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16 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

I had seen this earlier today but wasn’t going to share until I saw official confirmation lol but this was the pic I kept seeing plastered all over, he looks great. Can he act though?

 

 

He has a four minute demo tape on IMBd and he looks like he can do comedy & drama.

 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7903324/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

I think he's adorable and quite the upgrade. The challenge will be the sub-par writing, some actors can deal with it better than others.

YAY If Jill is back I'm going to start watching....again! I pray JG actually writes her into the story and she's going to stick around a little while. He did a horrid job with Nina all those weeks she was around. She was basically a potted plant in the Chancellor mansion.

Looks like Chance is alive. The background looks a little too festive for a death. Welcome home or welcome back Chance! ?

I hope they re-cast someone good.

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

If Sony did more than talk about diversity, Y&R could have had an Asian family. It should now be clear, the reasons why these shows are such a mess.

 They could have started by just keeping Ji Min Kim. He was one good looking man and wonderful with Jill. I'm still bitter they didn't give that pairing a chance. I don't know anything about the BTS at the time so I have no idea why he was killed off so fast.

Can't they move Josh Griffith over to the EP role and bring back Sally Sussman as head writer. She may need a job if she's dumping her crappy husband. I liked Sally. 

I don't think JG could handle both jobs isn't he prone to mental breakdowns?

Are they not recasting Chance? Because in one episode Abby goes from being mad at for Chance not being there, to bonding with Devon over their baby.

2 hours ago, xtr said:

I also do like Nina and "Mike". I like Cynthia Watros take on this character. I do wonder what will happen when Sonny get his memory  back. 

I like Nina and Mike too. Although I hope they don't write Sonny to hate her like he did after having sex with Ava. That drives me crazy! I know eventually he'll be back with Carly, but I pray he still retains that "Mike" feeling towards her. Sonny being an ass to other women is such a turn-off. And if Sonny retained some feeling for Nina it would bother the hell out of Carly.

3 hours ago, Chatty Cakes said:

Time to get a new Chance on the show. 

YES! Where is Chance? They've had plenty of time to re-cast him.

On 10/17/2020 at 6:06 PM, ironlion said:

I feel like had Dina not been given alzheimers, she could have filled Kay Chancellor's void in some way.

Jill was written to fill Kay's shoes from the first day she walked into the Chancellor estate back in 1973.

It's a crying shame that current, and latest crop of writers, ignore that viewers have had 3 decades of excellent writing setting that up. And Jess Walton could be so amazing at it. 

Instead we get Kevin and Chloe sponging off Esther in the Chancellor mansion. 

4 hours ago, KMan101 said:

Lord. Melissa Claire Egan leader for the month. Low count for #1 but still. Lord. NO ONE IS HERE FOR CHELSEA AS THE LEAD. A boring bot leading the top. Makes sense for Griffith's Y&R.

 MCE has been the lead Y&R female the minute she returned.

If you average the annual totals, and adjust for how many months they have been on canvas, you can see who JG wants to use. I'm guessing it will be similar to what next year will look like if it's up to him....

1.)  11. Mark Grossman (Adam Newman) : 113/6.5= 17.38 episodes per month
2)  1. Joshua Morrow (Nick Newman) : 171/12= 14.25

3)  16. Melissa Claire Egan (Chelsea Lawson) : 83/6= 13.83

4)  17. Michelle Stafford (Phyllis Summers) : 78/6.5= 12

5)  2. Michael Mealor (Kyle Abbott) : 139/12= 11.58

6)  3. Jason Thompson (Billy Abbott) : 132/12= 11

7)  4. Amelia Heinle (Victoria Newman) : 130/12= 10.8

8)  5. Sharon Case (Sharon Newman) : 124/12= 10.34

9)  6. Hunter King (Summer Newman) : 122/12= 10.16

10) 7. Melissa Ordway (Abby Newman) : 120/12= 10.16

11) 8. Sasha Calle (Lola Rosales Abbott) : 119/12= 9.92

       *. Jordi Vilasuso (Rey Rosales) : 119/12= 9.92

12) 10. Peter Bergman (Jack Abbott) : 114/12= 9.5

13) 18. Sean Dominic (Nate Hastings) : 74/8=  9.25

14) 12. Melody Thomas-Scott (Nikki Newman) : 103/12=  8.58

15) 13. Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) : 96/12=  8

16) 14. Bryton James (Devon Hamilton) : 95/12= 8

17) 20. Brytni Sarpy (Elena Dawson) : 67/8.5= 7.88

18) 15. Camryn Grimes (Mariah Copeland) : 91/12=  7.58

19) 19. Tyler Johnson (Theo Vanderway) : 68/7= 5.73

2 hours ago, FrenchFan said:

 

You are much welcome ! I might put more to the bonus list if more people are interested. The complete list is about 400 performers. 

