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Michelle Pfeiffer would be great!!!!!

http://www.eonline.com/news/484710/american-horror-story-wants-reese-witherspoon-and-two-more-a-listers-find-out-who

YEah she would be...I also read that Kathy Bates and Angela Basset will be returning in season 4.

ITA. I don't see this as Queenie turning on the other witches. Rather she is trying to find a place to belong and be loved. As far as she knows Marie only wants LaLaurie who is a monster. Queenie is not privy to Marie's plans. When she does find out, this is when we will see where her loyalty lies.

I am clueless about what Murphy is trying to say about "race," but I like that he is generating difficult and uncomfortable conversation.

Definitely uncomfortable conversation. One argument that I see often is Marie Laveau being racist and is just as bad as LaLaurie...maybe? maybe not? But let's not pretend like it is the same. Its hard to compare a Marie's ( black person's) justified hatred and general distrust of white people when they have lived through and seen what Marie has with folks like LaLaurie (white people) who have brutalized and hated black people just because they could. Marie's SL is a revenge trope..Marie versus Fiona (the voodoo coven versus the witch coven) is feuding families trope (they just happen to be of different races)....but LaLaurie's story is what? redemption? I resent that being that the character doesn't deserve it.

Absolutely! The person who wrote that article seems very intelligent, but I can't help but believe they are not watching all eppies or just barely paying attention.

Or they are not even attempting to see actions through the eyes of the characters...or just can't empathize with Queenie's situation/story. Someone who has always fitted in may not understand the thoughts and feelings of an outsider (which is a situation that doesn't have to necessarily do with race, could be class, gender, straight/gay. cis/trans, general interests, hobbies, basically anything that is not like the most of the people you are around).

I hate to do this, but I thought this AVClub review about how inevitably awful this whole race wars story will probably be and yet why I keep watching, was spot on about the episode as a whole. http://www.avclub.com/review/the-dead-105840

"Queenie switches sides because a couple of people tell her that her fellow schoolmates will never think of her as a sister witch and because LaLaurie—a woman she already knows to be an immortal racist murderer who created a minotaur—once killed a baby. Yeah, I get why she doesn’t want to be forever friends with LaLaurie after that revelation, but turning on everybody else? The show is trying to use race as a central motivation in its “Now, you go here, and you go here” action-figure storytelling, but it just doesn’t work or conform to the characters as we’ve gotten to know them."

I don't think that this it is as simple at that with Queenie. She feels like an outsider and is looking for somewhere to fit in. How may times has she said she doesn't need the "sorority" because she is used to looking out for herself. But then she is secretly looking for love and acceptance which we saw with the Minotaur. So really her talk is just a front for what she really wants. We know that she has aspirations to be a powerful witch. Look how easily to ate that line up from Fiona about being the supreme. But she never really believed that and neither did Fiona. I don't see it as Queenie turning on the rest of the witches moreso than it is about her own ambition accompanied by her desire to be accepted.

This bugs me. I cut some slack when it comes to Ryan Murphy's lack of character development when it comes to this show (or more the fact that we see characters move from point A to C and miss point but in this case I couldn't tell if we were meant to feel sorry for LaLaurie and Queenie's "betrayal?" One scene of them bonding over fast food does not do that. If they took another episode to show some of that, I might have. But in an interview about the episode on EW, Murphy said he wanted us to feel sad that Queenie still felt she needed to betray her friend. WTF?

I still think Season 2 somehow was all tied together effectively (though the last two episodes apparently were mainly Tim Minear's idea.) This season is a clusterfuck and I'm not sure it can be tied into something cohesive.

Ryan Murphy must be a totally incompetent writer. I thought we were suppose to rejoice that Queenie betrayed her. Look at the story LalAurie told about that baby...and her utter lack of remorse for it. Saying "it was a different time" to explain it away or convince Queenie that it was okay. Then for her to tell Queenie that she would never be accepted because she is black. Come on now.