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13 minutes ago, Bright Eyes said:
Speculation time: If Michael Easton is leaving as is rumoured and certainly hoped for, I'm guessing after Gregory dies, Alexis will stop him from succumbing to his alcohol addiction and they'll end up either kissing or hooking up. Being the kind of man he is, he'll tell Elizabeth the truth, she'll end things between them, and he'll leave Port Charles with Violet. Nicely, I do think he was trying his best today and was quite good for him.
Agree another great episode.
About ME, I have noticed 2 things in the past 4 days.
First, he got a haircut!
Second, he's actually better.
4 hours ago, ranger1rg said:Who the hell put Carly in that baby blue housedress today?
She did not look good in whatever that was. Calling her matronly would be kind.
Obviously lots of what we like & don't like is subjective. I really think that hair & clothes may be the most subjective of all. I was watching live, in a Jarly Zoom & her outfit today was met with great adulation!
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50 minutes ago, carolineg said:
I haven't seen the show yet and won't for a few hours, but what a weird trajectory for Sasha to go from a model to a Quartermaine Cook lol. No one would do that in life ever and she mentioned she liked to cook approx. two weeks ago. I feel like she's as good as gone once the Cody/Mac reveal finally plays out.
I mean, how good was that shepherd's pie?!!!!
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3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
Sasha, Finn, Molly to name a few.
Sasha and Finn need to go and Molly needs to be recast.
Before the new writers came on I made a personal cut list. Sasha, Finn & Gregory were all on it. But, now I find I don't need it, not like I did. I cannot exactly explain.
About FinalMolly, agree to disagree. I think Varganos is very good.
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6 minutes ago, John said:
I actually like Gregory and Gregory Harrison in the role. I like him with Tracy as well and will miss him when he leaves.
Its the whispering MB does that I find distracting
Whisper speaking bugs the whatsit out of me no matter who is doing it!
6 minutes ago, John said:I think Ava may want his territory and get back in the mob
I agree. I definitely think that is the direction they are writing her in. Former mob princess, member of mob family, attracted to the dark side, all of that power, .... but I think she's fallen for him which she did not mean to do. Can't forget her sniffing his cologne in that "powder room" bathroom that Mo has.
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3 minutes ago, John said:
4.26.2024
HW: Patrick Mulcahey & Elizabeth Korte
BDW: Suzanne Flynn
SW: Scott Sickles
DIR: Jillian DeDotte
Today was amazing
I loved Laura. GF was so good and spot on with Sonny
I am not sure why MB still whispers & mumbles
You know that they say (the ubiquitous "they") that he is in fact now having much more trouble remembering lines. Seemingly it was always hard for him but now he is regularly being less successful. So, posturing & mumbling could be his way of stalling or covering that he's not got the words he's meant to be saying ready to say them?
3 minutes ago, John said:What is Ava's end game here?
Is she not telling him about the meds situation because she wants to try to figure out who is behind it, first?
3 minutes ago, John said:The whole Gregory talk with Him & Tracy and Finn and Alexis was also so good & true to life
I actually like Sasha being the new cook for the Q's
The Carly/Nina talk was almost civil with good points
Jane Elliott, Genie Francis & Gregory Harrison were the standouts today
Agree about the day but I think NLG had a good day, too, both with Molly & with Finn.
4 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:No it wasn't.
Okay, I'll bite. What did you dislike?
11 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:I just don’t care about this equally boring Gregory ALS story…
I'm more tolerant now for 2 reasons: the overall better writing & the feeling that he will die soon.
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3 hours ago, carolineg said:
SoapHub just had an article about Vanessa Marcil returning because Lois made an offhand comment alluding to Brenda the other day. It had no basis in fact and was all for clicks. The entire story was built around that one line of dialogue lol. SoapHub is awful.
