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On 11/3/2023 at 3:42 AM, Paul Raven said:

 

 

 

So it was OK for women to slap men but if they retaliated it was casual violence?

I don't doubt there were casual attitudes about violence toward women back then, but the examples given were not the best.

A man returning a slap from a woman is not casual violence. It's self defence, if not fair retaliation.

On 11/16/2023 at 10:51 PM, divinemotion said:

The ultimate QUEEN of this thread and I think the winner... is... The Bold And The Beautiful.

In 2010 someone very "smart" decided to write a story in which Brooke, the long standing slut from the valley, humps her daughter’s borderline teenage boyfriend on the terrace, in A PUBLIC masked prom party full of teens. That 50 year old woman was wearing a mask and MISTAKENLY thought that the man ALSO wearing a mask was HER HUSBAND. The lead up to this was that Brooke was feeling extremely horny dancing to Daddy Yankee's POSE and Gasolina in the steam room FOR DAYS.  Of course when the prom started, she couldn't control herself and just HAD TO DO IT in public.

She didn't feel anything different when a 30 years younger man was bonking her against a wall. 2 days later she realized that she had made that mistake, and what followed were 2 months of hysteria and over the top crying finishing with Stephanie DOUBLE slapping her. It was SO BAD and GOOD at the same time... sometimes when I have the flu and need something funny to pick me up I just start watching these episodes from the start. It really is Brad Bell at his most CRAZY.

In resume - Brooke mistakenly had sex with Oliver - her young virginal daughters first boyfriend.

It is a story straight from the trash 70s VHS porn tapes. Completely absurd. I cant understand why Bold didn't win BEST show that year. Who can compete with that.

 

Whew that story was 'stoopid' but entertaining. I'll take that over brain tumor Thomas and the manequin any day. The shift from the core four players while Stephanie was alive era (2010-2012) was crap but miles ahead of today. 

3 hours ago, titan1978 said:

 

GH- The Panic Room. As much as I didn’t enjoy what the show was at that point, or what Liz had become, her seeing Carly was a thrilling cliffhanger.

I always ramble about how I liked the panic room story, lol. Can you expand on what you didn't like about it?

What bad soap story was at the very least entertaining to watch.

My answer: Marlena's possession (DAYS)

12 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

GH has been hard hit!

John Reilly d. Jan. 9, 2021

Stuart Damon d. June 29, 2021

Jay Pickett d. July 30, 2021

Lindsey Pearlman d. Feb. 18, 2022 GH Bartender Maggie McMorris

Sonya Eddy d. Dec. 9, 2022 (55)

Nneka Garland d. Mar 27, 2023 (47)

Jackie Zeman d. May 9, 2023 (70) (cancer)

Charles "Chip" Dox d. Aug. 15, 2023 (80)

Billy Miller d. Sept. 15, 2023 (43)

Craig Sjodin d. Sept. 15, 2023 (67) (bicycle accident injuries) GH Photog

Tyler Christopher d. Oct. 31, 2023 (50) cardiac event

Sad, truly.

Another soap actor gone! Grew up with him on my screen. If we could just have one more scene with Tyker Johnathan and Genie. RIP

B&B with the excessive Liam/Hope/Steffy repetition, especially after 2012.

GH (2015-2017) Just too many characters, no focus, stunt casting, show looked really cheap. Didn't tune in again until Jason returned. 

On 10/20/2023 at 3:46 PM, Aragorn said:

If David Muir was included in the episode counts, how high would he rank?

Spencer loves Ace more than Trina. No competition there.

Kevin appeared with someone other than Laura! And he is on again on Monday!

I support Kristina and Blaze as a couple.

These special reports are starting to get a lot less special.

It's surreal having Lois back especially as Ned and Olivia are a complete mirror of him and Lois. If Rena Sofer stayed long-term that would be like breaking up a couple for a near identical pairing.

Does Amelia Heinle have a Y&R fanbase?

I always dread opening the soap central homepage and seeing who we've lost now. This one is a total shocker. RIP!!!!!

On 8/17/2023 at 10:38 PM, BrendaB said:

Perfectly put.

I think the best acting I've ever seen Nancy Lee Grahn do was when she tore into Sonny, Jason, Carly, etc. at her sister Kristina's funeral.  Alexis really spoke for the disenchanted audience when she laid into those toxic characters back then.  I still don't understand how she ended up sleeping with and having a child with Sonny, 

That's what kills me, lol. Alexis held Sonny to account...yet slept with him months prior.

The last decent performance that I've seen from Sonny is when he tore into Claudia at her birthday party.

What was your opinions on Sonny & Claudia? I think that has been his only interesting pairing over the last 15 years...unless you count OG Kate? 

On 7/11/2023 at 11:38 PM, kalbir said:

Mid-1990s Nikki was so snooty lady of the manor. She needed to be reminded that she was the OG ho turned housewife.

It sucks that Nikki's first meeting Sharon got video taken down. How phophetic that a woman named Sharon ended up taking over the role and being the best at it.

What exactly was the writer's goal with early Sharon? Was she an opportunist that grew to love Nick, or did she genuinely like Nick but was also an opportunist? It's unclear but it's evident that Nikki was so upity in the 90s despite her upbringing.

Nikki was more down to earth in the clips that I saw of her in the '80s. Sometime around the early 90s, like when she tried to fire Miguel for not serving her alcohol, her bitchy-ness became evident.

I wonder what it would have been like if Nikki and 90s era Lauren went toe to toe.

With the news that some ABC owned and operated stations on the East Coast like New York City are starting at 10 AM newscast, I'm surprised they didn't mess with General Hospital and move it back to 2 PM for a 3pm newscast. Especially since ABC News pre-empts the show like crazy with Special Reports.