 Is it possible to get each actors total episodes on the show from whenever they started? 

23 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

I've got news for you: my ex-sister-in-law's mother does the same thing with my niece and nephew and -- take it from me -- she is as racist as the day is long.

I guess you never know. But Y&R can't just hire actors with certain political views, or just liberals. You can't do that. If someone is spewing hate or making their personal life a problem for the network that's a different story. 

I guess it doesn't matter to me as much because I don't follow the actors, and I never have. I am into the characters only. I love Jill, but I know very little about Jess Walton, even though I love her as Jill.  I prefer not to know her personal life. Until the social media I didn't even know most of the actors names, I knew them by character name only.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I took a quick glance on SM and Y&R fans are already trying to get him put with Mishael Morgan's new character.  Oh boy!  Are these leftover Lane fans, LOL?

Amanda/Chance would make sense age wise ,and story wise. Devon & Chance represent each side of the Chancellor clan, they should have a rivalry over a woman.

I have a hard some believing the actor would have a problem with it, or is racist because of that one tweet. He seems to adore his black/mixed race nephew who he proudly posted over his Instagram when he first set it up. 

I took a look at his social media. I was expecting a monster, fearing a whole feed of hate and MAGA stuff, but the worst of it is on the previous page. By far, the majority of his content is about his work, and family. He seemed to comment on some social/political issues here and there, that were hot at the time. And big surprise, a white guy raised in a small Texas town has conservative views. He was raised from birth that way, so he looks at life through a different filter than me, but (even though I strongly disagree on almost every issue with him) he's not hateful, or going overboard, . If anything, he get's hooked into whatever the conservative media is saying at the time and repeats it. The tried and true, debating the meaning of "nationalist", is designed to reel him in, & it does.

The Rosanne stuff? So what?  Many liberals agree with conservatives on that because they get burnt on that issue too. Like when Bill Maher's show got canceled. In Rosanne's early years she stood up against the sexism of the networks by refusing to say hateful/sexist lines she was given, and almost lost her show. These days she just seems mentally ill.

He disagrees with Sarah Silverman on Kavanagh ( normal loving men do fear being wrongly accused too) but later retweets her, supporting her on cash bail, and being fair economically. So he's debating her not hating on her. Boy and girls scouts? He's talking politicization and little kids playing.

And associating Loren being fired, with him, is really unfair. He has nothing to do with that. Unless he starts using his new platform to be political, I'm fine with him playing Chance, even though he looks a touch older than he should be to me,.. if he's good. 

Oh no!  I don't want to know things I don't like, about the actor who plays nuChance. I've been wanting a Chance return ever since the last one left. I am so happy they finally did it.  Chance is supposed to be the good guy, I hope the actor's life isn't so bad he ruins the character for me.

I'm thinking of good things like....Y&R Chancellor history woven into current stories. More Chancellor mansion set.  Nina and/or Jill  being used in stories, like we are seeing Traci over at the Abbotts. Another handsome guy in the dating pool so the women aren't so desperate. Break up some of the predictability between  pairings.

7 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

The Theo retcon is for Kyle. He needs a long term rival. It's clear with this that the show has given up on Noah as a character. 

Wouldn't Billy be Kyle's long term rival at Jabot?

Theo still isn't an Abbott. Although I could see Dina leaving him all the money she made from Devon from the sale of Mergeron. She knows all the Abbott's heirs are well taken care of.

I hope Chance is still coming.

4 hours ago, StepBack said:

You know, I really hate this Devon story. It could've been done so much better if they were going to contest the will. But to give it to EFFIN Cane is so damn dumb. I also don't think I've disliked Jill more than now. If this is why they brought Jill back, they might as well ship her off. This whole thins is just completely insulting and dumb as hell. Why are they believing Cane who is a REPEATED LIAR? No way in hell Katherine would leave her inheritance to Cane. Just so damn dumb 

 I think Jill has to be in this story if this is Cane's exit story. My theory is Colin & Cane are pulling the scam. Colin because he's out of money since Jill divorced him, and Cane to get back at Devon for putting Lilly in jail. She's going to have a rude awakening when she finds out Cane scammed her again.

Perfect time for Chance ( and/or Phillip III) to appear. It's time Jill had a relationship with her real son/grandson instead of a fake one.

Not to mention there should be actual Chancellors in Genoa City!

Jill needs one of them to take over at CI for her since they won't let her be seen running it.

Katherine's will story could have been interesting if they had Chance and Mac contesting the will. Then it would have been about Katherine & Chancellors. But the story really seems to be about Amanda coming, & Cane exiting. It was obvious that as soon as they named Cane it was a scam. I could have bought Chance. Katherine could have left Chance the bulk of her fortune to him to make up for killing his grandfather.