They have a new Editor-in-Chief over there. Before Diane left, she expressed to me in email very serious frustration with things going on, etc. And I keep seeing new names - not Alina Adams, not Mike Maloney & not Janet Di Lauro. And I keep seeing crap!
3 hours ago, carolineg said:Esme's story is complete. Sure, Ace is around, but wouldn't Esme get arrested if she ever reappeared? I suppose the door is open for a return later on, but I see no need for her anytime soon. Characters need to continue to leave the canvas. We don't need to bring more back.
My understanding is that they have no intention of bringing either her back or any Spencer back. Obviously that is the kind of thing that could change. But they are not part of status quo. Avery's very talented & I could imagine some show hiring her.
I took some notes on the Steve/Bradford podcast. I'm excited that he said they are not being in such a rush, taking more time when taping.
Daily Drama podcast 4-25-24
Steve: lots of cool things going on with the new writers, who have been with the show for ages. ... Big groups of people again. ... Longer scenes ... used to have 1-2 pages, now 6. ... With the shorter scenes you're not building anything. With the longer scenes you're actually building things. We need this relationally (? unsure of word he used) There's a very nostalgic feel to these changes, the way we used to do things & also not so rushed. ... more time is being taken.
... Carly is brought up by Bradford ...
B: Is Jason in love with Carly? Is he going to make a play for her? I'm sure there is more that could be said ...
S: Yeah, there's more to come on that. I can't really say anything.
S: The base relationship we know.
B: Is it familial?
S: Oh, god, no.
S: Something is being said that I'm calling BS on. If this had happened to Sam, to Liz, or to Sonny, I would have done the same thing. (Protecting them as he is protecting Carly.) We know that it is in my character that I would do this for any of these people if they were in the legal situation Carly is in.
S: About deadbeat dad: Who do these kids need more? Their mothers or me? Their mothers!
S: Jason has an emotional connection with Carly. Some might even say that he is loyal to her, to a fault.
B: But, is he in love with her?
S: We were going to get married! Because of our feelings for each other, yes, but also for other reasons as it would be best for other people, too, if we were a married couple.
S: Something about people know we crossed that line.
Baseline: Jason always shows up for Carly.
B: What if Carly got involved with Jagger? Would that be a problem for Jason?
S: YES! That would be a problem to Jason's way of thinking about things. He might have to make Jagger disappear. Wait, I don't even know if Jason does that anymore.
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9 minutes ago, Aragorn said:
We were told that Avery Pohl was let go from the show just to accommodate NAC's vacation. If NAC is gone for good, then I feel better.
Okay, I never heard or read that. Is that something she said? If not, do you know who said it? I ask because going by what I know was said, (that she said, etc.) that makes no sense LOL! Allow me to try to explain why I think that does not track. She was given the heads-up that they were going to be letting her go 6 months before the time they cut her loose. They do give people "early warning" sometimes. My understanding of why they let her go was because they did not want to redeem her because they liked her as a villain. It's not clear whether they were testing to see if the amnesia would be an effective way to moderate that character or if it was just one long stall until they reached the point on the calendar when they were ready to cut her loose.
Thanks for the reply.
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5 hours ago, Aragorn said:
I am a fan of Avery Pohl and was upset that she was let go but knowing that NAC is not returning is like victory to me.
I'm quite curious as to what you mean by this. Thanks.
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On 4/23/2024 at 7:34 PM, kalbir said:
That I don't know, but I am pretty sure it's been verified here that Robert Calhoun left by his own choice. AFAIK he didn't EP any other show after GL.
GL being a more community-based show (at least in the early 1990s I thought it was) needed to have an anchor/tentpole character to keep things grounded, and JFP didn't realize that.
