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That was before Russ found out he was the father of Max, which changes everything. Russ wants to take care of Max, but Myra rudely told him in the hospital that she wants to do that and it's what, "Tina would've wanted." That kid belongs with Russ. Jacqui knew he was Russ' child but kept that a secret from Tony during the whole surrogacy fiasco. She let Tony and eveyone believe that Tina was carrying a child via Tony's sperm sample.

Yeah, Jacqui is going nuts, and I really felt bad for Carmel when Jacqui went off on her for not being upset with Myra for choosing them to die. Carmel might be the comedic "dumb blonde" of the bunch, but she's the McQueen with the purest heart and the best of intentions. Jacqui is the tough family oriented one, Mercedes is the unapologetic bitch, Michaela is the free-spirited one, and Tina was the book smart one. Oh, and Niall won't be back for now, but that was a great cliffhanger at the end of Tuesday's episode when Carmel answered the phone and was told that Niall's body wasn't recovered and that he's still out there. Niall will be on the late night Hollyoaks spin-off though, which will be premiering in November. After that, unless he comes back, he's gone for good.

QUOTE (Chris B @ Oct 21 2008, 04:08 PM) Can somebody tell me who this black girl with an afro is? I don't like her or Newt. That's Lauren, she's been on for a little over a year now. She's Calvin's half-sister. She's Leo Valentine's illegitimate child, who Clavin and Sasha didn't know about until she (along with her brother and Leo's other child Danny, whose gone now) showed up. They woke up together, but I really don't know. Ste started abusing Amy, one day he held her down with a pair of scissors and chopped off most of her hair.

Last week's episodes broke all sorts of records for E4 in the UK in terms of ratings this year. Looks like the storyline paid off very well.

That's Steph. Though Steph's brother, Craig, was dating Sarah when he was screwing his best friend John Paul. That's Becca. LOL

Hey Toups, Fabtasticalicious on YouTube has a playlist with Clare's 2007 storyline. It's stuff mainly from the middle of 2007 though, but I'm sure she'll be adding more soon. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E4...4907&page=1 She also has some stuff from as far back as 2005.

Bryan Kirkwood is only 31, and was 28 when he took over! That's the thing with the UK soap industry, they're always on the look out for fresh blood.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2008/10..._the_baton.html

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/hotshotsprod...9_producer.html

Yeah, Jacqui didn't know Tony was the father. She was initially upset when Mercedes told her about sleeping with Tony, but on Monday's show, Mercedes also tells her that she was pregnant and had an abortion from that one night stand with Tony. Yes.

Hollyoaks has been very consistent over the past two and a half years, and the show has always been youth-centered though, that was its original premise - a soap about youth and adolescence problems. Hollyoaks has always been the lighter, more warmer soap, which is appreciated. I do enjoy Corrie and EastEnders, but over the past two years, I've gone through the motions with those soaps. Corrie has been boring as hell for a good year now to me, and EastEnders is severely slipping in quality. I've never found Emmerdale watchable, but Hollyoaks has treated me very well in terms of building story and creating a great resolution over the past two and a half years, and as a soap fan, that's all I can ask for.

Thanks for the timeline! Even though she's been working on Hollyoaks for a while, I really a expect a shift in tone when Lucy Allan's episodes as producer starts to air. I really hope she doesn't get rid of any of the storyliners (which is doubtful). Kirkwood always had a clear vision for the show and everything was, for the most part, carefully planned and it showed on screen. That's all we can hope for.

Mercedes and Tony only slept together once, a year ago. Mercedes got pregnant, but had an abortion. Jacqui, of course, wanted the child because she can't have any. Anyway, Mercedes thought it would be too painful to have her sister raise her child with the man she cheated with. Gotta love the whore that Mercedes is. I love "Mercy," she's usually an unapologetic bitch who does things her own way, and she's hot.

Former Hollyoaks SW, Lucy Gough, explains the writing process: http://www.asax84.dsl.pipex.com/articles/hollyoaks.html

The producer both produces and comes up with storylines. He doesn't "write" them, the storyliners plot/structure them with his input. It's common for UK soaps to have 20 or so SW's. It works for them, but the producers and script editor's are very hands-on with the scripts and scriptwriter's. If you notice, there's very little, if any, continuity errors or characters changing their tones from script to script. These scripts are written months in advance, so the producers, storyliners, and editor's can judge them and make adjustments if they want. Even though everything passes through the producer and he/she can kill storylines if he/she wishes, anyone can contribute a storyline if they wish. Lyn Papadopoulos has done that a lot, and she's probably Hollyoaks' best scriptwriter, or the one most fans seem to love.