On 8/14/2023 at 12:12 AM, will81 said:

Y&R well into the 2000's had great production, acting and stories - if you discounted history/back story and character development.

Jill being Kay's daughter was awesome if you didn't know these characters well enough or had jumped on in the late 90's, say around the time they were fighting over the Chancellor estate. If you didn't know Liz Foster, you would never feel betrayed by what they did to her.

I did watch again briefly in 05/06 and the show was solid still, but being so well versed in the shows history and what it had been, made it harder for me to get into it as a whole. 

It wasn't that Y&R was a bad show, it just was a show that had in many ways begun to ignore its history, more so with character development. If I had begun watching in 1998, I would have loved this show throughout most of the 2000's. 

On 8/14/2023 at 12:31 AM, DaytimeFan said:

B&B: After 2003 till 2012 was that era for me. The Marones were an attempt to move the show forward and although in the long term they were a total flop and Jack Wagner, in particular, became an albatross for the show, it had its moments. I always enjoyed Stephanie sticking it Jackie Marone whenever she could. However, I really feel that Darlene Conley and Susan Flannery took the show with them with their respective exits in 2007 and 2012. 

Y&R: The show was true to itself till 2005, the year Bill Bell died and the Bell family's management of the show ended and Sony's presence grew. In hindsight, the era from 2005 to 2010 was quite watchable, even though the show faltered. From 2010 to 2013, the quality deteriorated further, but there were still great scenes in isolation. But ever since Jeanne Cooper's death, it's become what it is today.

You echoed my exact thoughts on Y&R and B&B. The removal of classic music cues for Casio keyboard chimes exacerbated Young's decline.

I would much rather watch the Maorne and OG Spectra family than the current Spencers. If Bill weren't written so corny, I could appreciate his antics more. I loved his scenes when he crossed over to Y&R.  Maybe he should stay there and be evil Brad, giving Victor hell. 

I'm surprised Morgan, somewhat a legacy birth, and the only biological child of the show's lead supercouple was killed off.

I'd always assumed they'd write him back in. The fact that Ava is still around and co parenting with them is crazy.

Sonny's last two children were just unnecesary. He has enough as it is. How many times has he gotten a woman pregnant now nine...counting the babies that didn't make it?

One of the most polarizing characters in the shows history has been on for three decades. He was the show's lead from roughly 2000-2017.

Questions to ponder:

What was his best or worst storyline? What were some of Sonny's best/worst scenes? Who does he belong with, Carly or Brenda? Who were his best relationships besides those two? When exactly did Maurice's acting get bad? When did Sonny's charachter go downhill? 

Today marks 30 years since Sonny's debut. Did anyone guess in those moments that he would become the shows lead?

46 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

To me, that defined most soaps from the mid-‘90s to around 2005 or so.

2005 tends to be that year when most soaps hit a steep nose dive.

Cameron's return has been the most exciting thing in years on Y&R. 

I feel like through all of its trials General Hospital has still remained watchable at the very least.

Was there a time that a soap of your choice was clearly past its prime, but still interesting enough to watch regularly.

My answer:

Bold and the Beautiful after 2003. The show's best days were behind it, but Bold hadn't fallen down the Liam/Hope/Steffy rabbit hole yet.

15 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

I believe their biggest problem is that they think they can make it up as they go along. Liz's parents & the Reiko story, the Hook, the year-long leukemia story & even the revenge porn shaggy dog case all would tend to suggest that - guess what - you have to decide on one ending ahead of time. 

9 hours ago, Aragorn said:

Carly is a character in decline. She should no longer be the lead female on the show. She should run Kelly's and be the new Aunt Ruby.

I think that Kristina is going to replace Carly as the female lead of the series.

I wanted Phyllis to be the the head of Kelly's. She has the same warmth as Ruby and Mary Mae. I wish they hadn't killed off Lenny. That would have made a nice husband and wife establishment.

That makes sense because their plots feel so discombobulated. They just pick up one minute, then cool off, then randomly pick back. I didn't even realize Cyrus was still on the show. Especially for a cast as large as this, you would think there's more foresight and planning into the plots.

If GH supposedly comes in under budget and is able to have all of these sets with so many characters, think about how much greater the show would be if they trimmed all of the useless characters, stuck to a core group of players with defined stories and had a decent supporting cast.

GH keeps taking too long with a couple to the point where an actor leaves. They did it with Spencer and the first Teina, they did it with Jason and Brott, and now they're doing it again with new Trina and Spencer who'se actor is leaving.

Eric Braden, Susan Flannery & Lucci, Larry Hagman, Jim Davis, Melody Thomas Scott.

CBS Sunday Morning profile Donna Mills which references her time on "General Hospital". Interestingly, she says she's grateful for her GH emmy but doesn't feel that was her best work. She says that was probably more of a Lifetime Achievement Award.

CBS Sunday Morning profile on Knots Landing star Donna Mills which references her time on "The Secret Storm", "Love is a Many-Splendored Thing", and "General Hospital". Interestingly, she says she's grateful for her GH emmy but doesn't feel that was her best work. She says that was probably more of a Lifetime Achievement Award.

This is all generic common sense but it's a harsh reality that I'm understanding more and more.

The circumstances leading to the Hollywood strike underscore that in America, a business is not for the shared wealth between the workers and the corporation while providing a good to the consumer. The primary goal is to make money for the owners and the steak / shareholders. The worker and sometimes the customer be damned.

Naturally, the people running the business will make more money. Too often the issue is that people on the bottom of the ladder aren't even being given enough money to be well off.