Calhoun was a Director first. AW was one show he directed. Then EP at ATWT & then EP at GL. You are correct that he didn't show any work after GL. His partner was Farley Granger who was a very famed actor in 7 different decades beginning with the studio system, going through the Playhouse 90 era, doing Broadway & finally ending up on a soap, ATWT. Calhoun & Granger wrote a book together about Granger's life, called Include Me Out: My Life from Goldwyn to Broadway © March 2007. They were notable because they were living openly as a gay couple before most anyone else was out of the closet. Granger claimed he had never been in the closet. He was open about being bisexual decades before most people had even heard of being bisexual. Before meeting Calhoun he had relationships with very famous people, going from Leonard Bernstein to Barbara Stanwyck, etc. at one point. The book is available in kindle, HB & PB editions.
These are the credits I have for Calhoun but going by what you've posted here these dates are wrong. As you might know about me, this annoys me no end! I'm going to try to correct these dates. Any information you can provide will be appreciated.
He won an Emmy for Best Show for ATWT. He got 3 more nods for ATWT. He got 2 nods for AW. And, he got another 2 nods for GL. He was a very serious & celebrated part of P&G NY soap history.
IMDb: ATWT P, SP, EP 1984-1990; GL Assoc. D 1984, P, EP 1983-1991; AW D 1979, P 1980-1981; TEX D 1981, P 1981-1982
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2 hours ago, Antoyne said:
I’m a few episodes behind but I’m just amazed still that this show has so many sets, that Sonny even has a freaking bathroom.
Also I find it amusing that both of Steve Burton’s characters airing on Days and GH despite having jobs and money, live above a pub/diner in a single room
That is amusing! And they each know a woman named Ava. Both also have left arms of new ink!
About TJ, I am about to suggest to him that he take a big running jump off of a cliff!
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7 minutes ago, slick jones said:
No matter which screen name you go by, I recall the nasty post directed at me by you under an alternate name. Your prose is easily recognizable. If the tin hat fits, you should wear it. I believe you swore you would never post here again, then started a thread six hours later.
The poster wasn't bullying anyone, he was stating what he saw while on the set. You and the girl from Ferris Bueller
are quite the pair. choosing to put @TEdgeofNight down - just because you don't like them.
Perhaps you mean me. I can't really tell. But, if you do mean me, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! I asked a specific question, a question I am endeavoring to find information about. Show me where I put anyone down here, now. You cannot because I did not.
But as for liking or disliking that person, are you kidding me?! That person has dogged me all over this site, personally attacking me over & over again for years. They have even followed me off of this site to other sites & started up there. Yes, they give themselves away by their posting style. This person was told months ago by an Admin to put me on Ignore & not to engage with me, period. They never for even one week stopped their attacks. Maybe you need to come into contact with some facts before you make accusations.
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This is something that I typed up out of a soap mag. I don't think I have posted it here. If I did I apologize for duplicating.
As Told To Douglas, J. (1982). Jane & Jerry: Their Lives & Loves. Soap Opera Digest, 7(16), 18–25.You Asked For It -- You Got It!A Thought-Provoking Conversation with JANE ELLIOT & JERRY VerDORN(Carrie & Ross, "Guiding Light")If our mail at Soap Opera Digest is any indication, teaming up Jane Elliot & Jerry VerDorn was a real stroke of genius on the part of "Guiding Light's" head writer, Doug Marland. In the year since Carri & Ross fell in love, their tear-jerking romance has captivated the hearts of millions of viewers & they've become one of daytime's most popular couples.Since we're received countless letters from our readers clamoring for a feature on Jane & Jerry, we caught the "dynamic duo" on a recent day off for this exclusive interview. Enjoy!JD: You have become one of GL's most popular couples -- are you pleased with your storyline?Jane: I think what is so extraordinary is that we haven't said the same thing twice in a year. Our characters have covered more territory in a year than most characters do in 2 or 3 years. There's always a new challenge in our scripts. It's been wonderful & Jerr'ys a blessing to work with.Jerry: My storyline has been