Somewhere next month, I'll post exact dates when I know exactly when. The producers and storliners generally come up with the storylines, the characters they want used, and what characters they want introduced. The producer, Bryan Kirkwood in Hollyoaks case (sigh, he'll be missed), comes up with storylines with his storyliners, and they plot them, and come up with something resembling an outline (very different from breakdowns from US soaps). Anyway, the scriptwriters meet with the producers and storyliners and they have to execute the outline they have. The scriptwriters write everything from the dialogue to the scenes themselves. UK soaps are more of a collaborative process as well. Anyone can pitch a story idea, the scriptwriters are always welcomed to contribute. There's no "Head Writer," it's more of a group effort. There's a script editor as well, who checks for errors in continuity and all the usual stuff script editors do.

I believe he's supposed to be in the limited late night spin-off. I think that spin-off takes place in another universe though, kind of like what Night Shift Season One was to GH. I'm not sure though. Everything lately has me wondering if they're planning Clare's return. She's the only one besides Louise and Calvin that knows Warren killed Sean (Louise's ex-husband). She also has a lot to settle with Warren and Justin, and she could still kill Tom if she wants. LOL! Also, Hollyoaks tends to introduce their villians in the final months of the year. Clare left in September 2007, and Niall popped up not long after that. Yes, they shoot like film, but they shoot their stuff like 2-3 months in advance before it airs.

http://www.myparkmag.co.uk/articles/televi...ed-mcqueen.html

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/m...arrysloane.html

Did anyone find some things unintentionally funny (or maybe the writers wanted us to laugh in some serious moments). Like when Tony and Dom were trying to get into the church and couldn't and Dom says, "Oh God, Please let us in!" His delivery made me laugh. And then when John Paul, Myra, and Niall were trapped together, and John Paul only wanted to save Myra, but she insisted he save Niall as well. John Paul tells Myra, "But he killed Kieron!" Myra then tells John Paul, "And he'll go to prison for that!" A few seconds after saying how she doesn't want one of her sons killing the other mind you and her delivery also made me laugh.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Showbiz/Bar...il/article.html

Niall asked Myra 6 questions (the number of children she has, exclusing himself). She answered 4 wrong. For every question she got wrong, one of the McQueen children would die. John Paul and Mercedes volunteered to go first. Niall then forced Myra to pick two others, and she picked Jacqui and Carmel. I guess she didn't pick Michaela because she's the youngest one and didn't pick Tina because she's a new mother.

OMG, this week was GREAT! Thursday and Friday's episodes are can't miss. Niall is a really sick bastard, but I couldn't help but feel sorry for him when he was in the church with all the McQueen's telling them about how lonely his childhood was and how he didn't feel anything growing up and how being left in the church as a baby scarred him for life. And it ties nicely into the Jack storyline, as Jack was responsible for sending Niall's father to jail, where he later died. It was nice that Jack risked prison by exposing his identity in public in order to save the McQueen's. The bomb explosion was very well-done as well. It created lots climaxes and revelations. Mercedes finally admitted to Jacqui that she has a one night stand with Tony a year ago, and John Paul's being held captive was a surprise. Then there's Tina dying in Dominic's arms and telling him to tell her baby when he grows up that she loved him. I like how Tina and Dom resolved some things in that moment... And then there's the Friday cliffhanger where it looks like Niall survived when we see his reflection at the end. I have a feeling there's lots more to come from this story. Oh and, when Niall told Myra to choose which children to kill, it had to hurt that she technically chose Jacqui and Carmel, even if she was under pressure. That's sure to create more tension.

^LOL! You know, I've always thought Emmerdale might be the one UK soap that could catch on in America. Mainly because of its sometimes deeply sensationalistic/ridiculous storytelling. Anyway, I'd like to thank Bryan Kirkwood for 3 amazing years at Hollyoaks. He revived a show that had crappy actors, directionless storylines, and declining ratings and made it something truly special. He was able to get this show taken seriously again, and he created storylines that were powerful and riveting. Whatever he does next, I'll be following him. It's because of him I fell in love with Hollyoaks, and I'll never forget that. I can't help by think that Lucy Allan will start off promising but screw everything up. I hope I'm wrong of course, but it's going to be hard following Bryan Kirkwood.

I heard ITV and Granada wanted him for Corrie a year or so ago, but he refused to leave Hollyoaks. I don't know how true that is, but he would be a good addition to Corrie again, especially if he were allowed to run the show.