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Sure. You talk, I'll read and make faces you'll never see and you can feel good about whatever you said and never know or care if I questioned your sanity. That sounds perfect right?????

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So it wasn't the Denver altitude like Al Gore said? Not that it matters to me.

I think it's quite sad.

So what are you saying? Are you saying you don't appreciate the way those very special people express their concern? Are you certain it's only been six years because he seems like the perpetual candidate? I know it has to be longer than that.... I just know it.

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Both of you have me laughing. Wildcard teams are the ones that do not win their respective divisions but have the next best record. Major League Baseball has a National League and an American League. Prior to this season, there was only one wildcard team per division. This season to "bring more drama and excitement" to the playoffs, an extra wildcard team was added to each division. Today the wildcard teams from both leagues have a playoff game to determine which wildcard team advances to the 'real" playoffs to face a division leader. This is more information than you probably wanted to know but maybe someone will find it helpful.

I know I'm an idiot (albeit an awesome one in my mind) so I guess "modern memory" is some sort of reference to your own memory. Otherwise I'd take this about as seriously as I take Reince Priebus claiming that pedestrian debate was historic. Sports is full of hyperbole but analysts claiming today is historic in baseball because of the first MLB wildcard playoff games rings a lot truer to someone like me.

I'm another one of those people who pretends to know what other people are thinking only I know I am better at it but I would never be caught saying that I think that way because I only speak for myself.... So my take is that it benefits him because some of those voters who were not going to vote for him or were wavering because of certain differences, are now likely to change their minds because the media is on his case. He's a sympathetic character for now.

If you're a Democrat or a Republican then you weren't the target viewer of yesterday's debate. Republicans are doing cart wheels as if they won the election yesterday....it was a debate and there is plenty of time between the last debate and the election for Mitt Romney's foot to go back in his mouth and people aren't going to sit around and say "oh he just said something stupid but he won the debates." They'll remember whatever he said plus they'll have plenty of reminders of the other things he's said. Democrats seemed to be split between those who think he should have brought a sledgehammer to the debate and gone into attack mode. That may work for Democrats but it's not at all appealing to Independents......at least not this one. The others are busy saying all the things they thought he should have said. It's probably better that it comes from them. And I could care less about what polls say because asking I don't know who those people are and how many of them they asked and whether or not they'll change their minds in a day or week. It might be some sort of gauge but I don't get all the hysteria over polls. Am I supposed to believe that if Barack Obama went into attack mode and kept pointing out the numerous lies Mitt Rommey told yesterday that the polls would make him more appealing to the people participating in the poll? The people who are most likely to be swayed by whatever Mitt Romney lied about would not have voted for Barack Obama anyway. Anyone relying on a debate to make a voting decision is the likely to eeny meeeny their way through their ballot.

I guess they are in love with his eyes because he is quite awkward. He and Mitt Romney tend to appear flabbergasted when asked any follow-up questions. They come across as though they believe that everyone should accept whatever they say because they said so. Chirs Wallace does what he is supposed to and asks for details and Paul Ryan brushes him off and says he doesn't have enough time to provide details. I'm just waiting for him to say that the American public would not understand it anyway. Their premise is vote for them because and you don't need to know anything we don't want to or feel like telling you. I want to hear how Mitt Romney wants to blow things up if he becomes President. In fact I hope someone brings up foreign policy at the V.P. debate so Paul Ryan can pretend he knows something about that as well.

So they spent around $10,000 on training for Al B. Sure to be able to sing his part in this song: <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ts5arg8c_Sw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> and they spent around the same teaching Johnny Gill to dance so he could be in New Edition. Who would've thought his dance moves would be more important than that voice? <iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VUvtlmlBbDg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Luckily he collaborated with these guys who didn't care anything about dancing....I mean like hire sexy background dancers for that rright.... <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_cy8vpVS1Iw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That's one of the complaints I don't get. Was Barack Obama supposed to show up to the debate with a hammer that reads "47 percent" and just start beating Mitt Romney over the head with it? Democrats vs. Republicans reminds me of irrational sports fans who care more that their teams beat each other because it gives them bragging rights. Who won or lost is totally subjective so it's laughable that some of his supporters are mad at Barack Obama because he didn't live up to their expectations. It's not about you and it's not about Mitt Romey's supporters either. It's about appealing to people that are still on the fence. Does anyone really believe that AARP members have all seen the light and now think that Mitt Romney is their man on Social Security and Medicare issues? Didn't Paul Ryan say a couple of days ago that they (in being part of that percentage) needed to get a job? Some of them worked all their lives to retire in peace and he neglects to take them out of that group because he's busy riling up his supporters. The next debate will be a tale of two Catholics and there will be low expectations for Joe Biden since Paul Ryan is the media whiz kid. Joe Biden can basically aw shucks his way around in the middle and end of making some substantive points. I imagine that there are a number of people deciding whether to vote at all not for whom to vote. If those people decide to vote they will vote for Barack Obama because their dilemma is about moral issues and/or disappointment in Barack Obama.