1 hour ago, EllenP said:

Let’s hope that Jill emerges out of this sh*t unscathed and still viable. It is obvious that the show suddenly shifted gears with this Adam story and effed up any momentum once DG whined his way out of the Traci pairing and they pigeon-holed Cane in.

I'm hoping Cane is replaced with Chance. Cane has no reason to be in GC without Lily. Both Philip III, and Chance are actual Chancellors, it's time  at least one of them come home. I'd rather see Jill have a relationship with her real son, or grandson, than a fake one.

 I just hope all this praising, and gushing, over how fabulous Lola is ends ASAP! It always throws me out of story since the characters don't usually act like that.  Most of the characters care about themselves first,  so it's just weird for them to be so interested, & invested, in every aspect of this new girls life.

Ditto for all the Rosales references. It seems like they try and squeeze one in on the days Lola & Rey aren't on. The other day Abby brought seafood empanadas to the Ranch for Victor. It's like.... come on, seriously?!! Since when do we mention types of food?  Genoa City is in Wisconsin, and I've yet to hear them mention cheese curds, beer, brats, sauerkraut, venison, or Friday fish frys, so cut it out!

And lastly I hope both Lola & Rey are cut way back, if they don't go back to Miami. I'm so sick of them. At least make Lola interesting if we have to endure her presence. Lola does not come off like a heroine. All her lines are so goody-two-shoes , but she comes off as a passive aggressive bitch. She'd probably be a natural in that role.

My suggestion is to find out Lola has real secret. Mal planted something in her past when she was introduced, and it was dropped, so put it back in! Let's find out she had a sugar-daddy, or she had sex for money, in order to finance that food truck. SOMETHING BIG! No more milquetoast secrets. Maybe this virgin story was all a ruse to land an Abbott. That would make more sense than the story they told, where the Abbott's are all trying to get the Rosales approval. If she made a good vixen I may want to keep her. Nothing can save Rey for me, he's just too blah. I don't want him paired with anyone.

37 minutes ago, MichaelGL said:

Josh is trying to reset the show back to when he last wrote it. Dude move on. 

Yeah, and now Katherine's will.

Isn't he the one who wrote Katherine's funeral, and will? Or was he just on the credits? I remember hearing rumors he had walked off long before it was official.  Or maybe he didn't get his way with JFP at the time, so what he put out,  was not what he wanted?

I'm  guessing their was some turmoil at the time, because they didn't name who was getting Chancellor Industries until two weeks after the will reading episode. And Jill's music box story-line was just dropped. Sally picked it up & finished it in 2017.

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I think the will is Chance's entrance. I wouldn't mind Devon losing a portion of his original inheritance to chance if it meant that Devon got a story and long term rival in Chance. Plus, even if he lost 50%, Devon would still be a billionaire! 

Not to mention Devon has another fortune coming when Tucker McCall dies. He doesn't have to split that one with anyone, since he's the only heir. The Tucker that left GC was willing to do anything for Devon, he would probably wire him any amount of money he lost in the meantime.

I can't see Chance contesting the will. They are going to have to explain a major personality change to me if it's him. Just last year he seemed to be happy climbing mountains with his father.

Brock, Mac, Phillip 3,Chance & Nina did split a 1/4 of Katherine's estate evenly, so he did get something. And Jill owns the mansion, and Chancellor Industries. I'm sure she would pass those down to Chance if he wanted them. She would never deny Phillip III, or Chance their father/grandfather's home, or company. I imagine they are already in her will to receive them, cutting out some portion for Billy.

I really wanted Kay to pass Chancellor Industries down to Chance & Phillip 3. I saw it as a way of cleansing her soul , or making amends, for murdering their father/grandfather. Not that she had to say that out loud, but we would all know. And for me it would have made her story come full circle, finally admitting.. at least to herself, that yes she did kill that man. She never faced up to it her whole life. Leaving CI to Victor was was the worst part of that will.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

 

 

Does anyone else have the feeling that Kyle's secret was bigger than what aired and that CBS or Sony might have interfered?  Or is it just me?

Yes, CBS ( Angelica Rosas McDaniel). Lola, and the Rosales, are her project, and I think she's as emotionally invested in them, especially Lola, the same way fans are invested in their faves. She can't be even handed. That's why Kyle & Lola are written like fan fiction. With Lola being some type of modern day Cinderella, (any one who meets her loves her), and Kyle the handsome prince completely enchanted with her. This story may be interesting to her toddler daughters, but it's not soap material. And it negatively affect lots of other character and the other story lines

 I think "the secret" was an attempt to pull it out of this bizarre fantasy world, and make it into more of a soap story, with some drama. But she watered it down to nothing, so now it's a joke.

