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  1. After the crappy way ABC treated her in 1983 I'm glad she got to have a triumph in the show's last few years.

    Ugh...I didn't like the way Ilene was misused in 1983. As was John Gabriel (Seneca). I liked 1983 but the way Kristen and Gabriel were backburnered it wasn't really good. At least 1983 ended with a bang--we got to see the dapper and handsome Daniel Pilon as Max Dubujak!

  2. I feel that the Tom King/Millee Taggart period of RH is overlooked in many ways, and I think that the latter 1986 episodes when Ilene Kristen returned to the show were terrific!! There was one scene which still cracks me up--it was when Maggie confronted Delia about hocking a valuable Coleridge necklace. Delia said to her (paraphrasing)--"What would know about having a child. And I suggest you don't have one because when you lose your waistline honey, you're gonna lose your husband!" (a reference to Roger) A catfight was in the beginning stages before it was halted by Mr. Dowd (the Coleridge butler), who carried Maggie out of the room!

  3. OSSF the photos are great. I remember one of Geoffrey Pierson where Maggie flashed back to him wandering around shirtless. No other Frank could compare to those pecs.

    Glad you like them. I found Geoff Pierson to be very HOT and SENSUAL. I loved it when he would get angry; he had that agressiveness about him that drove me crazy!! He has beautiful pecs and a yummy chest; not over-the-top bodybuildish like David Sederholm. Actually I prefer naturally hunky chests like Geoff's.

  4. RH was the last ABC soap I watched growing up since my mom wasn't a regular viewer so I hadn't originally seen the first 5 years until I got Soapnet. I loved how intimately this show delved into the family dynamics. I think Soapnet only has the rights for the first few years and then they rebroadcast it again from the beginning, but I would love to see the story that originally hooked me on RH: Charlotte Greer claiming she was Frank's first wife. Charlotte was played by Judith Chapman and I don't remember the full details, but she was somehow connected to Maeve and was out for revenge.

    The Charlotte Greer storyline was one of the great ones RH ever had. Charlotte Greer was an actress paid by Rae Woodard to ruin Frank Ryan's political career by pretending to be his wife. This cost him the bid to be councilman, so Jill took his place instead. It turns out that this act wasn't just out of revenge on Rae's part; it was also revenge on the MacCurtain's part as well. Charlotte's father, Neil MacCurtain and his wife, Una, came to New York to kill Frank Ryan as part of a plan to avenge a 40-year-old tragedy that happened in Ireland. It was a classic case of intense family rivalry. In an ambush, Neil's wife was killed. She was the sister of Una, who married Neil. Their hatred towards the Ryans only intensified with the passing years. Rae found out that Charlotte hadn't left NYC like she was supposed to and when she confronted her, Charlotte told Rae that she and her family had their own plan of sabotaging Frank and his family, hinting at death. Charlotte blackmailed Rae with threats of leaking the funding and photocopies of the payment statements to the media. By this time Neil and Una had already arrived in NYC. They had told Frank that they needed his help--by going to Ireland with them to settle a money problem. Turns out they sent Frank to an abandoned garage in the New York City piers and planned to set him up by having the truck inside the garage filled with drugs, weapons and other assorted goodies. Frank was shot when Maeve, Johnny, the other Ryan's and the police were on the scene. Neil eventually died soon after, and Una went all psycho on everyone--pointing a gun at them and going into massive delusions, thinking Maeve was her sister, Fiona. Charlotte fled the scene before she could be caught. This was the gist of that storyline. Frank suffered a major loss of blood but survived the ordeal.

  5. What was the Sarah Jane story about?

    Claire Labine claims Felder was fired for not being attractive enough.

    Did you like Yasmine Bleeth?

    Sarah Jane was Jill's alias when she had amnesia. This was in late 1985. Dakota Smith discovered her on the fishing dock and Jill (Sarah Jane) eventually got a job as a waitress at a local hangout. If you ever thought you'd never see Jill in a pair of jeans or wearing clips in her teased hair, she does in those shows--it's a hoot!

    Yasmine was good as Ryan--a case where SORAS was needed. The original Ryan was a little thing when she was on RH and she and Leigh Kirkland had a mother-daughter like relationship in 1983. Felicity LaFortune wasn't on RH when Yasmine took over the role in 1985.

  6. Who was Chaz?

    I know what you mean about Ann Gillespie. I always think of that laughalympics scene where her Siobhan ran around the orange cones for her police test. I just never could see Siobhan as a cop. I guess if it were Marg Helgenberger, maybe.