a challenge. As the storyline progressed, I suddenly became a reactor & Jane became the more active one, which is quite difficult to act. It has been tough but I think the stoyline has been successful in terms of credibility.Jane: One of the joys of working closely with someone you respect & trust & depend on is that you get to create together ... you dream up things together. When I first joined the show I was asked why our scenes always look so different from other people's & it's because we work at it. When you're putting that kind of effort into your work, you see a "layering" & a "coloring" to our relationship that other couples don't get because they are too busy thinking about their personal lives & not their acting. Acting is the break from your real life. Why would you want to sit & think about your bills when you could be pretending to be somebody else?Jerry: In terms of work, I haven't acted with someone who's had as much enthusiasm as I've had. Jane works as hard as I do. When the camera rolls, she hears what I say & I hear what she says. We listen to each other. We're able to play off each other without taking away the main thrust of the scene.JD: If you could write your own storylines, what would you do with your characters?Jane: I don't think I could come up with anything better than Doug Marland has given me. I have such confidence in him as a writer & as a friend that I don't think about what I'd like to see happen to Carrie. I spend my time thinking about what is happening to her.Jerry: Awhile ago, Ross was supposed to go into politics & I sorta regret that didn't happen. I thought that would have been an interesting storyline. I don't think much about what they're going to do with Ross but I would like to see him intelligently resolve his Howdy-Doody syndrome. Carrie is everything he wants in a woman, so, he's at a point now where he's doing everything he can to support, help & make the marriage work. I'd like to see Ross come out of this & not look like a sucker.JD: Are you happy with the overall direction "Guiding Light" is heading in? There have been so many changes ...Jane: It's very exciting to be on "Guiding Light" now & be part of something that's on the way up. Everything everybody says to us about this show is wonderful! I feel I''ve gotten my comepuppance for everybody who was snide to me about leaving "General Hospital" (on which she played devious Tracy Quartermaine) when it was at the top & coming to a 4th rated show. I believed in this show& felt strongly it was a very smart move for me to come to "Guiding Light." It was not a stupid move, as so many people tried to tell me. All the changes in "Guiding Light" have paid off.Jerry: I'm very pleased with the way the show is going & I'm from the old group, you know. I think there's a thread that runs through our show. I don't know where it comes from.Jane: I'll tell you where it comes from -- Charita Bauer (Bert). The Bauer family has always been the focal point of this show. Charita is the mainstay & always has been. Even though she's been playing her part for over 30 years, she never went to sleep. When you have an attitude like that at the top, there's a role model for everybody to follow. If Charita can keep her enthusiasm, commitment & vitality after 30 some-odd years, who the hell am I not to?Jerry: I think Charita's enthusiasm reflects in the ratings. "Guiding light" has always managed to hold its own. This show has never had change for change's sake.JD: What about the rumors that "Guiding Light" may move to California soon?Jane: It's more than just a rumor. It's a question of economics. It is much cheaper to produce television in Califorina than it is in New York, there's more space; there are more facilities. The most vulnerable shows right now are Procter & Gamble's CBS shows. The thought of pulling this kind of creative outlet out of New York terrifies me, because this city has precious few places for an actor to work. Since I have a home in both Los Angeles & New York, it makes no difference to me if we move to California. I love working on both coasts.Jerry: I'll go for an enormous amount of money! (laughs) I'd go for awhile but I don't like the physical layout of Los Angeles; I don't like being tied to a car. If I had my druthers, we'd be doing all the soaps in Manitoba!JD: How is "Guiding Light" different from all the other soaps?Jane: Well, it has maintained the original reason why soap opera became so popular: it's an intimate melodrama. Your heart gets touched. There's a lot of romance on our show. The audience likes to watch people in love meet a problem & deal with it. Doug Marland is doing some new & innovative things that people have never seen before. The