even if Teresa really had nothing to do with it, it clearly gets blamed all on her and I dont feel bad for her at all. Shes done nothing but trash melissa and be fake to her and when you hang with trash like Kim, you get what you get.

Eh, having her back? im not sure where or how you saw that. She didnt want to hear anything more, thats it. She didnt put an end to the discussion, she didnt tell Melissa about it. They got ready for the fashion show and this dude showed up. Tre knows Kim and how she is. She knew he would be at the show and all of it and did nothing. Is it her fault? No, not really. But she didnt have anyones back except her own because now she can somewhat truthfully claim this isnt on her. And i am sure the PFS is fun for her, in all those years listed. Isnt this what she loves? Drama and conflict? it allows her to play victim. Thats what she always does. She never ownes anything, I tuned in this week after several weeks off, and man was it a chore to get through. Melissa and her fake ass career? Kathy and whatever that meeting was? Teresa being... Teresa? The only somewhat enjoyable moments was Ashleeeeee/Jaqui video chat and the lunch at the Manzo boys'.

I agree. Not to mention its too late to make it for this election. A lot of people have invalid or no ID's and I know in parts of CA it can take months to get a new one. I know a loot of elderly peopel with a old license that just expiring or is about to and they dont have the means/money or sometimes need/desire to get a new one. Also, while its awful to drink and drive and get a DUI and im not saying we should feel sorry for those who do, but in CA they take your license that day so does that mean one shouldnt get to vote? What about people who just moved to a new state and have to wait to get an ID? There are so many problems with it, but i do think it is fair to ask for ID and do that in the future. But what about absentee ballots? my god, what was he thinking? He looks absolutely gleeful like he just won or some [!@#$%^&*]. Yes to all of this.

This is a beautiful, spot on, perfect post that even Olivia Pope would applaud you on. Bravo. Now, I have to ask something... why would any minority or middle class person ever, ever even think about voting for Romney? I seriously am wondering this because wow does he seem awful and like the worst pick possible. I say this as an independent who voted for McCain last election.

Kill her? No. Have her leave town, yes

Worst. Character. In. Glee. History. And that is truly saying something.

who said it, i dont remember, i think vivia but it was spot on about how sonja and ramona didnt want any men because they didnt want any witness to their behaviour, and really if aviva hadnt taken such issue with it i doubt we would have seen a lot of it. i predict luanns last ditch effort to save her job worked, but only one of sonja or ramona will return next season.

exactly. its this they cant say "last night on the show you said this about me" but clearly thats a lot of the issues. i loved it when the hills Incorporated the media attention and show into the show, but they pulled it off well. this is just not.

the break between seasons really helps because even if its the exact same cast it feels fresh. I get doing it back to back because there was so much drama, but this is what happens when they film as a series airs. the egos becomes way too much.

Catching up- NJ: Nothing to say because I cant even force myself to watch this show anymore, though Teresa seems to be getting even more vile and disgusting with each episode from the promos. NY: Ramona & Sonja are white trash, honestly. A perfect phrase for them. While Aviva was overselling the thank you reid he is jesus mantra she kept spewing, ramona and sonja were already plotting on how to force him to leave and were very rude, but thats who they care. What says the most about them is the Carole thing, the onw-two of them not caring/realizing why she got upset at lunch as people are talking about crashes and about how they ditched her boyfriends concert, the entire reason for being here, to go get trashed and talk [!@#$%^&*] on everyone. I loved the way she just walked away from them. truly awful people. Heather is awesome too, love her. Miami: Zero interest.

grandparents rights, i actually have a lot of friends who have had their parents do this, they always lose.

I agree, however i also agree that its overwhelming the show. How do they show them living normal lives, when they dont tho? Its very much a catch-22. Like does Teresa even exist outside of being a star of the real housewives to follow around and film? I doubt it. This is really why a months long break is needed. They get a ton of hype and attention when the season is airing, so by the time this season kept on filoming and last season was going on the hype and attemtion they got is insane. They need months to decompress and get back to a somewhat normal life.

Ive never watched this show, but i saw clips online of Mercades McQueen, and I am in love with her. The promo for her wedding was amazing.

Teresa can not even keep her lies straight shes told so many and has so many going. Shes a disgusting, vile, hateful, selfish person. Her denying magazine deals as Joe confirms them was hilarious.

Thats so damn obnoxious when women do this. Aint no shame in being a grandma, embrace it, own it. Dont try to mask it and be cute & clever.

I agree with all of this, esp not feeling bad for Teresa. When you reward, defend, encourage shitty behavior, you get what you get to be honest. She isnt stuck in this, she chooses to be in it because she loves it: the drama, the attention, the pitty. She is as shitty of a person as he is and the only victims here are those poor kids.

Call your wife a retard and she begs you to have sex with her in public, on camera, during a birthday lunch. Only teresa. Shes disgusting and he is vile and they are perfect for eachother. Her defense of him in the tabloids is sick. Caroline knows who Teresa is and has her number. Next week looks good, but then again every promo looks good.

after how well her mini-show did and how different she is and distant with everyone, its time for Kim to get her spinoff.