I think clobbered is an overstatement. It sounds like the kind of OTT assessment common in the media. Mitt Romney sounded no more sincere than Barack Obama and that smirk on his face doesn't do him any favors because he comes across as condescending in the worst possible way. Barack Obama's problem in that sort of setting is that he pauses too long to think which leads to the use of filler words. Some might see it as contemplative but for people with little patience, it's just slow. People like me lose attention rather quickly when engaged in conversations with people who appear to take too long to think of their response. But it is better to think before you speak. Anyway, I think the whole thing was strategic. It benefits the media and everyone can run around pretending that there is some significance to Mitt Romney winning a debate, as though that is some magic cure all for whatever happened in the weeks and days preceding it. Media sprinkles its magic fairy dust and everyone forgets all. I won't be surprised if they come out with polls claiming they are dead even and go on endlessly about the debate being the game changer. Clearly, they never poll people like me who don't sway in the wind over the media magical pixie dust. I am not enamored of Democrats and Republicans and their inability to work like mature adults in Congress. I blame them more than any President for the state of affairs because far too many of them have been in office for way too long.

Not on MSNBC. Besides OTT Chris Matthews in panic mode, the 4 p.m. Eastern and after crew are probably either reminding the viewers of who they think Mitt Romney is or how Barack Obama is better for them. Honestly, I was more interested in watching baseball than the debate but I got a phone call at debate start time and I ended up muting the t.v. and watching that smirk on Mitt Romney's face and Barack Obama looking down. I wasn't keen on hearing the hot air that was coming out of their mouths but I heard enough to remain unimpressed. I hate to vote yet again on the lesser of two unappealing candidates. On another note.....in California the solution to any money related problem seems to be increasing the sales tax. There's yet another proposition to raise sales taxes. Depending on which county you shop in, you could pay well over 11% in sales taxes.

Her <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GuJQSAiODqI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> and two guys that fought record companies <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/41142261" width="500" height="375" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/41142261">PRINCE "Uptown"</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user9844933">Videodrome Discothèque</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/diYAc7gB-0A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Stephen Colbert defends Paul Ryan http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/02/1138723/-Stephen-Colbert-mocks-lack-of-math-in-Romney-Ryan-tax-plan

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Every two days I get at least a couple of pieces of junk mail from a candidate for Congress saying how he's this and that and the other guy is you know..... So I tear his mail up and the occasional piece from the other guy.

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The lyrics alone get me--Laundered linen sheets touched me with their coldness. And thoughts I can't reveal shocked me with their boldness. ... A bath so hot it almost scalds and I let the warmth surround me. I slide down 'til only my face shows but I feel colder now than before you found me. When you used to pin me down oh the clarity in your intent. But if your mind was somewhere else I can better anything you can invent. I thought you understood how much you meant. Who would steal you? I still feel you now you're gone. These are lies it's not real this is more than I can feel now you're gone. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8eXm2dEX7W4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

How about a theme....like money maybe....? <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/E-P2qL3qkzk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vX2sBeDR_e4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TecR_5-rQ4U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> So this one doesn't mention money and could go in the 80s thread but still..... <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/jl1mQASHc48" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

They made me want to pretend it was my birthday so I could hear the restaurant hosts get animated with that song. I am not sure I want to watch debates because I really am tired of all of them. I listened to Barack Obama briefly. So there he is telling an audience he never said change was going to take one term. I don't remember the change slogan saying change you can believe in in two terms. It may sound logical but I am sure I never heard him say before that it would take eight years. Mitt Romney panders excessively but Barack Obama has this annoying need to try to comment on so much nonsense and things on which he does not have all the facts when he should say nothing. Mitt Romney's head should be spinning around trying to keep up with his multiple positions within hours of each and that laugh. But I think I find Paul Ryan the worst because he seems to be ultra phony. His speaking style is totally unappealing like a dishonest nerdy car salesman trying to unload a lemon by pointing out what's wrong with the other guy's car.