fantasies are wonderful & so is the live-action disco. The bottom line is a marriage of good material & good actors. That's magic & always has been.Jerry: Brilliant material & actors is an unbeatable combination & I feel we've got a high percentage of both. We should go a long way with what we've got. Since we're happy at the studio - our second home - there's a great deal of whimsy & humor on the set & in our scenes. I see a distinct lack of humor on the other shows. Human beings like to laugh & they do it all the time in all kinds of situations -- even really desperate ones. Compared to our show, I find the other soaps barren sometimes when it comes to humor.JD: Why do you think soaps became so popular?Jane: "General Hospital" brought in an audience that had never watched daytime before to the degree that they are today (the college students), then nightime TV latched onto serials. And once you start putting major stars on daytime, it gives the medium credibility. It's now socially acceptable to admit that you watch soap operas.Jerry: The fact that soap actors are on 5 days a week has a lot to do with it, because the audience has made an investment in the characters. They care so much more about you than they would about a fellow they see once a week at night. The audience gets attached.JD: How do you answer people who still put the soaps down?Jane: That hasn't happened to me. Soaps are changing. Usually somebody who doesn't want to deal with emotionality in his or her own life won't watch it on television. There are people who don't want to deal with intimate feelings -- they'd much rather see a car chase. Some people don't want to deal with the realities of love & hate, frustration & illness, joy & fulfillment & goals -- that's what soaps are about. I think soaps are realistic -- certainly closer to reality than the "Dukes of Hazzard."Jerry: I'd say that soaps are a realistic melodrama & ask what they find silly about them. When someone puts soaps down, it's usually someone who hasn't seen them recently. Every time I watch "Dukes of Hazzard" or "CHIPS," it makes me doubly proud to be on a soap. We look like Shaw compared to that. Some people may think the soap format is silly & that's their opinion. If you step back & look at soaps objectively, they are rather silly. But, I happen to think "Fantasy Island" is rather silly, too. A lot of tragedies & unreal things have to happen on a soap for the show to progress. That makes for good drama. If you think that's silly, there's no arguing with you. You want nothing to happen? That's silly, too.JD: Where are you hoping your careers will go after you leave "Guiding Light" someday?Jane: I want more of the same. I was not a salable commodity in my twenties & had a hard time getting work. The older I become, the more work there is for me & my kind of woman. I just love to act & I don't care where it is that I'm doing it or in what medium. There's always something to learn, always something to strive for & get a good grip on.Jerry: I'd like to do regional theatre again. Before I joined "Guiding Light," I'd done nothing but plays for about 15 years. I want to do the classics -- Shaw & Shakespeare. I miss performing before a live audience. I'd also like to do primetime for a while -- shows like "M*A*S*H" and "Taxi."JD: Have the things you've wanted in your lives come easily to you or have you had to struggle for them?Jane: I've struggled for everything I've ever gotten in my life & people never think that of me. They think I plopped into this earth at the age of 35, pleased with myself, with money in the bank, a husband who loves me, a wonderful acting role, 2 nice homes, etc. I don't remind everybody that I really deserve what I've got because I've suffered & paid my dues to get here. I spend my time enjoying what I have. You get out of life what you put into it. I've put a lot into it.Jerry: When I first came to New York, I had 9 months of unemployment & I worried how I was going to pay the rent with my wife's $100-a-week paycheck. Sometimes you wonder if it's going to go on like that forever. When you look back, though, it really wasn't that difficult. After I met my wife, Beth, my professional and personal lives became less of a struggle. She stabilizes me.JD: Do you have a particular philosophy that you live by?Jane: When all is said & done, I work to please myself in whatever it is that I'm doing. It is my belief that the only person you can really know & understand & trust & count on is yourself. The more you work to please yourself, the more clarity you give the world around you & the more people will know where they stand with you. When you try to please somebody else or second-guess what their needs are, you