Videnbas

The S13 episodes are all from YT. Sadly, some are missing or in bad quality because that's how they were uploaded by the official channel.

Something really odd seems to have happened with the Vault - did you notice? Every folder has been duplicated four days ago.

I agree about 2003. It is TERRIBLE. I still try to keep up but the only way it's tolerable is to watch every episode at double speed. That way I feel like I'm not wasting too much of my day. I have started rewatching S1 again and it's like a completely different show.

YES! To me, this is THE funniest scene in the history of the show. The last four minutes or so of this episode are pure so-bad-it's-good perfection. Massimo with the motorcycle, the badly choreographed fighting, Brooke in the cauldron, Ridge doing cartwheels into the furnace, Sheila sneaking off while whispering "Goodbye Ridge"...

It is true that the show had planned to go to Italy in late 2001 but chose to postpone the location shoot due to 9/11. And while we don't know for sure if Macy's return was planned to happen then, there are several indications that this may have been the case (Macy's brief return in the summer of 2001, followed by Sally mentioning that Macy was "burned beyond recognition" so that Sally was left "without a body to bury"). Of course, the presence of the truck driver (who happened to be a female with the same hair color as Macy) is an indication that at the very least, Bell always intended to leave the door open for Macy to return. And the scene between Kimberly and Adam six months later pretty much confirmed that Macy was alive and living with her father. I am watching Macy's resurrection now on Youtube and enjoying it. It is like an improved and condensed version of Taylor's Morocco storyline.

It's interesting that you made the same observations about the Sheila storyline vs the Anthony storyline that we made in the YT comment section at the time! It was interesting to compare the two since they were "parallel storylines", and I absolutely agree that the Anthony storyline was superior to Sheila's storyline. Even the climax of Sheila's storyline felt less suspenseful and threatening than the climax of Anthony's storyline (I remember Nick and I had a discussion about "surprise" vs "suspense": Sheila's goodbye party was based on surprising twists - look, it's Sheila! look, she has a gun! look, she drinks poison! - whereas Macy and Anthony's final scenes were all about suspense - we knew about the gun and the tape recorder all along, and the suspense was in how these objects would come into play and who would ultimately defeat the other. Those scenes actually had a Hitchcockian feel.).

This is such a great summary Joona (it is you, right? 🙂 I'm AnnieO in the YT comment section)! I completely agree with all of this. I like your observation about the show being "too meta" in recent years, and I think that aspect also began in that disastrous year of 2003 with the introduction of Nick Marone (and to some extent Jackie) who always had this meta feel, as if they didn't quite take the fictional universe they live in seriously.

THANK YOU 1998 Angel för the new episodes! ❤️

I am so excited that if this continues, we will have the complete 1987-2003 era within the next year!

Thank you, thank you, thank you to the 1997 Angel!

Yes, I read about that in an old article at SoapCentral too! My guess is that they had planned for Macy's return in Portofino and that was postponed for a year (I also remember reading something to that effect in an interview somewhere but I can't find it anymore). There have been LOTS of Macy references in the 2001 episodes, including where Sally said that she didn't have a body to bury because Macy had been burned "beyond recognition", which usually means a character is about to make a comeback. Ridge's paternity coming out is another one of those storylines that felt "delayed". We will learn about it in late 2001, and then for over a year, this storyline is treading water because Stephanie, Massimo and Sally are the only ones who know about it, until Bridget learns the truth in Portofino. So this is another storyline that may have been planned for the original location shoot.

I had the same experience! I loved the Laila storyline when I watched it as a kid but cringed when watching it now - probably because at that time I didn't know when Taylor was finally going to reveal herself, and it always felt like it was just about to happen any day, and watching now I just sat back and went "yeah, this is going to take a year". Also, of course, all the plot holes are so much more visible now. That being said, I still find it unintentionally hilarious, and when watching it on Youtube a lot of us had fun rooting for Mustapha and Ahmed (who were actually good supporting characters) instead of any of the ridiculously written main characters. To me, the real decline in quality came in 1994 with the introduction of Jessica and the teen storyline. The rest of 1994 was very uneven and the storylines felt disconnected. Then I enjoyed the first half of 1995 with the Sheila and Anthony storylines, but the second half of 1995 was a chore to watch, with every single storyline idea ending in a dead end (until Sheila's return when things got better again as we got the Bridget paternity reveal).

Exactly! He was trying to do an Agatha Christie-type whodunit and completely failed.

Thank you 1997 Angel for the new episodes! I created new folders for the new episodes but couldn't move the new episodes into the folders. Maybe someone else knows how?

Yes. Luckily it's already in the Vault (and complete from what I could see). Yes, I'm hoping for more S10 uploads from Videoland! I do have Videoland but don't have a very good way of saving the episodes in good quality (I used to do screen recordings but the quality was uneven). It's odd that the yt channel decided to skip to S13, but the good part is that they uploaded in better quality and three episodes a day, so it completes the collection sooner. Pretty soon with some luck we'll have almost complete from 1987 to early 00s, which in my opinion is the classic era.