    It makes the whole thing even more sad after I learned that Sarah Felder was fired by ABC for not being attractive enough.

    Chaz Saybrook was on RH from 1987-89. I forget who he was related to, but he was a very preppy blond, dressed really nice and had a really dreamy smile! :) He was involved with Nancy Don and Ryan when he was in Riverside.

    Marg Helgenberger could pull the cop persona off pretty well. In 1983 they portrayed her as being a bitter shrew, which I didn't care for, but when they paired her with Bill Hyde she softened up considerably. Back then, soaps sort of had this thing of casting redheads as policewomen. EDGE OF NIGHT did it with Deborah Saxon, ANOTHER WORLD with M.J. MacKinnon and RYAN'S HOPE with Siobhan. I could never see Sarah Felder playing a cop if she was still in the role. I don't think we'll ever know the truth about Felder's departure. One source said she wasn't sexy enough, the other says Sarah wanted more money. It's anyone's guess...

  7. Thanks Carl! I like the blue as well.

    I think RH was a wonderful soap throughout its entire run. Like any show, it went through rough periods and perhaps rougher directions. I'd say 1983-86 falls into that category, only because that era deviated so far away from the RH its longtime viewers were familiar with. However, I liked the dashing Daniel Pilon as Max Dubujak very much!!

    With regards to the RH recasts, I can think of two off the bat I didn't care for at all: Ann Gillespie replacing Sarah Felder as Siobhan Ryan. That was a bitter pill to swallow. Ann was not the wisest choice for a replacement, not so much for the physical attributes but for delivery. Recently I watched an episode from late 1981 where she referred to Da as "daddy". It seemed so bizarre to me, and so out of character. The other recast I wasn't fond of was Michael Hennessy replacing Roscoe Born as Joe Novak in the latter part of 1983. Roscoe brought a lot of sensuality to Joe and the overall package was just perfect (actually, he replaced Richard Muenz in the role in 1981, and Muenz I liked also--so this was a good recast). However, Michael Hennessy I found to be very stiff. His acting left a lot to be desired in my opinion, and personally I didn't find him to be visually appealing. His voice sounded juvenile and he came across as a mangina as opposed to a supposed-to-be reformed mobster. I can see why he only lasted six months in the role.

    I watched some of the 1983-89 episodes on You Tube and enjoyed them very much. Unfortunately there are many major gaps missing from what's been posted on YT, and some of those missing periods were very good.

    I liked the Dakota Smith storyline, and I personally enjoyed watching Nancy Addison Altman let her hair down to play a common gal in the person of Sarah Jane Hillyer. The Dakota years (1985-88) were good, and that period of RH had James Wlcek (Ben Shelby/Shelley) and the handsome Brian McGovern (Chaz Saybrook) on it, which made me very happy!! :)

  8. My first post.

    The time slot change in October 1984 sealed RH's fate, and it is very unfortunate. Not to cast dispersions on "Loving", but that show never attained the numbers RH had garnered in its first few years on the air.

    In response to some earlier posts, the Charlotte Greer storyline was one of the best ones to come out of 1983. Judith Chapman did an excellent job as the mysterious actress who turned into a grade-A nutjob--and her verbal catfight with Rae Woodard was classic. 1983 was a year that saw so many changes take place on RH. Labine and Mayer returned sometime around March 1983, in which Frank Ryan returned to the canvas after a long absence. The focus went back to the Ryan's after a year in which most of the attention was on the Kirkland family and Rae Woodard. Despite their efforts, Labine and Mayer were fired again by ABC, and Pat Falken Smith took over the headwriting reigns in late 1983. By this time, the Ryan's were lost in the shuffle again as the storylines concentrated on Jill Coleridge's half-sister Maggie Shelby and her mother, Bess, and Siobhan Ryan's struggle with holding on to Joe Novak (now played by Michael Hennessy) while being romantically involved with fellow police officer Bill Hyde. One of the high points of 1983 was the addition of Felicity La Fortune as the bubbly, feisty Leigh Kirkland. She and Jack Fenelli had a romance that looked promising until the arrival of Sydney Price, who threw a wrench into their relationship.

    Now that we can be certain that SoapNet will never show anything RH after 1981, keep in mind that post-1981 were also good for RH. And one of the highlights of the Tom King/Millee Taggart period (1985-87) was the return of Ilene Kristen as Delia in September 1986.

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