always run into trouble.Jerry: I was brought up on the work ethic. At home the attitude was we don't care what you do as long as you do it well & work as hard as you can. That really became ingrained in me, so I put a lot of faith in it. I think it's gotten me where I am. I've always worked my tail off.JD: Do you ever find it difficult combining a career with marriage? Are there any conflicts?Jane: Not yet. Jerry & I are both blessed with partners who, bottom line, really love us. My husband & Jerry's wife can watch Carrie & Ross freely loving each other & still stay confident in their own relationships & that's very special. We don't go home & pay for Carrie & Ross' love. Because we have extraordinary mates, we're more mentally healthy, I think. Since I have a relationship of my own that's as supportive & encouraging as the relationship I have with Ross, I have something to draw on.Jerry: There were conflicts when my time was at a premium a few years ago. I was doing one Broadway show & understudying another. I was constantly on edge.Jane: But that's not peculiar to acting. That happens in any business, I think. No matter what you're doing, there will be heavy stress points in your work & then there are times when the work is not that demanding. Beth & my husband, Luis (who is a videocamera man on "All My Children"), have a strong understanding of the demands on us & a great deal of respect. Beth is proud of Jerry's career & it's the same with Luis.JD: What do you like most about being in show business? What least?Jane: I love working & I hate not working. Acting is a wonderful thing to do for a living. You are given license to completely forget about yourself & pretend to be someone else & this somebody else doesn't have any of your restrictions & rules. The show you're doing is the pleasure & the business is the hard part. You have to be an emotional chameleon. You have to be hard & tough to be able to deal with walking out on the stage. But when you walk into an office & somebody hands you a script, you're supposed to be an emotional, pliable thing. It's a paradox, a very difficult thing to come to grips with when you first get into this business.Jerry: What I like most is working. What I like least is that there are more actors than jobs. I enjoy going to work. People in this world who get up & want to go to their jobs are rare. I still love doing "Guiding Light" after 3 years with the show.0 -
1 minute ago, janea4old said:
I am a Trina fan *and* a Laura fan (I can be both)
and I was *very* irritated with Laura's support of Esme.
It felt very disrespectful of Spencer and of Trina.
That bothered me even more that her concern for Cyrus or Heather.110% I totally agree with every word of this.
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10 minutes ago, Vee said:
There's a bunch of people who apparently think Laura's gotta go for being there for Heather. I don't!
Geeze Louise, how awful. I have not seen or heard of this.
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49 minutes ago, John said:Spoiler
Gio Cerullo is 18 & definitely not for Trina.
One thing Dan & Chris tended to isolate Trina to a very specific zone. She could have scenes with Joss, with Spencer & with Ava & be at the gallery & with her family. But that was all. Having her go to Brook Lynn's bach/bridal shower is something new which may signal that PM/EK are going to be broadening her horizons & as a character that should be excellent for her. But, don't mind me. I'm TrinaFF. I want her to have friends, associates, her own story perhaps & a new boyfriend later on this year. I hope what John posted above will come to be.
I'm somewhat concerned because a portion - not all - of SprinaNation is currently campaigning that Sprina MUST continue & there HAS TO BE either NAC or a recast Spencer immediately. Shades of the strident Danny & Michelle fanbase at GL which indirectly caused the show to write Danny, Michelle & their son Robby off the show!
Laura, specifically is a bone of contention for some SprinaNation fans. Laura knew Trina & knew how important she was to Spencer. (Many of Spencer's friends & family did not know Trina.) And she never expressed condolences to Sprina. Those fans were shocked that Laura didn't go over to Trina at the funeral.
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22 minutes ago, John said:
Another really Good episode
Loved Trina with Laura, Ace & TJ
Laura and Ava were good and not how the preview set it up
Looks like Kristina's eyes are opening a bit
Agree, etc. Now, today, Jason & Sonny was whoa! And, Kirissy is leaning over into exploration like crazy. PLus, Brook Lynn talking to Alison about Blaze coming out! What a day. Baby Ace was icing.