IMO Angelica's too involved, and has too many personal agendas, to be approving Y&R stories. She needs to pull back, or someone should pull her back. Y&R is over 45 years old, and struggling to survive.The last thing anyone should be doing is re-centering the show around Angelica's strong Latino woman fantasy of a character. It'd be nice if she was looking out for all the female characters, since most of TPTB are men, she could be a good balance, but nope.

11 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

So Adam's return has sent Billy off the deep end? Yet all those years before Billy was coping with Delia's death?

If Josh takes a dollar away from Devon via Katherine's will, some posters will go ballistic...

Why?  Devon's biodaddy Tucker is worth billions, and can replace it that money in a nano second.

Devon only got a portion of Katherine's estate because she had a lifetime of families to distribute it to. Devon is the only heir of Tucker. He's going to really be filthy rich when he dies. What's to worry about?

2 hours ago, Fevuh said:

I like Jess Walton but if she doesn't want to work, and wants to fade into retirement - I'd recast Jill.  I'd go beggin' to Jane Eliot or see if Deborah Adair would come out of retirement.  I don't know - but the history is falling apart at Y&R.  They went to Victor vs. Jack for too long in some ways and now I think people don't care about either of them.  I know I don't care what Victor's disease of the week is.  

 

Do we know Jess Walton doesn't want to work? I'm not so sure. She was happy to work as much as Sally & Pratt wanted her to.  I don't think Mal, or JG has asked her.

It's the show that's been cutting back the air-time on the long time vets. And we haven't had anyone interested in writing for a successful, powerful, corporate woman in decades.

So Kyle's huge secret is that a 17yr old girl came to he & Theo's party. They didn't realize she was underage and served her booze. She passes out, and they bring her to the ER for treatment. Isn't that the right thing to do?

Why wouldn't Kyle be able to tell Lola that? If there isn't more to the story, shame on Y&R for even starting it.

Everything about Kyle & Lola is a build-up to nothing. What a waste of time.

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

Lola is just one of many problems. The show as a whole just doesn’t gel and people are tuning out as a result.

To me Lola is one of the bigger problems right now, given she and Kyle are on ALL THE TIME, with long drawn out scenes. As someone who's usually home when Y&R airs, & will watch live, this makes me tune out. I think I'll watch later when I can FF, since I do record the show, but I rarely get around to watching taped episodes. I'll delete 20 at a time.

Their have been numerous couples that were boring, or that I couldn't stand, but I never complained since they were in the mix. Lola's brother Rey is boring too, but he's usually just in a scene with someone else, so I pay him no mind. The only one I enjoyed in that family was Mia.

I have some interest in what's happening to Billy, I like that the Chancellor mansion is being used. I'm interested in Chance returning. Adam & Kevin, & Micheal are entertaining. Summer & Theo were kinda cute. But I just look on SM to find out if there's something I want to watch most of the time.

3 hours ago, xtr said:

Summer will say that Lola is completely blameless in the stuff that went down with Lola/Summer/Kyle regarding the liver donation and Kyle/Summer's wedding. Summer will say that she takes full responsibility for everything.

What have I missed? Last time I looked Summer was drinking herself to death, and extremely bitter about Kyle and Lola.  Now it sounds like she's on her way to becoming the next kyle & lola cheerleader.  What happened?

1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

Lola is a character who BEGS for a shocking secret from her past.  No one can be THAT perfect, for lack of a better word.

 

Unfortunately, because Lola is (IMO) a surrogate for Angelica McDaniel, I'm afraid there will never be any depth to her, or any skeletons in her closet.

 

What bothers me the most is the endless compliments to, and about, Lola. Kyle has become nothing but compliment factory, that tells her how amazingly wonderful she is, a number of times, each time they're on. Abby is right behind him. She gushes profusely, about every detail of Kyle & Lola's life, and romance.

And every character has to do it. Yesterday, Cane was spitting  out praises of Lola. On a rare Jill return, after Neil's funeral, Traci & Jill were eating at Society, had to be in awe of the marvelous food. Even Chelsea had to say, they never had places like this when I lived her. In all my years of watching soaps I have never seen anything like it. 

Angelica McDaniel's using her position to boost her ego, by fulfilling her vanity project, at the expense of the show should cost her her job.

She also screwed up the place the Emmy photo's were taken, with her stupid paper flowers. She wanted HER Latino influence front & center, so she used giant bright colored flowers as the background for everyone's photo. Well it clashed with many of the women's outfits, and washed out everyone's face. It looked like everyone was inside a fun house. The background is not supposed to overpower the subjects, but she didn't care, it was all about her.