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Having been personally on the set of GL in 1982, there was better drama off screen than on. I first hand witnessed Jane Elliot and her shenanigans that got her fired. Allen Potter was not wrong. He nipped it in the bud. It lead to Doug leaving but Jane was indeed a handful. Even our beloved Jerry ver Dorn referenced it in his last interview on The Locher Room. Jane was not easy to work with. Far from it. I believe the cast cheered when they heard she left the show
Has anyone else heard anything even remotely like this?
I've just re-listened to these Locher Rooms & they say nothing like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl28kyJncR4&t=1821s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiRC6jrryNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcXPSd5c0hA&t=3466s
Now, here Alan asked about the storyline. One other person said something highly complimentary about Jane Elliot. Jerry didn't say yea nor nay about her. Said it was Douglas Marland's version of "Two Faces of Eve" & that Jane played his wife. Question: What do you remember about it? I remember being stupid. I told myself I was so wrapped up in my work that I didn't notice these things. She killed people & I come home, Hi, honey, killed anyone today? Or she'd have on like 5 times makeup on steroids & I didn't even blink. We would say that he had to be dumbed down to make the story work. And he said We made it work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOaKVO756c&t=2685s
Okay, just finished re-listening to this one. A very brief bit about having to be dumbed down to make the storyline work but nothing derogatory in any way about Jane Elliot. And, this seems to be the last.
So, we know that the bolded statement above is untrue. Jerry verDorn did not make a negative reference about Jane Elliot on a Locher Room zoom chat.
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3 minutes ago, DeliaIrisFan said:
Oh, right. I saw some of those clips from the strike (I think?). So it's even more bizarre that Ned disappeared for eons and his first scenes back were at his future son-in-law's bachelor party, as opposed to with his daughter, the bride-to-be.
I'm probably the only person bothered but he had on one of those 'Neddie plaid shirts.
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5 minutes ago, carolineg said:
I am not really surprised. Finola probably just likes working with JPS. From what I have seen they have always been quite complimentary of one another. I don't take that as a sign the show will pair them again.
Me, too.
5 minutes ago, carolineg said:I recall hearing Charlotte was getting help, but I find it weird she just entirely disappeared for most of the fallout. Again, I am not complaining nor do I need Charlotte period, but the show did seem to be setting her and Jake up as a couple and the Victor "brainwashing"/tarot cards/letters stuff seemed to all be quickly dropped.
We also never see Georgie and I thought she was being set up for the teen scene as well. All those boys need at least one girl to go after. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if Emma was brought back.
Agree. Charlotte vanishing was odd but I suppose it falls under the "New Writers" heading. Girls are currently badly underrepresented & I would love having Emma back! I don't have a feeling about Georgie. My main memory of her was them moving heaven & earth & getting planes or boats to get her to be with Spinelli on a holiday. Incredible waste of a script. Enjoyed seeing Ellie.
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1 hour ago, carolineg said:
I feel like after this whole Pikeman arc is over that Valentin might go. He's just not very connected to the canvas, Charlotte is off somewhere, he has no love interest or family, and he rarely appears.
I was surprised to hear Finola (Nominee Zoom last week) say that she & JPS hope that Vanna will be back together soon. The last I recall it was said that Charlotte was off somewhere in a private hospital recuperating. I have trouble picturing Anna forgiving him.
Tomorrow is Episode 30 for PM/EK & also the first day of Sweeps. I always like it when I feel GH wins Sweeps. I detested that May when the 2 big events were protecting Marshall's clarinet in a rumble in an alley & Brando & Sonny changing the spark plugs on a classic car! I figure the judging of the "New Writing" will automatically become more important. By the fans, yes, but also by their bosses. It's also Taggert MIA Day 202 but clearly only a handful of fans care. I realized I forgot one rumor I've heard & it is the only one that is likely to be true.
SpoilerSupposedly Dan O'Connor is suing the show.
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3 minutes ago, carolineg said:
I have to completely disagree.
Fortunately, this is a posture that is totally acceptable for soap fans.
3 minutes ago, carolineg said:... And, yeah, 5 million isn't chump change, but Carly didn't earn that money herself.
Nina is totally lock, stock & barrel the product of major inheritance. Her inheritance was so massive that her pitiful excuse for a mother nearly killed her trying to get it for herself.
3 minutes ago, carolineg said:Nina does whine a bunch too and generally does impulsive and stupid things, but she's not worse than Carly at this point. One of Carly's main characteristics is she's impulsive too. The difference is Nina gets vilified by the entire town every time she makes a mistake. I find Nina mostly pathetic, but I certainly don't think Carly's is much superior to her.
And, I offer here to agree to disagree.
One thing that Carly did was to make it possible for Sonny to seem to be this remarkable family man. But it's Carly who is really good with kids and also with other people.
I believe that aspect of Sonny is something PM/EK is going to take away. Sonny can be the mobster but he's losing that heart of gold crap & also isn't going to be wandering around town giving sage advice!! (Hated that!)
The only other thing I want to say is thank Soap Jesus that Jane Elliot found she needed insurance. Apparently that's why she came out of retirement, as others have done before her. Now I think she is staying because she's having fun playing this Tracy but something had to get her there!
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13 minutes ago, carolineg said:
No one was ever even mad at her about either of those things though lol. Only Nina. Willow was mad for 5 minutes. And Insider trading is illegal. Sure, she lost the Metro Court for a bit, but it's not like she actually went to prison. Nina was made to look like the bad guy for reporting a crime. Neither Jason or Sonny actually died. Look, I like Carly much more than I like Nina, but the writing is almost entirely favorable for Carly.
Every loss Carly has suffered the last few years except the loss of her mother has mostly been her fault. Even when Carly is "down and out" there are a line of people willing to help her out. If I am at the point where I am defending Nina, of all people, you know the writing is slanted.
Nina & Carly are written totally differently, to me, in one major way.
Carly never feels sorry for herself (or if she does, she does it in private & never lets anyone see) & she is not one to whine, nor is she one to go on & on & on about things. To a very large degree, she operates as a survivor, just putting one foot in front of the other & repeating until either she is busy & engaged in doing something or the situation changes & usually for the better. Carly also doesn't blame other people. She owns her sh*t. In most cases that would give her rootabiity but somehow it doesn't except for many people, like me, who are Carly fans. What Jason said about her resilience is very true to her character. And 5 mil is not chump change.
Nina constantly whines, regularly feels sorry for herself, ALWAYS blames someone else - usually Carly - and goes on & on & on about things endlessly & worst of all she says she never intended any harm to come & then she turns around & does the same thing or something similar over again. Only Ava tells her the truth & chastises her for not THINKING through things instead of just impulsively taking action! (I love Cynthia Watros but it is impossible to me, to like Nina!)
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38 minutes ago, Taoboi said:
I mean wasn't it made clear that we found out who did that? Though it might have been rewritten by this point.
If so, I totally missed it. AFAIK we know it wasn't a stranger since Austin recognized them & it seemed to be a male going only by shoes. Who are you thinking of? I suspected both Brennan & Valentin being behind it but not carrying it out.
10 minutes ago, carolineg said:Carly always had to be 'right'.
Carly was wrong two huge times in the past year. Willow - illegal DNA test & keeping it from everyone that Nina was her bio-mother and Insider Trading. In both instances of her being wrong it was amazingly public.
And Carly suffered significant losses in the past 2 years. Metro Court, Sonny when he died, Jason when Sonny reappeared alive, Sonny when he had sex with Nina on The Haunted Star, paid a 5 mil fine, Bobbie died & Drew dropped her at the first sight of Jason.
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What I was told by a soap journo who covered it at the time is that old story. There were things she wanted to write but they did not want her to write them. In similar fashion they named things they wanted her to write but she told them that they were impossible & no one could write them. At which point they said that was why they hired her because they thought she could write these stories that no one else could. So they were stuck. The elusive green light.